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jonathan posted:What am I getting into with idrive ? Are parts available from ebay ? I would assume it would be computer modules etc that die ? Yeah it was computer parts. I didn't replace the. Myself but I know refurb parts are generally available, eBay and the like. I don't know how bad the programming is, but there are forums dedicated to bmw programming and I think at least some of that talk would be considered filez and thus verboten here. The only problems I had were related to nav, audio (the amp), and the screen, but I think the screen itself was fine it was an analog video signal getting corrupted somewhere in the electronics chain. If the car is cheap and you can do some work yourself (I was not so brave and am the least mechanically inclined person I know) a 'beater' 7er could be ten kinds of awesome.
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jonathan posted:It seems that the resale is not great because people are afraid of them, similar to the VW Phaeton. Any idea how the vehicle was on ice and snow ? Yes, people are afraid of out of warranty 7ers. I recall a guy I worked with having a $15,000 repair bill getting one up to snuff to sell (this was maybe 6 years ago). I have spent many miles in the 300, though always as a rental (yes, plenty with the hemi). No comparison. Motronic posted:The 7 series blows it away in every respect, including the price tag which is quite literally TRIPLE. Exactly. When I got my 750Li, it was a USED 750 or a NEW Genesis. The used 7 was the better car for the same money. Not even close actually, it was that much better. With the 7ers depreciating so fast even a 6-8 year old one can make a good beater car. Likely bulletproof drivetrain (engine, transmission) with everything else made of leaded crystal glass. jonathan posted:I'm interested in the 750Li because of the extra legroom in the back. Was my thought process exactly. Of course, I just downsized because 80% of the time it is just me by myself, and the 550 is a way more fun car to drive. For the other 20% of the time the people in the back seat can suck it and hang on tight around the bends.
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MrChips posted:The engine stops with one piston at or near TDC, then they inject fuel + fire the spark plug in that cylinder to get it going again. It works well, but BMW's system isn't what you'd call smooth, especially in the N55 for some reason. I would love to read more about this but I can't find anything on the bmw training material than can be found freely online. Anyone have a link or more nerdy stuff to read about this? I just thought it used the starter, which I assume is designed to last 37 or 49 months, depending on your warranty length.
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May 12, 2014 23:07
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sanchez posted:All this talk of 7's had me looking at ebay, holy poo poo depreciation is incredible on them. A 2013 750li that stickered for 105k with ~10k miles can be had for 70-75k now. That's $35,000 in lost value in 12 months. When I got mine it was 2.5 years old and sold for 42% of its original MSRP. Granted it had 32,000 miles but it was in great shape. A number of people have said that a CPO 7 series, kept through CPO warranty only (that's the catch) is the cheapest large luxury car you can own. Based on my calculations I think it cost me about $500 a month all said and done. Not bad for a six figure luxury boat. I'll have to drive my new 5er for twelve years to match that.
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May 15, 2014 21:30
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blk posted:Touring chat: Mrs Mango has an '08 E61. We bought it new and at the time it was at least theoretically possible to get a manual transmission. I don't know if there are any out there with a manual. Handling is fine, never tracked it or anything but understeer is minor and predictable. Good corner entry and turn in can keep it settled and composed. Remember it's an open diff system so power only moves around if a wheel gets braked. Full disclosure I have never seen snow in it and rarely rain so the AWD hasn't gotten much of a workout. For the E61 with N54 there are the typical n54 issues (HPFP, turbo waste gates, the need to walnut blast the valves at some point). Electrical can be troublesome. I think we are on our third nav system. We also had the shifter replaced, apparently a common failure with those. As for cost of ownership, it really hasn't been bad. Warranty was good and took care of a lot of stuff and our maintenance will be based on time and not miles since it's a low mileage car now. We have had a few wheel hubs fail and some normal wear parts but nothing extreme. Will have to figure out when to do the GOD DAMNED COOLING SYSTEM but that's the only looming thing. The E61 is great and would highly recommend one.
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Question about the GDCS: how proactively must it be replaced, and based on time or miles? I have an 08 E61 (535 wagon, first year with the n54), so it is six years old now but only has 45k miles. It's not leaking or having any issues at all, but if this thread is accurate I would expect the cooling system impeller to detonate itself randomly at any time. I am in no way mechanically inclined so I would talk to my local indie shop about the replacement, if wisdom here is to replace the system sooner rather than later. At least BMW warrantied the N54 for an extended time given all the issues it had.
