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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Homeless Friend posted:euros love warring eachother for mostly no benefit, they love that crap Can confirm
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Meow Tse-tung posted:I would say thats true, but this is the first time I can remember where all the firefights and drone bombings are being posted all over reddit in HD daily and it definitely has worked its way into every online space I can think of. That feels kind of unique and horrifying to me. Seems like the big budget sequel to Syria to me.
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Nov 4, 2022 09:07
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Homeless Friend posted:the ap did one of those long rear end news articles on Bucha. lotta dead bodies pictured ofc. Yeah, basically standard occupation stuff. Shooting everyone with a gun. Dubious raids. Who told the Ukrainians where to drop the mortar? This whole war thing seems like a bad idea.
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Nov 4, 2022 13:54
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Azathoth posted:I've never heard a story of it, but there's gotta be at least a few. It wouldn't surprise me if the media were just not running stories about them, or literally saving them for some propaganda push later. Lmao. My fight* for Russia against Western Imperialism (hardcover, 39$) *peeling potatoes 250km east of Novosibirsk.
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Nov 4, 2022 14:03
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Actually, now that I think of it. Wasn't there a story about Syrian volunteers that Turkey didn't let through or something along that line?
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Nov 4, 2022 14:06
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KomradeX posted:Hey is there any good articles about why Tim Synder sucks as a hisorian that can't be misconstrued as Pro-Stalinist. My Ukrianian friend was telling me he was watching some lecture he gave on YouTube and I told him I wouldn't trust a word he says cause hes ridiculously biased and I'd like to follow it up with a proper source https://booksandideas.net/Timothy-Snyder-and-his-Critics.html This one maybe? Though, on reflection that is maybe not what you're looking for, and some of those critics also seem to be loons. genericnick has issued a correction as of 14:59 on Nov 4, 2022 |
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Nov 4, 2022 14:41
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Wheeee posted:going to buy a shipyard in ukraine for less than the cost of a two bedroom crackhouse in vancouver War ends after mysterious buyer is revealed as Gazprom
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Nov 4, 2022 18:53
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HashtagGirlboss posted:I thought so too until Crowsbeak happened Isn't that basically always the LaRouchians?
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Nov 4, 2022 18:55
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Azathoth posted:Calling LaRouchites red/brown is one of those things that's broadly accurate but gets less true the more you dig down, because the reality of their beliefs are infinitely dumber and stranger than a basic red/brown or strasserite ideology. Do they even have believes? They always seemed the opest of ops to me.
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Nov 4, 2022 19:14
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sum posted:You think that the country that spends nearly a trillion dollars a year on its military can't afford to refurbish its own mothballed inventory? Would they even help if you don't send maintenance formations along with them?
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Nov 5, 2022 00:33
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samogonka posted:uh, i really wonder what they try to achieve with such statements There are different audiences to cater to and blood and soil rhetoric is what the ultar nats and the Daily Mail want to hear. IS produced flashy snuff movies for the diabetic Saudi millionaires that funded them and to show their possible recruits that they were the biggest psychos in the gang war. All while the US was desperate to find any barely presentable rebels to dump infinite weapons on.
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Nov 5, 2022 14:03
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Majorian posted:I'm guessing mass extermination of ethnic Russians in Ukraine is probably not logistically feasible either, so... I mean we're starting from the assumption that they take Crimea
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Nov 5, 2022 20:28
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Majorian posted:Because retaking Crimea seems so self-evidently strategically unfeasible from my perspective. The Russian government and media claim they're pursuing a lot of crazy maximalist goals themselves; that doesn't mean they actually, truly believe they can achieve those goals. Actually, now that you mention it. What maximalist goal is the Russian government claiming? I remember the initial war goals, but what are they saying now?
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Nov 5, 2022 22:37
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https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1589228312777424897#m I think we had that article, but the pull quote gives it another spin. The Euros are griping behind closed doors and we should pretend we're seeking a settlement to make them shut up as compared to Joe Biden is looking for an off ramp. Might both be true though.
