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mr. mephistopheles posted:I sometimes wonder, even though I know the answer, if conservatives really believe their "liberals are the real racists" and "I'm not a racist" bullshit. Like, are they saying that to convince other people, or to convince themselves? I have never seen a liberal fall for the whole "I'm not a racist" thing, so I wonder who they think they are tricking with their "these laws aren't racist" winking to each other. Are they that dumb? Most of the racists in my experience know they are racist to some degree but don't care in a sort of self hating way. They can't accept racism being pointed out anywhere ever because it would force them to think about their own racist feelings which of course they don't want to do. Basically the mindset is that if you repeat a lie loud and fast enough it will become true and all the awful minorities will disappear and you won't feel your conscience nagging at you, because most of them aren't complete sociopaths. Liberals pointing out the truth get in the way of the fingers stuffed in ears screaming of 'I'M NOT RACIST I'M NOT RACIST I'M NOT RACIST.....' and then they yell 'NO YOU'RE THE REAL RACIST' to bully the liberals into shutting up. This is also the source of the idea that liberals are self satisfied and smug, because conservatives know the liberals are correct and can't stand it. The same goes for racism, sexism and homophobia, and all the laws related to them. They know gay marriage is morally correct but they can't stand the idea of those filthy degenerates being happy, nor can they stand the idea of filthy aborting sluts being happy, or lazy welfare blacks being happy. It's entirely said to convince themselves. icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Jan 19, 2014 |
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BJA posted:My favorite part of Martin Luther King Jr Day. Listening to the Republicans trying to claim him as one of theirs. You can concern troll and point out that he was somewhat sympathetic to communists, especially Cuba and North Vietnam. Alternatively you can point out that beloved conservative icon Jesse Helms ran a filibuster to prevent MLK Day from becoming a holiday under Reagan.
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comes along bort posted:After decades of decrying him as a commie pinko serial adulterer and plagiarist. Not just any serial adulterer either, a gay serial adulterer.
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Leofish posted:Has anyone come out and said the war being about slavery was just the north using the government to intervene on the free market rights of southern plantation owners, and if slavery really was bad, the market would sort it out because people would naturally boycott slave-owners and they'd be forced to adapt or go out of business? https://www.lewrockwell.com/ There's a pronounced white supremacist strain in hardcore anarcho-capitalist circles. Ron Paul, Murray Rothbard, Hans Herman Hoppe, Lew Rockwell all have unfortunate comments on record linking minorities with communism or statism or whatever. The rabbit hole goes quite deep. icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Feb 17, 2014 |
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Star Man posted:Huh. Notice the big fat north-south divide across both parties. whatever you do don't look into what happened to all those southern democrats during the 1970s!! probably they all just popped out of existence, replaced by woman-and-minority loving Republicans after the good people of the south saw the error of their ways unlike the craven northern liberals.
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Haha look at you, you think you can leave. There is no escape, the abyss will follow you wherever you go.
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Pththya-lyi posted:The mention of Greg Gutfeld a while back reminded me of Red Eye's response to Lena Dunham's "My First Time" ad and conservative "comedian" Steven Crowder's disgusting parody of it. The parody is especially upsetting to me because my first experience with it was when I watched my dad watching it. He loved it - laughed uproariously at it. When I called him out, he defended his enjoyment of the video and said that frivolous women should be mocked. Said it to me, his only daughter. Here you go, to cheer you up http://gawker.com/5991450/the-union...-prosecuted/all http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tIF70HsfpAg Show your dad this
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I dunno, I think a big part of why conservatives aren't funny is because of their ideological restrictions on acknowledging reality and requirement to fight the culture war, which was lost years ago and makes them unable to relate to anyone under the age of 35 outside of fundamentalist Christians. If you insist on operating in a bubble you can't relate to people outside of the bubble. Then add the fact that Republican economic ideology is opposed to the interests of 90% of the population, and it's easy to see why nobody thinks they're funny.