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Jun 6, 2014 02:53
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Guinness posted:FWIW, one of the long-time BMW specialist shops in my area says that about 100k is the point when you should proactively replace the GDCS. They start giving people the heads up at about 80k but don't push it too hard until closer to 100k. Okay who here is an actual plastics engineer. If the issue is that the pump housing or impeller get brittle and break, why would that be miles based rather than time based? I suppose weekly replacement of all wear parts would ensure it is kept in good working order. I must say that it was nice having extended warranty but as soon as that's out the local place will be so much less expensive than dealer service and repair. Hilariously I just got new tires and for $20 the shop sold an unlimited year, 70,000 mile warranty which includes the rotation and balance as often as needed, and hazard coverage. As long as it's not a total scam it may be a decade before I pay for tires for that car. In other news, my other car has been at the bmw dealer for three days. So they can look at a problem with the goddamned rear view mirror (GDRVM). Seriously.
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Jun 6, 2014 06:25
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Cojawfee posted:Do what it wants or it will explode. The ceremony and sacrifice makes the magical blue coolant work. Make sure you use the right breed of chicken and three black candles. But yes, give it the specified fluid, tolerances are the product of German engineering and at least one slide rule.
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Jun 6, 2014 07:01
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Easychair Bootson posted:Good info, thanks. She doesn't do a lot of long highway trips, but the adaptive lighting sounds like it's worth looking into. I have the LED lights in my 5er and they are awesome. If sport package is too rough I think you can add dynamic dampers on the 4GC. That would give her adjustable settings and softness when needed.
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Jul 3, 2014 02:58
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Nait Sirhc posted:Don't listen to anyone who tells you that a 7-series is not the best pre-owned car ever because they are wrong and probably posting on recess from jelly school This is true, but I think the E65 has a few too many cylinders (if indeed it is the v12). I think those don't need just full synthetic at every service, but triple refined unicorn blood.
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Jul 8, 2014 05:29
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NitroSpazzz posted:Quick question since it's bugging me and I'm on my phone so looking it up is a pain in the rear end. E34 5 series, is it similar to the E30/36 3-series where you can bolt the M suspension goodies onto a non-M without problem? You must mean an M5 Ute. It has been done before, in the land down under.
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Jul 12, 2014 18:48
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Chemmy posted:And was repainted for no reason They really liked orange. Probably more than bondo blue green.
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Keyser S0ze posted:
I can confirm this, picked up a custom order '14 550i with most everything in April. It is actually fast enough that I can't imagine actually driving an M5. Part of my build was the DHP, which gives me both pretty firm when I want and soft when I have sleeping babies or elderly grandparents in the [strikethrough]trunk[/strikethrough] back
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Jul 21, 2014 05:44
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Any SoCal goons get into the LA session? I tried to get one the wait list but am not holding my breath.
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Aug 14, 2014 05:57
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Chemmy posted:Did you call the phone number? I'd try that combined with "I just bought a new BMW". I will do that. Might be nice to see how their five series performs at 9/10ths rather than mine, which is barely broken in. I assume they are doing 535s?
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Aug 14, 2014 06:15
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I have at least ten on my M-sport F10. Y'all don't forget to count your door sills and dead pedal. Dang, I may be missing a bunch now that I think of it...
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Aug 24, 2014 05:33
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chutwig posted:My wife and I ordered a 328d wagon, and I think I specced it to come with the adaptive suspension. I can't wait for our diesel station wagon to show up festooned with M badges. You must post more about that car both here and in the wagon thread. How did you spec it? In gory detail please.
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Well the extended warranty for the E61 has really paid off. About a year ago the nav system was replaced. Mrs Mango too it in a few days ago for a final check before warranty expired and they replaced the turbos (failed eyelash test), and AC compressor (and charged it fresh), and both front side CV Boots. Will start taking it to a local indie shop now that warranty is done. Looking forward to replacing the GDCS at 60k miles, but that might be a few year out with how much it gets driven (50k now). Any reason to do the GDCS at a number of years for a low mileage car?
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Scab Swap Fetish posted:what is GDCS? GOD DAMNED COOLING SYSTEM I guess that thread title was a while ago now. From what I understand the water pump impeller is made from the sort of plastic that gets brittle after many many heat cycles and it is recommended to replace the cooling system as a preventative maintenance task rather than having it blow up and require a new car as a result.