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Nov 6, 2022 14:22
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Majorian posted:Russia being able to successfully integrate all of the regions it's officially annexed looks like it could be a tall order going forward. Beyond that, I don't think the Kremlin has dropped its stated war aim of "demilitarizing" Ukraine, and that also probably isn't going to be feasible anytime soon. Eh. Successfully integrating the regions it took doesn't seem like that tall of an order? If I had to come up with any kind of end the most likely one is that the frontiers are just going to stay in one place with neither Ukraine nor Russia having the ability/political will for new offensive operations. And everything on the Russian side is probably going to more or less get integrated. Like that's just what a ceasefire but no actual settlement looks like after a decade and I don't think the Russians have claimed a lot more territory than they hold already. Certainly seems more likely than Ukraine taking Crimea.
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Nov 6, 2022 14:57
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speng31b posted:
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Nov 6, 2022 17:49
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Majorian posted:Right but that frontier is going to cut through a lot of what Russia has officially annexed. They haven't had full control over any of the four oblasts since the beginning of October, and I doubt they ever in the foreseeable future. I mean, we're basically talking about one successful offensive before everything grinds to a halt. Doesn't seem completely outlandish to me  .
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Nov 6, 2022 18:28
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Majorian posted:Outlandish, no - just not super-duper likely, IMO, with the seasonal window closing so rapidly. Wait, I thought we were talking about end results not what's going to happen before the mud freezes.
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Nov 6, 2022 20:14
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speng31b posted:well, you have to keep in mind it's the US saying this stuff, you'd need a crystal ball to guess what Zelenskyy and the Ukrainian government think is realistic. It's not really clear to me what the offer is supposed to be. Russia gives up territory it still controls, stops its attacks on infrastructure and gets???? Frosted Flake posted:Canada has the only kilted Irish Regiment in the world, and the Irish Regiment wears the caubeen (same headdress as the Ulster Defence Regiment), just to give you an idea. Lmao. History is cool. genericnick has issued a correction as of 18:14 on Nov 7, 2022 |
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Nov 7, 2022 18:09
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Frosted Flake posted:As with all things, looking at the literature on Georgia leads to people being more candid than they are about Ukraine. Specifically there is a good deal of anger that Georgia negotiated an end to the war: Blatant lying by the Atlantic Council. But I really appreciate how they just write it down.
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Nov 7, 2022 18:26
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Frosted Flake posted:Remember that these Kiev Ukrainian groups immediately sent people to Ukraine to rewrite their constitution, decollectivize agriculture and God knows what else and Freeland still complained that the Ukrainians in Ukraine were not true Ukrainians. I would not be shocked if they also cranked up the pressure at home. They had a free hand to attempt to reshape Ukraine abroad and it still has not succeeded, though 2014 propelled them to new heights. I mean at least NATO general secretary is not a real job, as far as I can tell.
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Nov 7, 2022 23:50
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Seatbelts posted:Here is my nuclear hot take: That's a good day's work in the bad take factory. Well done. How is the US rebuilding the Flint water supply coming along, by the way?
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Nov 8, 2022 00:07
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Ardennes posted:It honestly looks like civilians, I don't think it particularly puts the situation in a great light. Ah, but didn't you know. All the civilians in Kherson are actually Russian soldiers in disguise. Majorian posted:https://twitter.com/MargoGontar/status/1588665959656484864 Little poo poo whose upper class parents were kids when Communism fell: Let me tell you about my lived experience under Stalin. PawParole posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/uamemesforces/status/1589647639678971906 Not even sure that was the plan. When they rolled over Georgia they didn't really leave any occupation troops behind after Saakashvily hosed off. Neither did they set up a new government. V. Illych L. posted:this was the last major world conflict i recall where norwegian mainstream news covered it in a reasonably enlightening way. it was pretty clear from norwegian state broadcaster coverage that this was a border where there'd been tensions for a while, but the georgians had decided to settle the issue by military force and that ended up backfiring spectacularly Our state broadcaster still has like one older guy who actually spent a lot of time in Ukraine and tends to push back against the worst bullshit, but once he retires there'll be no unbroken brains left in the whole organization.
