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rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Ginette Reno posted:

I honestly don't care at all who the Pens draw since I don't think they're favored against the Rangers or Panthers. Bring on whoever and maybe I'll get pleasantly surprised by the Pens hulking out of their torpor.

I think Panthers if only because instead of getting ground down and losing 3-1/4-1/5-2 it could be 7-4 or 6-4 which is way more entertaining. If the Pens can get into a track meet style series with the Panthers they at least have a chance. A huge (missing) part to the Penguins and Sullivan's 'system' right now is odd man rushes. When they can create them (like against Toronto for example) that's when the Pens can look really good. 3rd man high teams that move as 5 man units really well like the Rangers and Islanders (different stylistically of course) is when the Pens really struggle because they can't not make some just bone headed bad mistakes.

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rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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The Pens are either getting in the tank or going full Chicago.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Malkin is maybe replaceable by committee. Letang is not. The Pens D core is already a dysfunctional unbalanced mess and losing Letang makes it so much worse. Or course I think it's significantly more likely they move Pettersson than Dumoulin....which is only going to exacerbate the problem *unless* they're getting a unicorn player as a replacement.

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Mar 26, 2007

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DJExile posted:

If yall really wanna see some dire poo poo, Flyers/Sens is at 7PM eastern

Some twisted sick poo poo to suggest this.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Send that message boys

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Mar 26, 2007

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Good Soldier Svejk posted:

I think part of it is is all the shitheads are trying to use their 5 minutes to shine so coach remembers how big and tough they are come playoff time

Trying to earn that Tom Wilson shithead roster spot

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Get Arlo White

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Mar 26, 2007

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Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Lots of injured goalies going into the playoffs this year. Really bringing the goalie chaos to a frenzy

Speaking of, Jarry's foot must be loving shattered I don't think he's even practiced yet

I remember hearing or seeing it was broken which would be end of his season for sure.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Cartoon Man posted:

Lol NY/Pitt game still going on and I get to go to bed instead. Enjoy the cocaine helicopter jump double overtime, kinda glad the Caps are playing Florida right now.

It's dope and I'm rolling around like a mad lad

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Mar 26, 2007

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What a freaking bonkers insane game.

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Mar 26, 2007

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WeaponX posted:

loving sucks but on the bright side the 2nd period for NYR was scary bad and then they turned around and put up an amazing fight for 4 more periods. Shesty is going to go Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan for the rest of this series after that ordeal. Not worried.

It's extremely difficult to imagine him playing even better and the sustainability even less. He was excellent though and all he needs to do is outlast the Pens goalie. Which fortunately was up to standard tonight..

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Mar 26, 2007

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Also change the thread title to 'Spicy Pork and Broccoli'

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Mar 26, 2007

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Ginette Reno posted:

Someone was gonna have to die for a penalty to be called during OT

There was definitely stuff that could have been called, but I don't really remember anything super egregious even in terms of interference or tired players getting tripped. That said with all that energy expenditure Thursday's game going to be interesting.

The ice time breakdown on both teams makes for interesting reading too. Letang logged nearly 47 minutes, but the rest of the ice time is pretty evenly spread out over the rest of the D core though Pettersson the low man with 26:30. On New York's side Fox and Miller were 44:30 with Trouba coming in at 42:30. Being down Lindgren though definitely messes with that some. At 5s it seems like Sullivan spread the time amongst his top 3 lines a bit more with Rakell being in concussion land and Boyle being a disaster on the ice. Hope maybe O'Conner can get in for Thursday if only to provide some fresh legs....though I guess with Rakell banished to the dark someone has to come into the lineup and I don't see Boyle coming out. Also think Carter looked questionable to start, but when E Rod got on that line it looked much better.