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What kind of service life should we expect out of replacement cooling systems? I get the idea of the all aluminum radiator, and aren't there redesigned pumps as well? Go people also move to electric fans when they do this? At this point I wonder if it makes sense to do it sooner rather than later since it is an 08 that was purchased in 2007, so it is just about seven years old. It only has like 47k miles, but maybe since it does lots of short trips it just needs to be done?
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ColdPie posted:Ah, late fall. When every BMW owner wonders wtf on their car broke before realizing it's 37 degrees outside. Whereas those of us in the southwest wonder when we might get one day of rain and if our wiper blades are somewhat or completely useless from cracking in the sun all summer long. Wait we don't do that we just drive. We know better than to go outside in the rain.
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Chemmy posted:I figured out how to program the garage door opener on my F30 I feel like a champion. As well you should. On my F10 it took six hours on the phone with a combination of BMW Genius, HomeLink tech support, and the company who made my garage door opener in 1997. After I literally made an appointment to have BMW replace the entire rear view mirror assembly I found a pdf document on the rear end end of the Internet that described a procedure that worked in about fifteen minutes. First world problems don't have nothing on BMW problems.
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Bovril Delight posted:Anyone here have a 6 series? There is going to be a lot more city rush hour driving in my future so I was looking at something to replace the TDI with. I'd still have the Miata for weekend drop top fun. The idea of a 2 door luxury barge is somewhat appealing but I wanted to get opinions if possible. Comedy option: Challenger Hellcat? Would actually be same money or cheaper depending on options. I think the previous generation 6er was more closely related to the 7 of that age than the 5 (I had an 08 750 and still have an 08 535). The current gen 6 is definitely closer to the 5 but they both share a ton with the 7 being the same platform. I test drove the 6 coupe, gran coupe, and 5 earlier this year and ordered the 5. The 6 was awesome but the gran coupe was hilariously small in the back and while the coupe was awesome I needed four doors. If you want something big and two door, cross shop the M4 if you want a roundel on the hood. Should not be much smaller than the 6 and is a hell of a car.
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POKEMAN SAM posted:I've joined the BMW bandwagon, who can teach me how to be a porcupine or however that joke goes? Merry Christmas. That is gorgeous.
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Brock Landers posted:BMW dealers are like other dealers. They have lot inventory that they want to move to avoid paying interest. If they can put you in one of the lot cars, they'd rather cut you a deal on those cars than cut you a deal on a car that doesn't even exist yet. If you're hell bent on custom ordering a BMW, well you're a captive audience so why would a dealer have to cut you a deal at all? Factory incentives non withstanding. That last part is not true at all. You can absolutely negotiate pricing on a custom order car. I think I got something like $500-700 over invoice before factory incentives on my custom order. You just have to be willing to call around and negotiate hard.
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I suppose I am crazy in calling every dealer within 300 miles when I am looking for a car. I get that it must be more difficult in smaller towns or where you would have to go really far to get to a competitive market. I think the guy in CA who started one of the BMW boards works as a part time salesperson for a small dealer and they let him sell custom order cars at a steep discount to anyone willing to pick it up at his dealer or pay for shipping from there once it comes in. His price is in part how I was able to get a dealer closer to me to do a screaming deal. Custom ordering was a cool experience but was also stressful in some ways and took a couple of months (and that was getting a dealer to literally hold production on an allocation so I could modify an existing order rather than wait for a new allocation time). I kind of hope more people realize a custom car order is possible and do it at least once. So many just look at what's on the lot and drive something off that day.
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Brock Landers posted:Does BMW still let you specify each individual option on a custom order car? Like, do you have to take the contents of an entire package just to get one option, or can you pick and choose. I know they used to let you break apart packages and fully customize the car but I wonder if they've stopped that. Most other makes let you "customize" but it really just amounts to ordering a car with a particular set of packages. And there are always restrictions like "feature X must have feature Y or package Z". The buying guides for the US are written more like you suggest, where there are packages and restrictions. That being said, I was able to get one option that wasn't even on the sheet, and got approval to break apart and remix some items (that I didn't end up doing, but by the time I got deep into it I kind of wanted to see if I could get the approval so I could tell others what to do and say). If you go full individual then I think you get more leeway, but it is a five figure proposition before you check any boxes. Basically to do non standard stuff you have to know what to ask for and get your dealer to escalate some tickets back and forth with the factory and some levels of approval. For me, I got four zone climate control in a 5 series (plug and play from the 7) and got approval to add the digital gauge cluster from the 6, but ended up deciding against those. Was a few extra weeks of approvals but I paid invoice minus discount for even the nonstandard options. I believe from a few European friends that it is still more a long options list and you don't have to go so much with packages like we do in the States.
