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Daztek posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpalZlE4FC8 Its taken a while, but community management is finally doing some damage control. Having your community eat itself isn't a good look. Although they've spent most of the time on something that is supposedly coming in the next patch, despite it being somewhere between 1st and 2nd pass. The Bengal and UI stuff doesn't look anywhere close to done. I feel like this style of ATV will get old in another 12 months when the citizens figure out that what is shown is either repeats of the upcoming patch, or stuff that is shown once and never shown again. What's the over/under that the Bengal footage is part of the Gamescom sizzle reel. Slow panning shots of a hand animated ship docking and a fighter launch. How any of that poo poo is supposed to work seamlessly is anyone's guess. They certainly didn't show the docking procedure or the fighter being bussed to the launch runway. I'm predicting more immersion animations in our future. Not to mention that the carrier is devoid of people, that's got to be a killer problem to solve.
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Tokamak posted:Someone spotted a whiteboard with ships on it: Interesting list. So they are doing a 850 jump or something. Preying on wanna be whales for a small lux space cruiser. Not sure what the superlative is for "blatant cash grab" but this shitheap is approaching new levels of complete sleaziness. So many smoking guns creating so much haze it is hard to zero in on any of it anymore. loving incredible.
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Daztek posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpalZlE4FC8  spotted at 05:30
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ManofManyAliases posted:this post is incredibly boring. I mean, you would know, being the king of boring.
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Fat Shat Sings posted:
Uh-oh. SA infiltrator and/or leaker revealed!
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He is isnt just blinking, hes morsing guys! Unfortunatly i cant read morse, so stay safe foundry ghost..
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Tippis posted:Uh-oh. SA infiltrator and/or leaker revealed! Break out the torches, pitchforks and the paywall.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Interesting list. So they are doing a 850 jump or something. Preying on wanna be whales for a small lux space cruiser. No, the 85x is the small fighter/racer that comes with the 600 JUMP. Similar to the Merlin that comes with the Constellation. It's already been sold, but I guess it will probably be sold again.
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Tippis posted:Uh-oh. SA infiltrator and/or leaker revealed! Time for OPERATION Platinum account required to view this message
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Lol, what other goonsign can be spotted by the eagle eyed?
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Tokamak posted:Its taken a while, but community management is finally doing some damage control. Having your community eat itself isn't a good look. I agree. Today's ATV was more substantive than the most-- one of their best. We saw much never before revealed and heard open discussions of some of the challenges still ahead. Like Austin and Germany, the Foundry offices were modestly appointed, as befits a company that treats their backers' capital as a gift not some divine right or inexhaustible resource. The tour offered the starkest possible contrast to the Space Door sporting Restoration Hardware wonderland that is CIG LA. (And  at that jump cut to the break room coffee machine. It was the perfect punchline, "No, no unjustifiably expensive coffee machine here folks.")Whatever minor faults the episode might have, it was a step in a better direction. It felt like it valued backers time and money far more than their usual fare. CIG would be wise to continue in this direction, letting each office offer a more substantive update once a month. It sounds like that's the plan. It could go a long way towards rebuilding some of the confidence they've lost and the good will they've eroded. They need both now more than ever and today's episode seemed like an acknowledgement of that. To the extent that suggests they actually can course-correct every once in awhile, it's a positive step for them.
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I am both proud and saddened that an international call will probably be placed once Sandi realizes is firmly Something Awful content. Some poor guy is gonna have his ghost picture tore down.
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radd posted:No, the 85x is the small fighter/racer that comes with the 600 JUMP. Similar to the Merlin that comes with the Constellation. Thanks, I stand corrected. So if sold before they can't do LTI on this snub ship. Probaby will do a 3-4 year insurance deal on this bastard.
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Was sold as part of the 600 JUMP. They could do an LTI sale on just the snub fighter, it hasn't been sold on its own before. I would expect more smaller LTI sales for a number of reasons: Further kill off the grey market, Low barrier to incentivise existing or new users to increase their pledges (it's only wafer thin), Even encouraging ship churn via store credit forces agreement to the new ToS at checkout, so it's another way to get positive confirmation of acceptance of the new ToS for the existing userbase and reduces their legal and refund exposure.
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G0RF posted:I agree. I lol'ed when they spoke about the bengal, and that they had no idea how to put it into the game. I don't know of another game that crafts an entire ship (complete down to its toilets) as a playable space instead of boxing it into a moving level (which ironically it is) and without making every drat room available for exploration. Who want's to visit Sandi's wank pod? Honesty is the best policy.