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Naga Warlord posted:I never quite understood how the Right reconciles its hatred for government - "centralization and bureaucracy" - with its fetishizing of state's rights. (Let me guess: they don't.) It's because federalism / states' rights throws a wrench in the workings of government and makes it more difficult for the government to do things. Essentially they're trying to sabotage it. That's part of it at least.
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I think it's hard to imagine that the GOP in its current state would hesitate to crack down on marijuana. This whole scenario is assuming they win in '16, so presumably they would not have a shortage of political capital or support. It may be popular with libertarians but for now at least the main conservative line is absolutely against it. Certainly the old white southern contingent of the base is not what I would call supportive of medical marijuana.
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Spaceman Future! posted:If the old white contingent was powerful enough to be courting then President Romney would be doing the cracking down. What votes does the GOP gain with this? What votes does the GOP gain with any of their policies? If they had enough political power to take the executive they would have the political power to crack down on marijuana.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:What is this even supposed to mean? It means Rush Limbaugh thinks he's entitled to the attention of women, and pointing out he treats them like poo poo is getting in the way of that god given right. Standard MRA thought.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:No I mean "allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream". What does that even mean? Mainstream what? I think it's just trying to attack liberal women in any way he can, so he just calls them ugly. In Rush Limbaugh's world I guess the uggos would be kept in the closet and not allowed out in public or something, but I wouldn't think too deeply about it beyond him being a fat sexist poo poo trying to attack liberals.
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They don't actually care about the joke being offensive, they're mad for the sole reason that they get called out on when making the same kind of offensive comment or joke. In fact, they fundamentally don't understand why people think offensive comments are offensive, which is the real cause for the anger. This is the entire problem, Rush Limbaugh fundamentally does not understand why anyone would be offended at him joking about those loving sluts, because to him it is completely unoffensive.
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BarkingSquirrel posted:Funny, when I moved to Tennessee all I had to do to register to vote was to sign a form that boiled down to "Yup, I live in this state and county. Sure do, I promise!". Its almost as if you have no idea what you're talking about. Almost. This seems to be pretty embarrassing for you. Did you forget the part where you wrote down your SSN or are you playing the game where you say "but an ID isn't the same as an SSN  "
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The usual conservative 'counter' to that is that the mexicans all have fake SSNs anyways, and the bureaucrats at the DMV are all too happy to give them fake IDs. They just pick the goalposts up and sprint, supported by lies the whole way. The only solution is to icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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joeburz posted:I honestly can't tell if he is just a really good troll or just so encased in this delusional fantasy world of his own fabrication. I can't listen to Limbaugh/Hannity/Levin without getting incoherently angry, but at least with my local talking head (Jay Weber in Milwaukee) I'm almost certain he knows he's lying. He's not totally immersed in the bubble, and so when he pulls out the lies his tone of voice shifts and betrays it. Like when saying the UN IPCC council on climate change are liberal loons but the discredited hack scientist who started a competing N(non-governmental)IPCC with generous donations from oil companies is just as scientific as they are, even more. It's blatantly obvious he's bullshitting and he doesn't care, he's just a cowardly prick with no intellectual scruples. icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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BiggerBoat posted:These posts sound like he's bragging and whining at the same time. Umberto Eco posted:When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers of Ur-Fascism must also be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Fascist governments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy. That quote will never stop being relevant
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mr. mephistopheles posted:That video makes it seem lik Beck thinks a race war is imminent and white people will be wiped out. This is news to you?
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Well, Captain Planet is no worse than christian indoctrination kids shows at least. Yeah Ted Turner is nuts but so is literally associated with the right
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agarjogger posted:Yeah, but like polls. To indicate that the members of this forum are not completely alone in the way we think about Republicans. We think quite harshly of them. Polls say they might win the Senate and will keep the House, just like they've been saying and people have been predicting for the last year. On a state level they're slowly but surely being locked out of government in the more liberal half of the states, and securing an iron grip on power in the conservative half. Cities are growing and slowly turning purple states blue. If you're expecting this war to be won anytime soon I think politics chat isn't really for you. This process has been happening for like 25 years, and it will probably be another decade till Reaganite conservatives are finally purged on a national level and in the states that matter. States like Mississippi or Wyoming or Alaska are hosed indefinitely. Things will get better slowly but don't expect this to happen quick.
