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The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

Me telling myself to watch all the horror movies.

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The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Shrecknet posted:

who is a non-horror director who you'd like to see take on a horror project? Spielberg released two all-timers in a row with Duel and Jaws, then retreated to family fare and only toe-dipped with War of the World's later. Would love to see the King of Blocking take on a Werewolf movie

A Lynne Ramsay horror would slaughter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjY9kf7TuUU

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

Origami Dali posted:

What's are the best scenes from a horror movie that take place in a public restroom?

I just rewatched Body Bags last week and this very small creepy scare stood out, so it's some bad gross graffiti but it sets a great tone for the rest of the story.


This scene from Scream 2 lives in my mind whenever I use the toilet at the cinema.


But the story told in Candyman just absolutely terrified me as a young kid, I'd say I shat myself - but that would mean I'd have to run to the toilet, and I'm staying the gently caress away.


BrownPepper posted:

What's the best horror film by a director who is mostly known for working outside of the genre. The Exorcist is the easy answer, but I'm sure there are a lot of interesting picks I'm too dumb to think of. Alien I think would count.

Kathryn Bigelow with Near Dark.

The Hausu Usher fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Jul 3, 2023

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

Hollismason posted:

Its too bad that RTOLD 2 is such a decline in quality compared to the first.

Whilst I agree on the drop in quality, I regret sleeping on the two subsequent sequels for so long. They're great in their own ways.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

Phy posted:

I always find the Warrens as depicted in the Conjuring to be a Little Much. Like, we get it, guys, you love eachother and God very much, let's get back to the spookies, yeah?

I was into it, even the Elvis song, until the third film. They brought the story too close to them, so it didn't bounce off a cool haunting and just stagnated. Agree that they suck in real life.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Chiming in to say I also enjoyed it, well loving done.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

CapnAndy posted:

Did not like Under the Skin. Honestly, I kept having Skinamarink flashbacks. Movies where nobody has a name, nobody has a goal there's no stakes, and it's mostly static shots with droning background noise clearly scare some people, but I guess I just didn't have whatever childhood experience makes that sort of thing freak you out. Spent most of my time wondering why the aliens wouldn't put the woman into service as a sex worker, she'd have single men who wouldn't be missed literally applying to her instead of going out and having to hunt.

I'm confused, she literally was having men approach her all throughout the movie - that's what it was about. It's saying something about gender expectations/gender roles, sex, humanity, butchering, the world and the universe, etc - it's kinda interesting if you just pay attention enough to notice what is happening (and in the case of this film, it's a lot).

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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I watched the Mimic sequels to prepare my mind and body for the coming month. The straight-to-DVD era allowed a goofy indie charm that is all but replaced by a kind of rote efficiency.

2 is about the best friend from the first film, now a teacher in a run-down elementary school, and her entire character seems to be based off her telling a story of a bad date from the original film. Her life is now full of bad dates, and it's a kind of weird romance between her and the cockroach man. Some fun faces pop up in supporting roles.

3 is Rear Window. Yep, one of the kids who nearly died in the pandemic described in the first film is a bubble boy who takes photos of his neighbours. Amanda Plummer and Lance Henrikson pop up.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

Biff Rockgroin posted:

How do you guys usually decide what you're going to watch for October?

I usually just set up everything I haven't watched in front of my TV and then randomly pick from there.

I tried to specifically plan each movie out one year, but it didn't feel as fun, and I like to have friends over and let them choose so they feel like they're involved.

I'm into watching horrors I haven't seen before. I feel like I can watch every decent horror movie ever made, like an idiot. So I have sub-genre lists I work off of and usually just watch the top-rated film in each list (according to Letterboxd), unless I got a copy of a film, in which case I'll watch that. The Spook-a-doodle Challenge has added another little twist each year.

My lists have become pretty eclectic, and I have moments of chucking an old favourite on to wash the taste out every now and again.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

Ellen Ripley, Laurie Strode, Annie Wilkes.

What's some of your most influential women characters (or performances) in horror?

Do you think a strong female character should mean a film is recognised as a benefit to women representation in horror, or it's a cop out and a film should have related plot/themes, or even that a woman writer/director is essential? This is just for conversation, would love to hear some thoughts.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

The best thing about the Halloween reboots was it probably made a world tour viable for John Carpenter to gig with his music, and I got to see him twice.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Erin M. Fiasco posted:

I think that when it comes to "strong women" there's a tendency for people to go archetypal and lazy and make The Kickass One, which is something especially egregious in horror which can be the genre of the marginalized and mistreated. Horror can be extremely feminine as a genre itself - me and a lot of my friends love slashers, Clive Barker movies and Re-Animator, and more because the use of symbolism and frank depiction of violence and assault can be safe, unique ways to engage with things that scare or interest us. It's a complicated discussion, but I think most people who are especially hard on horror don't stop to consider that element. And my lesbian friends especially don't mind seeing some 80s boobs and blood every week. :)

A good female character has to have depth and agency. It's as simple as that.