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Well if you wanted video evidence that some CIG insiders read the thread and are trying to give us a shout out, there you go. Make sure to download the video just in case someone decides to take it down or upload a version of the vid with that segment edited out.
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Bengal is 3 months out. Just in time for CitizenCon Sale.
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radd posted:Was sold as part of the 600 JUMP. That dragonfly sale worked, relatively speaking. They have been having anemic sales since people realize they've been buying a never ending stream of concepts, but selling cheap LTI tokens for all the concepts everyone else has already bought generated a better than usual sale. Question is if they had to transition to a gimmick LTI token sale to generate cash, how many times can they do that before those sales don't work anymore, and by extension how much money is out there for them to get if more and more people are getting disillusioned every day?
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radd posted:Was sold as part of the 600 JUMP. Agreed. Hell, I'm impressed you were able to parse that poo poo off of some whiteboard. Usually they have pictures of poo. I just feel grief that I felt I was somewhat up on their concept ship sales. Apparently I'm way behind. Another snub fighter which will be another LTI cash cow. Comedy gold.
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Fat Shat Sings posted:That dragonfly sale worked, relatively speaking. They have been having anemic sales since people realize they've been buying a never ending stream of concepts, but selling cheap LTI tokens for all the concepts everyone else has already bought generated a better than usual sale. Once people have several cheap LTI tokens, they can offer everything that has previously been sold again during a special sale (Citizencon, Crowdfunding anniversary, etc), and everyone can get the ship of their dreams with LTI by buying a cross chassis upgrade for their LTI token ship. Those that may not be willing to buy a $300+ ship with 2/3/4 year insurance, may be willing to spend $270+ to upgrade a $30 LTI token to get the same ship with LTI.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Agreed. Hell, I'm impressed you were able to parse that poo poo off of some whiteboard. Usually they have pictures of poo. I can't take any credit for the whiteboard info, I just happened to know what the 85x was.
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Fat Shat Sings posted:
A rational question where most of us would say "none." But we are living in a vortex of complete stupidity that is void of reason. Christ, I call my wife and kids "commando" and utter "I feel grief" when I need to let my dogs out. Sometimes I walk out of my house with a baseball cap and nothing else on while I jet around the yard. This fiasco has given me a new appreciation of cats, has broken my sarcasm meter and has elevated this poo poo heap of a forum into a positive light. Roberts has done the impossible.
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If SC still has 100 ultra whales. They might be tempted to sell 100 Bagel Carrier for 10k each. Keep in mind: There is always more (stupidity) - and it's always worse. That's not P2W. No Sir, since it will never make it into the game.
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Tank Boy Ken posted:If SC still has 100 ultra whales. They might be tempted to sell 100 Bagel Carrier for 10k each. Keep in mind: There is always more (stupidity) - and it's always worse. That's not P2W. No Sir, since it will never make it into the game. The challenge with that is it goes against established information (not that a change is out of the question), which is that a Destroyer (such as the Javelin which has been sold) is the largest ship that is not persistent (i.e. it disappears from the universe when the player is logged out). Persistent ships are always in the universe, so if you don't have a guild with some members online 24/7 to defend it, then someone else can waltz in and steal it. They also cannot be insured at all. No one is going to spend lots of money on a ship that they can lose so easily. So, either the larger ships will not be sold, or the existing information will have to be revisited.
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RattiRatto posted:It only works if you have the fidelity GRUBBY HANDS Don't think grabby hands ever got as far as a server. Imagine the difficulty of keeping every client informed when a commando puts his grabby hands on your butt never mind all the crazy physics mayhem when someone tries to grab a crate that has a commando hiding inside. It was just some dev loving around in an editor like all of the features they tease to fans then quietly forget about. Sad day for shitizens hoping to molest their friends with grabby hands.
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Over 1 million Citizens, less than 1 bug being reported per hour now. Game is great. EXPECTED RESULT Could un-focus from the control by backing away or using another control to un-focus. I expected that the head do not follow the ship's mouvement. When loadiung the Hangar character should just be standing without invisible weapon. Hornet on pad, so I can enter it After calling the ship The shields should be completely operative. Third person either tracks character model or displays character model. The freelancer should stay at ground level from beginning. To be able to use the terminals to spawn a ship. Several others standing around so I am pretty sure this was happening to others as well Be able to, within a reasonable amount of time, access my ship. Screen does not shake. EVA missions should be work without issues leaving the game should be possible with the reset keys Calling Freelancer allow the hangar. Original state of the vessel can resist produced by pressing a button. Missing arms to appear again in the menu. Modification on Port Olisar should funtionieren. When interacting with the Chat UI ship controls should be disconnected from the mouse etc. Weapons should not fire upon click when engaged with manipulation of the chat UI. No gear cycling. 4 M6A laser cannons aim normally. gun should've just shot straight , some recoil is to be expected but this was pushing my ship back in space and was unable to keep target in sights very erratic put on flight suit ship on deck Every command MUST BE REGISTERED CORRECTLY and at their appropriate times. No crimestat rank for killing pirates that show up as hostile, and no crimestat rank given in non-monitored space to have the hornet to spawning and i could get in with out troble and not have to fly in to space to EVA in to the ship it gos back to normal and i get in. and it flys properly Spawn ship on pad.