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Wabbit posted:But just keep in mind: conservatives love life and liberals are a death cult. You know what, if all that was required to keep conservatives out of office forever were some human sacrifices and a contract with the devil I would have my pen ready to sign immediately
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Here's an article from The New Republic describing the political layout of my hometown Milwaukee. It's a long article but I can confirm it's 100% accurate. I grew up in those suburbs listening to Sykes and Belling via my parents. I was pretty surprised to see how bad it is compared to the rest of the country, though. http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118145/scott-walkers-toxic-racial-politics Some highlights quote:In early August of 2011, a few days after Congress passed a deal to end the debt-ceiling showdown that brought the nation to the brink of credit default, a conservative talk-radio host in the Milwaukee suburbs went on an extended riff about Gwen Moore, the first African American elected to the House from Wisconsin. Keep it classy, Mark quote:Scott Walker’s parents are friendly and unfailingly earnest, and to hear them tell it, their son was called to leadership by God. His father, Llewellyn, was a Baptist minister, and before Scott could even read, he was summoned to the front of church to offer prayers. At age seven, in tiny Plainfield, Iowa, where Reverend Walker served on the town council, Scott founded the “Jesus USA Club” and would hop up on an improvised soapbox to raise money for a state flag outside the village hall. Not long after that, his family moved to Delavan, a small manufacturing town in southern Wisconsin. Walker went door to door to campaign for a classmate’s father who was running for local office. Walker’s parents told me that his teacher asked him why he was doing that. “Because he’s a good man,” he informed her. Scott Walker's childhood was indistinguishable with 1950s Mississippi quote:Among U.S. cities, Milwaukee has long been an outlier. In the late nineteenth century, it was the most foreign city in the country: By 1890, a mere 13 percent of its inhabitants were the children of American-born parents. For most of the period between 1910 and 1960, the city was governed by Socialist Party mayors. And, as the twentieth century wore on, Milwaukee stood apart for another reason: It remained remarkably and stubbornly white. The Great Migration that had brought some six million African Americans from the South between 1910 and 1930 and in a second wave around World War II transformed just about every major city in the North—except Milwaukee. Few migrants made it past the great sponge of Chicago, in part because there wasn’t a plentiful supply of jobs to entice them: Milwaukee’s labor market was then amply filled by European immigrants and workers from the declining timber and mining industries up north. By 1960, blacks made up nearly a quarter of Chicago’s population and nearly 30 percent of Detroit’s and Cleveland’s. In Milwaukee, they accounted for less than 10 percent of residents, the smallest proportion of African Americans in any of the 15 largest cities in the country. Milwaukee appears to be the most politically polarized city in the country Have some pictures    And finally one last gem quote:He and [his wife] Tonette married on Reagan’s birthday, and every year they celebrate their wedding anniversary / Reagan’s birthday by serving the Gipper’s favorite dishes, such as macaroni-and-cheese casserole and red, white, and blue jelly beans. Walker’s mother attributes his even keel to his faith. “He prayed and read the Bible every day, and when things got rough, [supporters would] tell him they were praying for him,” she says.  jesus christ
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Iron Crowned posted:One of the things that gets to me about those types is they'll even go back to the "Founding Fathers." If the founding fathers had considered freedom a universal right they would have banned slavery in the constitution. Hey that actually makes sense
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I think Hillary would have been a better president than Obama but anyone who thinks the GOP would have gone any less apeshit is delusional
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HelloSailorSign posted:This does make my head explode. That sounds a little too high culture for a real conservative
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:Poor trigger discipline. Get this liberal false flag out of here. perhaps the gun was pointed at a liberal?