The Dirty Burger posted:

Kaapo Kakko needs to keep playing like he did tonight too, even though Chytil’s goal got disallowed that was a great move using his size to take the puck to the net Kreider style

Their line played some of the least too with 20 minutes each and I'm glad of it, 'cause they looked dangerous every time they were out there. Spreadsheet mostly says otherwise, but outside of Panarin/Strome/Copp everyone got murdered on the spreadsheet so :shrug: .

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Mar 26, 2007

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https://twitter.com/bubbagumpino/status/1521701441240502274

Spicy pork and broccoli lets go

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Mar 26, 2007

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OldSenileGuy posted:

https://twitter.com/ajcastigliaa/status/1521875726433234944?s=21&t=Igv40erZbD0IkLPupwyrLQ

I just keep watching it over and over and getting angrier and angrier this is a good use of my time 🙃

Bob Errey being dumb and wrong is the least shocking thing about the entire play, challenge, and eventual call.

Kinda wonder if DeSmith majorly tweaked or was concussed on the collision tbh.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Strangest thing of the Rangers game was how gassed the Rangers ended up looking compared to the Pens come the OT periods. I guess maybe the old men know to save something in the tank or just have less raw speed but more endurance or something.

Letang for instance looked like he could have gone another 3 and been smiling

I think it was a combination of line rotation where Sullivan was able to spread minutes very effectively between his top 3 lines and his system + the execution absolutely ground the Rangers down. Be interested to see what the zone time splits looked like 'cause the Pens forced the Rangers to play a ton in their own zone after the first.

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Mar 26, 2007

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OldSenileGuy posted:

Every bracket I see has the winner of NYR/PIT playing the winner of BOS/CAR. Is that correct no matter what? Do they not re-seed to start the second round anymore?

That would be correct. It's the Metro side of the bracket.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Dumo finished with solid fancy stats go figure.

I don't disagree that Pettersson gets less abused, but I don't think he makes the insanely lovely pinches and decisions that Matheson makes either. But Matheson can't play with Marino either so like unless you're bringing a lefty to play with him you're up the creek anyways.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Cause he can skate so well and join the rush and that's great when you can dominate in leagues not the NHL.

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Mar 26, 2007

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One of Sullivan' strategies is definitely have the winger fly the zone to push the defense back and use either a home run pass or cross corner dump even if it's icing to exert pressure on the defense and force those defenders to sprint constantly and be too tired to take the rest of their o zone deployments and get a different matchup that might be less good at scoring.

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Mar 26, 2007

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The Pens defensive system and plan is predicated on doing everything possible to not be in the defensive zone ever. It doesn't seem to me that Gallant has adjusted to Sullivan's tweaks which has definitely allowed the Pens to take New York apart better.


That said creating tons of decent/good chances and sometimes even bunches of super good chances the finish has not been there. If the Penguins can find any goals 5v5 from not Sid's line look out... assuming also they aren't having to play their 3rd string.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Ginette Reno posted:

Domingue was fine tonight despite giving up 5. Kept them in long enough to potentially win the game. They just couldn't score.

It's a real tall ask to keep running him out there against Shesterkin, though. That said their biggest issues so far have been depth scoring and dealing with the Rangers' powerplay.

He was fine. Not good. With Jarry or DeSmith I think that game might be going to overtime. Which I think Domingue being in goal hurts the PK a ton. Missing Dumo last night and having to run out Boyle vs the departed ZAR all contributing factors into the PK too. They need to get Boyle out of the lineup really really really badly. I don't think they will, but they really do. He's a disaster. Rakell being hot brained means we're back to the exact same mess of a 2nd line that didn't score at all 5v5 during the regular season as well.

It still irritates me that Sullivan had like 12 games to experiment with line combos and d pairings and even playing different players (Riikola or POJ) and instead just like bump Rust down move someone else up and that was it. Super annoying to me.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Good Soldier Svejk posted:

I hope Jarry's bionic foot gets into working order here soon

Kevlar skate boot and pain killing shots lets go :(

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Mar 26, 2007

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Krime posted:

Jarry on the ice today.