The Kickass One became a lazy trope, joining Final Girls and Scream Queens, or as I believe Barbara Crampton said, (horribly misquoting, here) "you mean to say your lead actor in your favourite films". Not that that means I don't enjoy any of those tropes a lot of the time, it's just exhausting when a copy of a copy of a copy character archetype appears without an understanding of why it exists or why it was ever engaging. I know that I am personally pissed off whenever working class character tropes are rolled out, I did my dissertation on representations of the working class in horror, and it's a slither of the exposure women have had. Assuming this is a safe space to just spew out some thoughts without editing (after a few beers).

Not sure why I'm going off on a tangent here, considering I want to talk about positive things, but maybe my first big exposure to Kickass Women in horror was Buffy. I think Joss Whedon is an instance where a lot of people realised men known for writing strong women doesn't equal allyship (hopefully most of us Buffy OG's figured that sooner), but then does that mean there should now be a debate of how much of a positive influence the character of Buffy the Vampire Slayer was to women in horror? What about a strong performance under horrible circumstances, Tippi Hedren in The Birds or Shelley Duvall in The Shining, they delivered truly legendary efforts that were net positives for the Horror genre, but would it be right to point at those films to say they are positive examples of women in horror?

I think pointing out cool, fun and under-rated actors or roles is good - but my original post was trying to get a hold on where the starting point for a kind of pantheon of women in horror would be. Not that ranking them matters, but does anyone think The Shining is a better example than, say, We're All Going to the World's Fair or Messiah of Evil? Would a strong performance or role mean just as much as a different film that was written/directed by a woman without that element? Blood Diner! Slumber Party Massacre!

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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I think most V/H/S efforts after the first film have been massive steps down, much less cerebral and less off-the-cuff weird approaches. It's become a kind of inside baseball horror thing for horror fans, not really my bag. 85 was fine, meh.

I did look at the credits to see if Weird Al Yankovich sang that title song, though. He should sue!

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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WeaponX posted:

You are wilddddd if you think Safe Haven is a step down

Tho I will concede I’ve been chasing that high from seeing the first one, it felt so new and cool. Have seen about 500 anthologies since then lol

There are segments that are fine, sure. Your second sentence is much more what I meant to say.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Nightmare on Elm Street and I Think You Should Leave? This thread is right in my Q zone!

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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PKMN Trainer Red is my new Best Poster.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

I have to share it whenever tv censorship comes up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCcKBcZzGdA

This is what happens when you find a stranger in the alps.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Gripweed posted:

I watched Jeepers Creepers last night and liked it so I was looking into the franchise to see if it was worth watching the sequels, and jesus christ. I had a vague sense that the guy behind the first movie had been metooed or something, but jesus christ. And they just let him keep making movies. Apparently he was protected professionally by Francis Ford Coppola.

Don't watch more but check out the Unsolved Mysteries story that the Jeepers Creepers opening literally just copies wholesale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Xn-R91Ys4

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Basebf555 posted:

The first act is really well done too, very tense. Where they see him toss the body, then circle back and Long goes down the pipe, all that is good.

Watch the first few minutes, dangit.

The Hausu Usher posted:

Don't watch more but check out the Unsolved Mysteries story that the Jeepers Creepers opening literally just copies wholesale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Xn-R91Ys4

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Gyro Zeppeli posted:

I'll say this much for Exorcist: Believer, of course it was DGG, because I don't think I've enjoyed a movie less the more I think about it like this since Halloween Ends.

Someone stop that man.

There is so little actually going for Exorcist: Believer, it's hard to even understand how they could make a film so blasé. They could pretty much do anything in the world and this is what they came up with?

Rotten.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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I was thinking while watching the disappointment that is Exorcist Believer; I actually wouldn’t have minded it so much if they just remade it with modern sensibilities updated. Even a shot for shot would have given us a chance to hold the original and the remake in a hand each and just ask “Do we want to watch the one that legitimately hurt people, or the cash-in that hits all the same moments?”.

If someone remade something like Rosemarys Baby using this ethos, that’d be interesting.

I much prefer the Suspiria approach, obviously. Maybe I have just went temporarily insane from watching a David Gordon Green movie.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Gyro Zeppeli posted:

I've finally watched every Phantasm movie. That series goes some loving ways. Definitely watch the first 2, the last 3 are under your own concern if you wanna get waist deep in that madness.

Nobody can accuse Don Coscarelli of not doubling the gently caress down on his weird ideas, at least.

Coscarelli's autobiography 'True Indie' is pretty cool, I had a nice time listening to his voice on audiobook.

I kinda knew his career trajectory, but it's nuts that he was literally making a feature film when he was 18 years old and taking meetings with big studios with his dad beside him.

He tells some really great Phantasm stories, too.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMk9y72DAiE

This Dick Miller scene (and the bit directly after it) from Evil Toons made me like the movie.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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computer angel posted:

Does anyone get legitimately scared by horror movies anymore? I try to set the correct atmosphere, dark room, no distractions, alone, yet I still feel I'm chasing the dragon. When I was a teenager I watched Event Horizon and it haunted me for weeks, same with Silent Hill, couldn't shower with my eyes closed type thing. Those were good times.