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FMguru posted:Oh lord. The NYT Magazine this week has its cover article about the hot new political movement that's a huge hit with all the kids - Libertarianism! Kids these days listen to pop music, EDM and rap. Radio rock seems to have pretty much keeled over and died 10 years ago. comparing the up-and-coming political movement doesn't really seem to make much sense icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Aug 8, 2014 |
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beatlegs posted:"Libertarianism" is all about image and gloss and thinking of yourself as "cool" cuz you're not on one side or the other. You're an iconoclast, man, with a rock and roll attitude and "gently caress political correctness" philosophy. You're just too cool for school! But more specifically it's about the whitest of white, oldest of old, FYGM-est of FYGM conservatives rebranding their image to attempt to look hip and ending up being 10 years behind what young people actually act like. They're comparing it to loving Pearl Jam, a band whose peak was in, what, 2001?
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:https://twitter.com/toddstarnes/status/499305118622564352 There's no internal battle. In these people's view the police exist to protect and defend innocent white people and beat and terrorize black people, who are thuggish and criminal by nature. The police aren't supposed to brutalize middle class white people, they're supposed to brutalize the degenerate urban ferals. There's only a contradiction if you assume they think poor urban blacks and themselves are equal. They don't
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Rip Testes posted:... Sean Hannity forums ...  I'm sorry, I just don't really feel like thinking about such a concept
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FuzzySkinner posted:Three easiest way to lure Millennials to your party? Well, that and desisting from screaming about niggers, sluts and faggots 24/7 in all parts of the media they control. But yeah none of that will ever be done. Neocons won't allow any real criticism of surveillance or civil liberties issues, and the business wing and libertarians would go utterly apeshit at any kind of debt canceling or subsidies to students. They are constitutionally unable to do anything other than complain about the Democratic administration.
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Mr Interweb posted:Right, but whether it's based on race or income, you still have to meet minimum academic requirements, right? Most colleges don't have minimum academic requirements AFAIK. They accept or reject people 100% at their own discretion, that's why the essays/non-academic parts of the application exist. From what I understand the legal basis of opposition to AA mostly relies on a twisting of the Civil Rights Act to say that AA is (reverse) discrimination and thus illegal under the 1964 Act. Which I guess is technically true but clearly against the spirit of the law. Most of the time conservatives are opposed to the CRA because it infringes the freedom of speech, but if you want to use the freedom of speech to help minorities then gently caress you. icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Aug 23, 2014 |
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Mr Interweb posted:Okay now I'm curious, how is AA supposed to work exactly? There isn't actually a standardized program, basically "Affirmative Action" w/r/t college education refers to any time a university, public or private, selects one applicant over another because of race. Some institutions had explicit racial quotas, which was ruled illegal by the Supreme Court in 1978 under the 14th Amendment (for public universities) and the Civil Rights Act (for private). Universities are allowed (for the time being at least) to consider race, but not to have racial quotas. Republicans want to ban even considering race.
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PeterWeller posted:Today I learned that he can't pronounce "plague." He says, "pleg," like "peg." He is a gift. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIb4ORefBaE Try to distinguish this voice from Mark Levin without looking at the video
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ToxicSlurpee posted:If Republicans come into power you can bet your rear end that social programs (well, just enough to keep 51% of the vote and prevent massive insurrections from happening) will come back. Well, that benefit their favorite demographics, anyway. Ehhhhh I'm not so sure about that. Remember even in 2004 when they had the presidency and both houses they were pushing Social Security and Medicare privatization. It's not just a card they pull out to grind things to a halt when the Democrats are in power. Of course even worst case scenario there's no way they'll get back to even 2004 levels of power, so I guess it's a moot point.
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Part of the party switching thing is that there were both conservative and liberal wings in the Republican Party too before the 1960s. Especially in the Midwest, when Republicans today say they've always been Republicans that is usually true; It was Republicans in New York and California and the Dixiecrats who switched parties. Take Romney for example, he's definitely further right than his father was, but it's not like the Romney family were ever Dixiecrats. The former conservative wing of the GOP never actually went away and went on to become (what remains of) the GOP establishment.
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I think there are parallels between the left and the right, but the left has essentially no presence in American politics. Left meaning socialists and radical environmentalists basically. Liberals and the right have very little in common.
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FuzzySkinner posted:O'Reilly is trying to claim that conservatives would never call liberals "Racist", "Sexist", and "Homophobic" to liberals. 
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