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User Error posted:Sounds like extra weight. I checked the box and got the shades. Does that make me a bad person, or just someone who lives where it gets hot and even with a tint the shades can make a big difference when parking in the sun.
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rscott posted:Crosspostin' this but RIP E30 This right here is why we drive BMWs. It sucks that you got hit, but I am glad you are okay. I know someone who rolled a five series a few years ago, and the guys who rescued him said that most any other car would have been a death sentence in that accident. Drive safe everyone, and love your cars.
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BraveUlysses posted:what the gently caress is that giant green patch in the back seat floor? GDCS leak
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SuperDucky posted:Its also not blue. I bet every previous owner of that car thought it was fine to toss in generic green poo poo into the rad to top it off. That's how you know that it was a GDCS stain in that backseat floor.
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Seems like a good opportunity to complain to BMW NA and get things fixed properly.
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meatpimp posted:I'm thinking about urging dad to sell his 5k mile, launch edition (every possible option) E90 to get a new 'vette... Dooooooo iiiiiiitttttttttttt. I love all things bmw but the new Vette is amazing. I got to track the new stingray last summer and spent three days a few weeks ago staring at the tail end of a new Z06 convertible.
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Ludicro posted:So I did something rather dumb yesterday, in that I didn't properly secure my fuel cap after I'd filled up and drove about a mile before I realised. In that time a yellow engine warning light has appeared. Having googled about it looks like an improperly closed fuel cap will set off a warning light on both Mini's and BMWs, and it would be a heck of a coincidence if the engine developed a problem without any prior issues after this event. However, the information I've found is unclear on how long it takes for the light to go away once it realises there isn't a leak or anything. I had the same thing happen, only I went much more than one mile without securing it, I secured the cap and it went away pretty quickly, in fact it went away when I was on the way to take it in to the dealer since I still am under warranty. You are right in that there was no other detectable symptom other than the CEL being illuminated, at least in my experience.
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protmind posted:My 2011 750li has a weird trunk problem. Neither key fob will open the trunk now. I can use the release on the outside of the trunk to open it, and I can also use the release in the cabin as well. Just not the trunk button on either key fob. Anything I can try before I take it in to have someone look at it? The car is not giving be a low battery merge for the key. It's just out of warranty isn't it? My guess word be that a different relay is used from the remote fob receiver and the actual trunk lid button, and something went foo bar with the link between the fob receiver and the trunk mechanism. Given the location all this stuff is buried inside the vehicle maybe $700 to tear apart and fix. Edit: that or your preference for what the button does is changed. Check the menu for a setting related to what that button actually does on the fobs. iDrive, then vehicle settings maybe?
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Spiffness posted:Walnut blasting - do it at 60k you idiot or not that big of deal if the car runs fine? The advice I got from my local Indy BMW mechanic (highly recommended locally and has been around for thirty or forty years) recommended that we only do it in my 2008 535 (N54 engine) if there were any symptoms or reason to do it. The car runs great and he didn't recommend we do it. I don't think I am at 60k miles yet though, but getting close ish.
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blindjoe posted:Watch the power lift gate on e61's. Mine is breaking, and I think Mango's also broke at some point. This, a thousand times this. I am so glad we got ours fixed (we would have paid the $1500 if it came to that, but lucked out on the warranty gods) since we have another kid coming in a few months. Back to babies and strollers again at the house of mangoes. The lift gate was pretty much unusable while broken. The rear window was fine though, so we just used that for a week or so.
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POKEMAN SAM posted:I'm too much of a baby to risk hurting the car I am supposed to have that feature too but I do t think my car has it. The documentation and packages are woefully unclear. I have driver assistance with the camera but I don't have adaptive cruise control with stop and go, which I know adds more functionality.
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Motronic posted:Unless you do it this way (PDF warning): How much to put an E30 on a Space X rocket to the ISS?
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