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A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Wanderer posted:

I'll bring my Player's Handbook to Comic-Con! :v:

I thought you swore to avoid D&D like the plague.

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A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

greatn posted:

If just charging with everyone was such an effective tactic, why the hell didn't he do it in the first place?

Because Xykon tasked Redcloak to provide a distraction so he could get to the sapphire room. Redcloak was thinking in terms of keeping as many humans occupied as possible, rather than winning the battle by himself.

edit: vv Sup, wilde.

A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 16:36 on May 15, 2007

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Red_Mage posted:

Nothing is obscene compared to the Tarrasque
Now if the Tarrasque was psionic... terrifying.

Also, how did Belkar get in 5 attacks, ranger and barbarian, even with two weapon fighting feats wouldn't he cap out at 4 given his Estimated Character Level?

Well, if he has a base attack bonus of at least +11 and a dex on 19 (neither of which are unreasonable at this point), he has 2 iterative attacks with his main weapon, and 3 with his off hand weapon from the 2-weapon fighting feat chain (regular, improved, and greater.)

edit: Judging from the position of the "stab!"s, that seems to be exactly what's happening, assuming Belkar is right handed.


Dear god shoot me now. :suicide:

A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Jul 23, 2007

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
A wizard with no spells or magic items is a pretty pathetic thing. The best that he could have done is in fact what he actually did, get out of the way. The worst would be to either become a prisoner or hostage, or even worse some sort of undead spellcasting minion. Granted, it was fairly cowardly, but the dude didn't have many other reasonable or realistic options available to him.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

RentACop posted:

Random DnD second edition question:
Strength: 18/56 , What does that even mean?

The short answer, it was a bad dream and the best thing 3rd edition got rid of.

Longer answer, in editions before 3rd, monsters didn't generally have stats and statblocks were for PCs and really important humanoid NPCs. These stats generally fell between 3 and 18 (nothing new there). Higher than that was 19+ for everything but strength.

If you were a fighter, a vampire, or an ogre, and you had 18 strength, your strength score fell somewhere between 18/01 and 18/00 (d% shorthand for 100). While 18 strength meant 18 strength, 18/01 was better than 18, but 18/02 wasn't meaningfully better than 18/01. It wasn't until you hit 18/51 that you saw improved modifiers for strength vs. 18/01. Confused? There's a chart somewhere that can clear it up, but it was a lousy system and not really worth the effort of explaining.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
This is as good a point as any to have a cliffhangar. We're not in the middle of any action, and while the Order's future is up in the air, no one is directly in the crosshairs and Rich has completed the seige story-arc.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
It's nice to see reminders that Roy is a fighter with 18 int.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

greatn posted:

Dominate let's you experience whatever is happening to the subject right? He should mass dominate and pig out, go hog wild.

Not exactly. Dominate lets you know what the subject is experiencing, but it does not give direct sensory input. A lich would know "my minion is enjoying a meal" but not let the lich experience the flavor of that steak.


What the lich wants is Magic Jar, which puts his essence into the body of another being. For most liches, this is not a problem because Magic Jar is required for the creation of a phylactery. Xykon, however, is most likely screwed in that regard.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

nimby posted:

You're expecting a lot from a warrior who jumped onto an undead dragon to have a sword fight with the lich sorcerer that can destroy an army of paladins on his own.


The more important thing to remember, regarding killing Xykon: Who is going to destroy his phylactery? He can't die if Redcloak is alive and still on his side. If Redcloak destroys it off-panel, that'd be kinda lame, but if he was going to do it in the comic, he'd probably have done it by now.

In fairness, Roy had previously blown that lich up all by himself, and said lich hadn't yet demonstrated that he could single handedly kill an entire order of paladins.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
What the. DMs never screw over the bad guys. That elemental will attempt to perform to the reasonable letter of the command, if not the intent.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Brannock posted:

Wouldn't this mean Durkon is in the afterlife, and Vampire Durkon isn't actually Durkon anymore?

In D&D lore, it's often indicated that becoming undead prevents one from reaching the afterlife, meaning in most cases undead have souls. In some cases (especially liches) undead very explicitly have souls. Only the mindless types are represented as being soulless.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
I'm starting to think that Belkar might have had an alignment shift at some point.


He actually voluntarily stopped attacking. Heck, he bothered to notice that everyone else wasn't attacking, and his justification for jumping Durkon was fairly reasonable.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
That army isn't for the Order of the Stick, It's for Xykon, whom last anyone knew had an army of goblins.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
Additionally, Tarquin knows the narrative. Good things never happen for the evil overlord when he sends his entire army after the heroes. ESPECIALLY when those heroes are at their darkest hour.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
The only thing I liked about 4e was the "unaligned" option. I hope that comes back alongside the 9 point alignment chart.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Kajeesus posted:

Xykon could seize the gate and cast the ritual, find out it doesn't do what he wants, and then have a badass throwdown with Redcloak. Regardless of outcome, the Dark One finds out it doesn't do what he wants, either. Obviously the narrative issue here is that it'd take a lot of tension out of the story, but there's plenty of room for a new thread, such as a race to re-seal the rifts because poo poo gets unstable.

I hope that a Xykon/Redcloak throwdown starts with the following line:

"Xykon, when is the last time you gained a level?"

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
I wonder if you could collect 25,000gp for bringing Haley's dad in alive, and then another 25,000 for killing him upon delivery.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Sir Kodiak posted:

Making a weird misinterpretation of plain language is not "creativity." He'd wonder what the gently caress they were talking about then have them executed for killing a prisoner.

