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Here I'll post some feedback, hope you consider it good faith despite coming from a nefarious outsider with few gbs posts Nearly every mod of this subforum is garbage in their role and half of you seem like garbage human beings on top of that. If you want grace and understanding for mistakes, demonstrate some change for once. If you can't do that, get out of the way of better people. You've already got one alright mod in Solefald, you'll be able to find more.
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It is not abuse to call out a bad reaction on the part of a moderator. In the same way that mods need to not take criticism of their moderation practices personally, users need to stop taking it personally on their behalf. A singular mod did something lovely to a user. That has, apparently, been hashed out via PM, and the wronged user appears happy with the resolution. Everything since has been a completely unforced error on the part of other moderators of this subforum. This should not be a forums war. Stop trying to make it one.
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Jul 19, 2023 18:59
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Slugworth posted:You referenced retail managers - A good manager fires abusive customers. you can't fire customers I mean this analogy is dumb in general imo but that part also doesn't actually make any sense at all Also telling someone who had irl circumstances used as a cudgel against them and had that act explicitly okay'd by a mod that they have to not use mean words seems disingenuous to me Psycho Landlord fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jul 19, 2023 |
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Jul 19, 2023 19:31
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Fluffdaddy posted:I have absolutely fired customers that abuse my restaurant staff. I have literally taken their food give them their money back and told them to leave, in both full service and fast food. living my entire life thinking "firing" had a legal definition, guess not
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Jul 19, 2023 19:35
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Rust Martialis posted:What do you think permabans are? Absolutely not the same thing as terminating employment is what I think lol back to the feedback
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FilthyImp posted:Seems like a rather elegant way to show a fundamental disconnect between the parties yelling over each other here, no. do you actually think of posting here like a contracted agreement where you get paid honestly, is this how you perceive your existence on this website is this how the mods in question think, too? Might explain some poo poo.
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Jul 19, 2023 19:40
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Toxic Mental posted:Okay this legit just seems like calling for scalps for literally no reason though There's already precedent set by admins this month alone that if a mod stops actually doing any moderating they shouldn't be in the position, so as to avoid situations where someone might reach out to them with a major issue and not get a response and things like that I don't think it's relevant to The Current Bullshit but it's not just thirsting for mod scalps or whatever. Gene doesn't post. There's nothing wrong with asking a question about that.
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Jul 19, 2023 19:53
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Fluffdaddy posted:Gene posted in GBS 5 days ago. So the point is moot. Gene does post
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Jul 19, 2023 19:55
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tiaz posted:I don't mean to say you should ban anyone who has a harsh word for a mod, but this thread and SAD are pretty clearly overrun by bad faith actors, and tolerance towards them is harmful imo. Who are the bad faith actors? Genuinely, who are the bad faith actors? What is your line? Is this line shared by your moderators? Other posters in your threads? What criticism constitutes bad faith, for you all? What is the source of aggrievement? Gimme an example.
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Jul 19, 2023 20:00
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So should I assume the issue is that there actually aren't any examples bad faith actors posting here in this thread, and the aggrievement is because the perceived outsiders aren't showing sufficient deference and using customer service voices?
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Jul 19, 2023 20:20
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Dick Fontaine posted:probably a lot better for psychic stability to recontextualize that to “taking statements at face value.” there’s a lot less room to make up bizarre fantasies about other posters’ motivations that way
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Sisal Two-Step posted:Good job on steering the conversation away from mod feedback to whether or not harsh criticism is abusive which took us back to word filter moderation everyone. Working as intended I guess
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Jul 19, 2023 21:07
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I think it would be good if the GBS mods would post here, since the entire reason Fluff is doing this is giving them the ability to post their feelings with an actual third party handling moderation for a bit
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Jul 19, 2023 21:11
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Well I'm glad at least one gbs mod posted, even if it is about this dumb poo poo again
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Wendigee posted:Whoever is still upset. If you don't know what's going on you can just not post. Most recent attempt to get things centered in here already went to poo poo anyway.