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radd posted:The challenge with that is it goes against established information (not that a change is out of the question), which is that a Destroyer (such as the Javelin which has been sold) is the largest ship that is not persistent (i.e. it disappears from the universe when the player is logged out). Yeah. So if they sell it, it would naturally come with LTI. And be able to dock safely. I mean the other stuff is from before they actually worked on some mechanics. Considering the scope change, they had to refactor their insurance and persistence pipelines. The Bagel won't disappear when the player logs out, it just be in a quantum state (and thus unattackable), or some other bullshit. "Just" selling a 100 Bagels will net them 1 million. It's just a question wether they have anyone left in their community with enough money (or the option to mortgage even more) to afford an "investment" of 10k $ into a single 3d model.
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Tank Boy Ken posted:Yeah. So if they sell it, it would naturally come with LTI. And be able to dock safely. I mean the other stuff is from before they actually worked on some mechanics. Considering the scope change, they had to refactor their insurance and persistence pipelines. The Bagel won't disappear when the player logs out, it just be in a quantum state (and thus unattackable), or some other bullshit. Theres guys 30k in, do you think they cant shell out another 10 to show everyone else how superior they are? I mean, if you studied hard, and got a job, and worked hard, you could easily do this too! Its your own fault you fail so hard in life that you cant afford 10k dollar pixelships.
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Tank Boy Ken posted:Yeah. So if they sell it, it would naturally come with LTI. And be able to dock safely. I mean the other stuff is from before they actually worked on some mechanics. Considering the scope change, they had to refactor their insurance and persistence pipelines. The Bagel won't disappear when the player logs out, it just be in a quantum state (and thus unattackable), or some other bullshit. Or, they will sell them all to existing backers who convert their current pledges to store credit to buy, and they make nothing. Their best chance to monetise new and existing backers is to keep the delta small, and to continue to convert x year insurance ships to LTI based on tokens and upgrades, along with the established price rises as time goes on. So if a backer has a $200 ship that has 3 year insurance, and that ship goes on sale again for $240, along with or shortly after a $30 LTI token sale, then the original ship can be effectively converted to LTI for an additional $40. Squeezing out incremental upgrades like this won't net them a huge sale profit, but will continue the influx of cash to an extent.
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Sandi, please implement "would you like to have fries with that?" mechanic into the cash shop. I project it will increase revenue by a total 15%, if you run the numbers. You're welcome. This is free marketing consultation you severely require.
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Colostomy Bag posted:A rational question where most of us would say "none." But we are living in a vortex of complete stupidity that is void of reason. Christ, I call my wife and kids "commando" and utter "I feel grief" when I need to let my dogs out. Sometimes I walk out of my house with a baseball cap and nothing else on while I jet around the yard. Sometimes I say 'u OK commandos?' to my dogs when I come downstairs in the morning alright that's my SC story thanks.
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AP posted:Over 1 million Citizens, less than 1 bug being reported per hour now. Game is great. There are no more bugs. All intended features. In space physics behave differently, you can pass trough doors
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Fat Shat Sings posted:I know we joke a lot but this is pretty blatant. I'm not sure how any backers still see this as a "BACKERS VERSUS GOONS" ulterior motives contest where Derek Smart somehow tries to sabotage the blahblah and we are complicit. Informative summary, thanks!
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boviscopophobic posted:A comparison of coffee machines: Remember when they had to have someone come train the staff in how to use that loving ridiculous espresso machine? Because it was intended to be used in a coffee shop by a proper barista, not by some fat bearded IT dudes who just want a caffeine hit to get them through another day of crunch. Given the turnover of staff I wonder if the coffee training is passed down from newbie to jaded veteran, or do they include it in orientation?
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skaboomizzy posted:Bottom line: Hey was once paid to fob off angry callers buddy. I lasted 3 months too!
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