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Nov 8, 2022 09:33
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Did I miss the rations talk? Have some Russian propaganda. Not a big fan of Orwell, but his journal from Catalonia was interesting and he mentioned their best propaganda guy was permanently and loudly lying about the quality of their rations.
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Nov 8, 2022 16:35
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Majorian posted:Perhaps, but that was probably never on the table anyway. It only takes one member-state to vote "no" to Ukraine's accession because they don't want to risk going to war with Russia. France and Germany were quietly against it in 2008, when the GWB administration first pushed for it, to say nothing of countries like Turkey. Yeah, but that's libbrain thinking. The only thing of value here is the US going to war with Russia. Which they can do if they wanted and conversely no piece of paper, signed with all due ritual, is going to force them to do it. And the whole point of this affair is to have someone else die fighting the Russians.
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Nov 8, 2022 21:01
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Majorian posted:Right but I'm saying if Ukraine had kept its nukes past the Lisbon Treaty's deadline, Russia would have invaded and taken its own nukes back (since, according to the treaty, they were legally Russia's). And no government would have stuck its neck out for Ukraine in that case; it would literally be a rogue nuclear state. Yeah, Russia was basically a US colony under Yeltsin. Not difficult how that would have turned out. Unless the world ends of course.
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Nov 8, 2022 21:27
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https://twitter.com/marina0swald/status/1590081626129977345#m
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Nov 9, 2022 15:41
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:FWIW Russia should have viewed the Dnieper as a natural boundary once it became clear that they were having to settle for a lot less than they initially planned, so this decision should have been made a long time ago. You weren't wrong that it would be the smart thing to do, Russia just didn't do it. Are they going to settle though? Or are they going to do another dumbass offensive once they find coats for all the conscripts?
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Nov 9, 2022 17:08
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Zodium posted:the general theme of productive forces receding behind national boundaries is the consolidation of local power in the system by catabolism of absolute system power. as a whole, each directly involved capitalist polity has become weaker in absolute terms via destruction of capital and depletion of military forces. at the same time, the western bourgeoisie wins because ukraine's national assets and the ukrainian working class have been sold to finance the defense. the russian ruling class wins because it has nationalized industries and grown fat on energy crisis money. the ukrainian ruling class wins because they are gorging themselves on nato money and weapons. absolute losers are the larger system of Capital and the working classes writ large, the relative winners are the uninvolved. imo there are no absolute winners except China. Is even China an absolute winner? Europe is now much more under the US thump compared to if the crisis had blown up over the Taiwan straight. Honestly without the war I'd expect everything to end up the same, but the EU China relations explode later and Viennese Universites simulate weird semi conductors for Chinese companies a few years longer.
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Nov 10, 2022 00:05
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dk2m posted:that must include civilians too? were there really 115k russian/DLPR troops? Didn't they claim to have evacuated all civilians?
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Nov 10, 2022 00:58
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Zodium posted:they absolutely are. the point is precisely that it didn't blow up over Taiwan because the process is not random or stochastic such that it could have gone either way. it blew up over Ukraine because the system phase is making inter-capitalist conflict inevitable, but China isn't capitalist and so only indirectly subject to these forces. they already have all the productive forces they need behind national boundaries. what the CPC needs to maintain stability is an uncontested source of energy and raw materials, and it's difficult to imagine a bigger prize in this regard than Russia, while stability for the western bourgeoisie requires them to break either China or Russia. Blowing up over Taiwan would have been worse for them obviously but the war starting two years later might have been even better.
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Nov 10, 2022 01:22
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stephenthinkpad posted:Yeah I listen to a politic podcast by a couple unnamed Chinese officials from the intelligence branch and foreign service branch . They have said a few times one lesson the Chinese all agreed on is that there is no scenario of invading the outer islands. The only proper way is start a full scaled war on the main taiwan island. Why though? Just blockade it.