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Karma Comedian posted:Thread rule 1: assume good faith. Okay so where did the random blast directed at no one in SAD come into this? That's the part that that caused the default assumption of hostility and redirection you had when Fluff first took over in here. I'll take you at face value in this case and provide feedback to that perception - there are major communication issues on display right now between GBS moderation and the people providing feedback to them, whatever that feedback may be
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lol cool
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Jose Valasquez posted:Who has been given an inappropriate av? they're taking issue with douche wolf's av because of the context of the convo efb
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And thus, GBS completes its metamorphosis into SAD2
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he can't, the nerds can only track the av if you buy it for yourself unless....
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Cousin Todd posted:I submit that it's possible to feel condescended to and for the other party to not have any intention of being condescending. Both can be valid. A fair point. I don't think there's any world where "hth" to someone asking you a direct question isn't intentionally condescending though.
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ArchRanger posted:I'd rather a mod hit someone for using a slur or bigoted language and then apologize later if it turns out that it was a bad call than let stuff slip past. Getting probed isn't the end of the world. I'm staying out of slurchat because I am a person that has zero place in it but one of the other broad points of contention here is that there seems to be a some sort of geas that prevents certain mods from doing the bolded part when it really would just be the simple fix, and that's bad
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Jul 20, 2023 03:48
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lol the ADTRW thing was definitely not about you, no worries there
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Bad Purchase posted:none of those posts are agreeing with cousin todd that people were faking being gay, and stux getting a probe for trollishly egging it on is the universe's equilibrium state bro come on
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Endorph posted:didnt the star citizen thread dox a 16 year old in a wheelchair Not the GBS thread, that happened when it was its own forum iirc
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Yeah I appreciate the mods and IKs who commented and of course its great to see some actual user communication going on in here but Seth is MIA and Karma pretty much just posted to say he wasn't mad while in the process of tilting at fluff. Mods are part of this ecosystem too folks, you got someone going out of their way to let you post earnestly for a bit without worrying about the power dynamic. Use it.
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vyelkin posted:I'm going to post on Seth's behalf to say that he and I were talking about these issues a day or two ago and he recognized during our conversation that he was starting to feel burned out and it was contributing to him getting annoyed more easily in situations like the recent feedback threads, which was not helping the situation. This was something he regretted so he decided to log off and take a break from the forums. I really strongly support mods taking breaks when they feel that sort of low-key burnout, but the side effect is it means he won't be around to comment on feedback for a little while. Good context and a good call then.
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Fluffdaddy posted:Going back but yes this is bad and we will be removing him for this Good call, that was extremely lovely and I was gonna type a big effort post about it lol Also def don't do the buttons for every OP thing whoever suggested upthread since that's just likely to encourage a pursuit of superstardom but I think the ik shuffle on thread reboot that was also mentioned is a legitimately good idea Psycho Landlord fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Jul 21, 2023 |
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The only reason anybody is pushing back against this is because of who it was done to. Nix posted badly, as usual for all the war threads on this site, but there was *nothing* truly objectionable about the post that was blanked and the fact that it was done so makes it look like a lovely gotcha (which is in character for GIR ime elsewhere on the forums) That's a garbage way to moderate even at the IK level and there is no doubt in my mind that if the same had been done to the people in here complaining by some DnD mod or whatever they'd be all about a de-IKing in SAD Quit with the forums wars and just look at poo poo objectively here, this thread was doin good
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Charles Bukowski posted:I don't have any lists you weirdos lmao you don't get to call people weird right now
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Toxic Mental posted:Wait that was KM too? holy cow Yeah the thing that prompted KM to autoban and then get HTQ outed as her alt was fallout from a no bullshit attempt to get Rich to give her extra forums power, which is very funny in retrospect. A fine saga.
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Toxic Mental posted:Yeah we can take it to Sagas to laugh at. repurpose the dumb lowtax donation tags into cool that guy donation tags
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:My favorite was getting caught in the Boxing Day superweapon deployment but no rap sheet entry for that which kinda sucks. 
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Dr. Cool Aids posted:first time for everything
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