The Medium is the one that got me turning on the lights before going to the bathroom this October.

Why doesn't Art kill a bunch of right-wingers? I'd tune in for that. The next great slasher phase adopts the "don't be a bastard in power" morality tale instead of "Don't have pre-marital sex, drink booze or do drugs".

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Punkin Spunkin posted:

finished VHS 1 and VHS 2 and man these just represent the absolute lamest impulses in horror. how do so many otherwise creative people make something so obnoxious and tedious? why does it feel like every single one so far was written and directed by eli roth lmao

like the best one so far might be A Ride in the Park? and that's not that great anyway. it's hard to believe these get worse when the first one was already such garbage. it's such a great and easy conceit for a series and all these segments come out mostly samey and lame. like everyone just submitted their film student projects.
Time for V/H/S: Viral...maybe...I'm gonna keep hoping I get a segment that's great and doesn't just feel like a video you watch before a horror maze at Knotts Scary Farm.

The first VHS has some ups and downs, but at least in 2012 it felt fresh, weird and dangerous. It felt, to me anyway, like a kind of a proto-Scumbag left with a new morality tale (all men are trash, which is true) and wasn't too timid or scared to go full out horror fantasy. This was in a post-horror kind of landscape where a lot of movies seemed to be apologetic for being what they were, a lot of horror had winks and nods, excuses, tongues in cheek (if it wasn't a cash cow remake or just lovely torture porn, ahem, Eli Roth). It might be hard to remember what the landscape of horror was like in the early-2010's, but outside of a couple gems, it mainly sucked. Cabin in the Woods kind of summed it up and felt like a call to arms to let's get nuts.

VHS was just unapologetic about doing weird Horror poo poo and I really clicked with it. I think it has a chapter in the evolution of horror, but, you maybe had to see it at the time? I'm probably due a rewatch in order to argue my case more clearly.

The sequels have creeped back to being "Fun©" and a little bit cynical, which is why I don't really like them as much.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Warm und Fuzzy posted:

You might be thinking of the early 00's, because the late 00's and early 10's were one of my favorite moments for horror. Netflix streaming had just become viable and I remember discovering tons of creative indie DV horror movies. Think Pontypool, Absentia, Yellowbrick Road, Grave Encounters, The Signal, House of the Devil, Lake Mungo. It was like the rulebook was thrown out and every movie was a unique experience.

I did say there were a few gems. I don't agree every new movie was a unique experience around then, but very much feel that has been the vibe since the mid 2010's. In my mind we broadly went from Paranormal Activity-a-likes, remakes and "extreme" horror to the horror resurgence we have now. And I love this era, it's much more my vibe.

I don't think I enjoyed a horror cinema release between The Descent and Kill List.

In saying that, not wanting to be too down on horror from around 2007-2012. Very open to more recommendations, I'll look for Absentia and Yellowbrick Road.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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I watched the season 5 premiere of Boulet Brother's Dragula yesterday and then immediately rewatched all of Season 2.

The talent in making sfx/horror costuming is cool but hell, that show just seeps of why I like horror and the queer community despite being a dumb hetero. I really like season 2 because it's so unpolished and unpredictable, plus being able to fast forward the silly bits (like the BB short film time-fillers) is nice on a rewatch. I remember watching it originally with my gf and the experience of becoming the biggest Biqtch Puddin fans was like a highlight of that year.



Episode 2 tonight so a pretty cool time to jump on. Shudder has cleaned up the production value a bunch, but it can still be wild.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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MacheteZombie posted:

I'm only an hour into the medium and holy poo poo this is good

Just wanna hear your reaction to the end, now.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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Guillermo del Toro was in Glasgow today, posted a picture outside the house of a Victorian murderess. Kind of mad seeing it.

If he’s doing some location scouting I’d kill to be on the crew of any film he does.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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I can’t find any details for when the next episode of Chucky is coming but it won’t be until next year? Fuuuuck. Really good season so far.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:

I hope the opposite and that more people speak out such that it becomes unrealistic to fire everyone. I am Spartacus up in this house. Rather than having a chilling effect.

:hmmyes:

Also agree cast/crew should walk if she’s not rehired and given a public apology.

Free Palestine

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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https://x.com/VeraDrew22/status/1727428597324083671?s=20

Is this claim about Eli Roth true? I don't see any articles.

Thanksgiving produced by Spyglass. I don't like his movies anyway, so won't see it.

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The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

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There was V/H/S chat a few weeks ago, specifically about old ones vs. newer ones.

A producer of 1 and 2 tweeted this thread today in response to a review that left her name out of the producers and how it's become Brad Miska's V/H/S series.

https://x.com/rox_anne_b/status/1730609383615136091?s=20

I really preferred the earlier ones.

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