Doubt he will play in the next 2 but it is at least encouraging.

If he looks remotely ok I bet Sullivan gambles on him if the Pens are down 2 games to 1.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Ugly win, but they all count. So woo!

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Mar 26, 2007

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Another Bill posted:

Look out into the world at every other public and private institution or business and the corruptions that exist within them. Then ask yourself why you think professional sport is any different.

Because I'm not watching Serie B or C or A

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Mar 26, 2007

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Rangers were credited with 2 total high danger chances all night and only 1 5v5. That's unbelievably bad.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Jovial Cow posted:

Vatrano was definitely the guy who was supposed to be covering the point shooter on at least two of the penguins goals so not necessarily undeserved.

One went off of him and he got a stick to Friedman's which is why that puck stayed so low and found a hole.

Another...thing I guess I noticed is that Corsi wasn't super lopsided. 52-46. Of those corsi events though the Rangers were only able to turn 22 of them into shots. Fenwick count was a flat 30. Comparatively Pittsburgh were credited with 36 shots for and 45 Fenwick count. Just a weird thing. New York tried to throw rubber at the net, but nothing got through. Really seems like Sullivan and the staff has completely cracked New Yorks system and made their adjustments to the defensive zone and it really showed tonight. Could also be a lotta score effects too.

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Mar 26, 2007

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El Gallinero Gros posted:

Fleury has been crap. .906 sv pct, 3.04 GAA, -1 GSAA. Dudes been giving up huge juicy rebounds.

And St.Louis are good enough to make Minnesota pay for it.

So the exact same goalie he's been for 90% of his career?

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Mar 26, 2007

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Trouba was literally called for elbowing, in the exact same manner, Guentzel like 2 minutes into the game. He was definitely hunting tonight.

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Mar 26, 2007

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https://twitter.com/PensInsideScoop/status/1524741560813957121

gently caress you Trouba. gently caress you New York Rangers. gently caress you NHL.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Levitate posted:

guess I need to find a better video of this than one still screen and one video that barely shows it

looks like he did get his arm out there a bit so not great

on the other hand if it turns the series around for the rangers then "playoff hockey" it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL-CelREvkA

Pens broadcast so heads up on that.

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Mar 26, 2007

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I"m biased as hell but that 2nd angle sure looks like elbow to head and then collision not that it should matter.

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poo poo rear end loving league.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Just like a high stick the intent doesn't/shouldn't matter and he hit the player with his elbow in the head and caused an injury that meant the player missed the rest of the game.

It's stupid bullshit that causes injuries and long term brain damage that the league doesn't give a poo poo because lol forever at 'player safety'

Edit: it just seems insane to me that you have to be in control of your stick at all times no if ands or buts (other than the follow through of a shot) but flailing elbow gets a pass

rex rabidorum vires fucked around with this message at 17:31 on May 12, 2022

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WeaponX posted:

Ok sure but they aren’t going to implement that rule change in the middle of the playoffs. You are also never going to convince the league to put the onus on the hitter when “keep your head up” is still the prevailing thought.

I am aware. That doesn't make it suck any less and should have been the league addressed ages ago, but never will.

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DJExile posted:

https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/1524896028931104769?s=21&t=iAINO_cUgLJEEtJobzq7Wg

I can hear the Good Charlotte blasting in the background of this picture oh my god lmao

Teemu going to absolutely dumpster you for that music choice. And he'll be right.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Someone tell Mathew's it's too late to trade for Giroux

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Fix is in refs suck. NHL gifting the Rangers wins for gambling profits. Google Ron Paul and idk gold standard or something.

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Mar 26, 2007

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Krime posted:

LoL

Pens are cooked. They won't hold a lead even if they get one.

Go enjoy your game 7

Pens are fine. Louis Domingue is below AHL average. Can't win with goaltending making GBS threads away 1.5 goals a game while Shesterkin stops 2+.

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