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Nov 10, 2022 10:07
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Vox Nihili posted:Russia's war aim from the start has been to annex Ukraine at least up through Kyiv and the war is ongoing, no one has really "settled" for anything, least of all Russia which is actively mobilizing a huge number of men Share your Putin PMs with the class
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Nov 10, 2022 13:08
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Vox Nihili posted:[Russia sent an enormous column right for
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Nov 10, 2022 13:09
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Homeless Friend posted:We need to have understanding and compassion. Vox Nihili read some super retarded post for a few months and this is his chance for catharsis. How about we let the man vent. Bad news about what kind of posts he's going to have to read for next few months though
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Nov 10, 2022 13:29
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Ardennes posted:Also we don’t know the west did or did not demand anything because no one has the clearance level, including probably FF. So it is a completely moot conversation. Time for FF to go all War Thunder imo quote:War Thunder Player Leaks Classified Military Tank Documents Again]War Thunder Player Leaks Classified Military Documents... Again
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Nov 10, 2022 17:08
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Azathoth posted:The only explanation that makes sense to me is that they actually thought it would be a short, contained war where they would take a bunch of territory initially, which they did, and then sit at the gates of Kyiv while Zelensky and the Ukrainian populace collectively poop themselves and quickly sue for peace on favorable terms. In that scenario, Russia walks away with not just their prewar goals completed, but Ukraine and everyone else who would think of playing hardball suitably chasened and ready to negotiate favorable terms for whatever Russia wants the next time they come knocking. Yeah, I agree with this. Russia seems to have been looking for the one weird trick that will get it an advantageous political settlement all the way back since they first started massing troops. Did they really expect the West would set Europe's economy on fire and risk everything coming down so Ukraine could walk away from Minsk2? After we all had signed up to it once? Did they expect to have to fight a total war against Ukraine? Of course not, in and out in two weeks tops, Zelensky eats his tie and and the tap water in Crimea flows again. After that failed, Zelensky owns no ties, and Ukraine walked away from negotiations they tried to: Hold a gun to their economic life-line's head instead of their capital with the Black Sea ports, sit back and let them run into artillery until they get tired of it, successively make the offered deal worse by formally annexing regions, and now attacking electrical infrastructure while talking up their enormous mobilized forces that will arrive any day now. Frosted Flake posted:
Also this. I'd like the Kremlin to be destabilized and a reinvigorated communist party come out in front, but it's not going to happen. It's gonna be the psychos. Majorian posted:Good! Wonder who's the mark since they wrote in the WP that peace talks would be for European consumption.
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Nov 11, 2022 10:50
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stephenthinkpad posted:I like this theory. It explains why Putin's full scale mobilization was so late. Not sure backing out is even the right term for it. The Russians seemed happy to kick the can down the road. After all Minsk2 was never implemented, the Ukrainian armed forces got NATO training and other support, Crimea's water supply was cut off and the separatists were still getting shelled. On the plus side they had NS2 progressing - which would have allowed them to significantly up the economic pressure- and a reasonable expectation that the anti-Russian coalition would fall apart again, as happened with the orange gang. But then it did fall apart and the deescalation faction was if anything more belligerent, their closest friends were tried for treason, the US accelerated arms shipments, Germany dragged its feet with NS2 and once they complained the EU started slapping on sanctions. There was really no way to pretend that they weren't looking at the total collapse of their Ukraine policy. So why not flip the table? Doesn't mean they expected to get the USSR reunited, but the outcome of doing nothing also seemed quite bad from a Russian perspective. And just from watching their behavior they still seem to think they can press the "apply more pressure" button and get "better settlement" out.
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Nov 11, 2022 15:02
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But also none of that poo poo really affects Russia's ability to wage war in any critical sense. Sure they're not winning, but is there any way for Ukraine to make them accept a loss?
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Nov 11, 2022 16:53
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OctaMurk posted:I dont think so but if neither side has the ability or will to achieve a decisive result buy also doesnt want to make peace, it can just become a frozen conflict wherever they reach an equilibrium. Maybe rockets and artillery will keep flying over the border and there will still be fighting but not as much -- like how Donbas was before the invasion Yeah, but what does that look like in the end? Big Libanon instead of Big Isreal?
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Nov 11, 2022 17:18
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