Take a close look at the wanted poster.

Maybe some sort of Heisenbergian superpositon would qualify for the double payout?

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Sir Kodiak posted:

Are you referring to the separate entries for "Dead" and "Alive"? Because those are both contextually conditional upon turning him over in those conditions, which are mutually exclusive. If you kill him before transferring custody, you're turning him over dead. If you kill him after transferring custody, you're not turning him over dead, you're just killing a prisoner.


That would be neither dead nor alive, therefore qualifying you for nothing ;)

You are really, really bad at thinking like a PC.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Eifert Posting posted:

I DO find gazebo's hideous.

That WOULD explain why Miko attacked the darkness.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Manic_Misanthrope posted:

Yeah, the whole thing with just framing Haley's dad out of the blue for back-chatting him just serves to remind people that as much as he claims to be a super genius, he's at the end of it all: Nale's father.

More importantly, he's not as smart as Roy.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Ursine Asylum posted:

Don't invoke what can't be uninvoked.

Don't you mean "don't invoke that which cannot be abjured"?

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Leper Colon V posted:

I want this. I want this so that Roy can realize that Belkar was genuinely reforming, that he was wishing for the little guy to die, and to have a crisis about what that means about him.

I think you're selling Roy short. During this mini-siege in the desert, Roy has consistently made Belkar's survival his first priority, with the survival of the rest of the group following close behind. Roy isn't the same person he was when he abandoned Elan, and what happened earlier in the pyramid was Roy's grief speaking.

Roy doesn't like Belkar, but he isn't a heartless taskmaster.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
Dinosaurs have feathers, damnit!

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

jng2058 posted:

Let's not forget that, aside from rules reasons we know Durkon's gone evil from the way he acts. He murdered a helpless opponent and, based on the look on his face, he enjoyed it. Like Tarquin or Malack, Durkon is loyal to his friends and willing to help save the world. But also like them, he's now a remorseless killer who enjoys the suffering of others. That's evil, no mater how you slice it.

Finishing off someone who is an active combatant and is trying to kill your friends isn't murdering a helpless opponent. So it's okay to to try to kill someone up until they go unconscious? Did you think that the dark elf mage was going to suddenly stop trying to kill the OotS once he regained consciousness?

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Kajeesus posted:

Given that he's aware of the Dashing Swordsman, he's almost certainly got some obscure overpowered Prestige class.

3.5e melee specialist prestiges can hope to be barely adequate at best.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
This thread is dildos.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Regalingualius posted:

Then wonder why he's not accepting the Resurrection from the other Cleric or scroll they'd try to use on him. And their sudden downshift in alignment for deceiving a friend that badly, even if he had become a monster.

You're loving kidding.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
Warning: this thread is canon.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
I went to Citadel Cavitus and all I got was this T-Shirt and crippling negative levels.

ZnCu posted:

I actually ran this. When the Modrons finally caught up to them, the PCs had to dump their entire shipment in the Elemental Plane of Water. :(

Great Wheel cosmology: Validated.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Combed Thunderclap posted:

and sold their soul to fiends.

Leased. He leased his soul to fiends.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Raenir Salazar posted:

Obviously I could be wrong and RC's speech was foreshadowing Durkon not being Durkon, but we'll find out I guess over the next book.

I really do believe that this is going to eventually end up being the case.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

DoctorTristan posted:

Colour-coded American continent.

Sporting Bolivian flag colors, no less.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Sefer posted:

What are Arcadia and Bytopia even for, then?

People who think doing good while staying organized is a nice bonus, and people who think being organized about being good is important, but not the most important thing, respectively.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
No war but class war! After that we'll get to the Blood War.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Angela Christine posted:

If he hadn't snagged on the boat, would Belkar have died? As a high level ranger/barbarian at full health, he can fall quite a long way, can't he?

It probably wouldn't kill him, but it would get him off the airship and out of the way for a good long while.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Cthulhuchan posted:

Gods are notably short-sighted, even when they play a long game. Unless specified otherwise, any god should be able to scry the future to some degree, with high accuracy, whenever they want. It seems that they often don't.

My personal theory is that those that could DO, at least at first, but that poo poo gets mad dull and they give up on it eventually. More fun to role with the punches.

The reason why gods don't look into their own or each other's futures more is because once their future is determined, it becomes a fact. It cannot be escaped or altered. Prophecy is a bitch in mythology, but at least the mortals have a chance of twisting it to their benefit. Thor is going to be poisoned by Jormungand, he will take nine steps, and he, along with most of the Aesir, will die. If some prophet says the Horse god is going to eat a bowl of peanuts tomorrow at 9 AM, then Horse god had best resign himself to that fact, allergies or no.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Pope Guilty posted:

The Dracula Tapes

Nice stealth pun.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Who What Now posted:

Belkar doesn't buy Durkula's obvious ploy and neither do I. :colbert:

He must have either dumped a bunch of points in sense motive and/or finally did something useful to the party and picked up undead as one of his preferred enemies.

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A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

jng2058 posted:

So that was Bozzak a page ago. Guess he figured out from what Geoff told him that Tinkertown was a likely stop and got himself and Crystal (and maybe a few more rogues) teleported there to wait in ambush.

The big question now is whether Crystal's undead or if she's some kind of semi-sentient flesh golem that Grubwiggler put together. Given the stitch marks, I'm guessing the latter, but it could go either way.


Gotta be a flesh golem. That explains the stitches and the megaton punch.

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