The Miscellaneous Seinen Thread

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Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Woah, that's a pretty big wall of spoilered speculation! Lemme give my own take. (If I don't address a point, assume that I didn't have anything interesting to say about it.)

You're completely right that he completely missed the point on this leap and didn't really look for the cause.
I don't really think that he's rerun this all before. He seemed to be recalling things in the moment that he'd forgotten before. Yes, memory can be unreliable and all that, but I'm not sure it's going that direction.
There's definitely something odd going on with Kayo. I kinda suspected she might be a time traveller, too. But she doesn't seem to be making efforts to change anything, so I don't know why she would've time travelled. Maybe there's something else going on with her to explain the oddity.
I dunno about Ken'ya. He does seem like a pretty mature kid, but there isn't the degree of oddness associated with him that there was with Kayo.
I did notice the teacher's facial similarity... But I'm not sure how much there's to that. "Sketchy" is an awfully vague description. Also, I can't think of any reason for Satoru's mother to have a negative reaction to his face like she did to the kidnapper's face. That's definitely significant.
As for Yuuki, the lolicon porn is definitely suspicious, but it might've been presented as a red herring that explains why the police settled on Yuuki and didn't really look for another culprit. It's not like Japan has a shortage of lolicons.
Hitomi was specifically noted as feminine looking for a boy. That might explain it. Plus, two out of three being ten years old honestly isn't a very large sample size to draw patterns from.
The third girl: actually, two apparently unrelated out of four known victims or would-be victims (remember the attempted kidnapping Satoru's mother foiled) and Satoru himself at that time notes the kidnapper's likely done this with who knows how many kids.
Interesting speculation about Katagiri. Not sure what else to say about it. I think we might need to see more.
Yeah, I think a more thorough perusal of the anthology might provide enlightening (and honestly Satoru's kinda assuming when he thinks Ken'ya was referring to one of two specific entries).
I feel like there're some very important pieces we're missing here, in part because of Satoru's very narrow focus on saving Kayo without addressing the underlying issue of "there's a guy kidnapping kids".

# ¿ Jul 17, 2013 20:13

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 17:19

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

AxeBreaker posted:

I think the scanslator only wants to work from tankobons, which come out less often and are expensive.

Tankobons generally have better printing quality (which translates into better scans) and often have extras that weren't in the magazines. Plus I've actually seen an instance of the art getting touched up from the magazine edition to the tankobon edition, though that doesn't seem necessarily that common? Plus in some cases they can be easier to get than all the magazines a work appears in.

So, yeah, some scanlators work exclusively from tankobons.

Kaja Rainbow fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Aug 1, 2013

# ¿ Aug 1, 2013 07:55

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

"Long ago had aspirations of being toilet paper" sounds about right for magazine quality paper. Really, they're made to be disposable, while tankoubon're made to be colllected. In general, it all depends on scanlator priorities. Some of them go for quick releases while others focus on quality above all. Many fall somewhere in the middle. The more popular stuff tends to get the rapid-fire releases while those working on more obscure titles often go at their own paces.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2013 14:09

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

codeorange posted:

Wait, so that scanslating group kisu isn't the people who made the translations? It's kind of lovely that they'd take the credit for work that isn't their own.

What's even stranger is that the new chapters on Batoto are all gone. You can find them all on kissmanga, as well as the other manga hosting websites.

Not so surprising those chapters're gone if they just slapped their own names on the Jmanga rips. Batato's more strict than the other hosting sites about stuff like that.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2013 10:24

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

For some reason the wife is my favorite character in Cooking Papa.

# ¿ Oct 13, 2013 15:39

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Jack Does Jihad posted:

I don't know where else to ask this, as there's not a "general" thread or anything.

Do people read Junji Ito's Uzumaki because they think it's scary or because they think it's hilarious? I started reading it for for the first time last night and all I could think was "this is silly." Is that kind of reaction expected?

Like I said, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask (this forum has so few threads!) and I checked and Uzumaki was apparently serialized in some seinen mag so it kinda counts I guesss. It's just hard to gauge what tone it's going for and what kind of reaction I'm supposed to have.

Junji Ito's horror tends to be pretty wacko. It's, depending on the reader, hilariously weird or terrifyingly bizarre (or both). He doesn't really hold back--you're in for a crazy ride.

# ¿ Oct 17, 2013 18:55

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

EDIT: decided the Satoshi Mizukami thread is a better place

Kaja Rainbow fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Nov 18, 2013

# ¿ Nov 18, 2013 10:03

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

drat, "Alice In Wonderland as done by Clive Barker" is a great description for Dorohedoro.

# ¿ Dec 9, 2013 11:48

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

I'll say that one thing I love about Kiichi is that it actually depicts people that look like people. Full of interesting quirks and all.

# ¿ Dec 21, 2013 12:22

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Tokyo Ghoul is seinin. A quick check of its category labels on other sites confirms that. You can also find it on Batoto here. And I suggest getting used to the art styles you can't stand, but I know everyone can have their own little quirks. For example, I sometimes have a hard time getting into Tezuka, though I've really enjoyed some of his works.

Most of what I would recommend's covered in this thread, but there's always Death Sweeper if you don't mind general grossness (it's about a business that cleans up heavily rotted dead body remnants).

This is kinda an odd and random pick, but there're Kutsuzure Sensen and Gun and Stamps. I don't recall thsoe being discussed in this thread. They're both filled with military geekiness, black humor, and cute character designs. Kutsuzure Sensen's set in WWII and is about a witch who gets recruited into the Russian army (with plenty of inherent black humor), while Gun and Stamps is about a rather by-the-book logistics officer's misadventures in an alternative history setting. I don't know if they'd be to people's tastes, but I like them for the black humor I keep talking about.

# ¿ Dec 24, 2013 17:26

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Genocyber posted:

this would make sense...if not for the fact that there are still some similar things to our world that don't make sense, like the police/army/whatever having the same kind of uniforms. There's no need to have that when you don't actually need protection from bullets and things.

The first thing that comes to mind is protection against disabling but not lethal injuries. There's already a certain doctrine stated by a real-life person that states it's better to cripple enemy soldiers than kill them, because then they become a burden to their own side. Likewise while they can just put a bullet in themselves, it's harder if they're suffering shock while slowly bleeding out. And that'd give the enemy more time to act.

# ¿ Jan 8, 2014 19:03

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Ytlaya posted:

But wouldn't the only burden be "putting a bullet in the head of the disabled person"?

I was only citing that as a real-world example of what I'm talking about. And not being disabled in the first place means they don't have to waste time and bullets doing that. Plus they aren't down one in a heated situation where there might not be much time to spare for getting to and shooting the disabled.

# ¿ Jan 8, 2014 21:24

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

UberJumper posted:

So i read pretty much everything i could get my hands on for Dorohedoro. I have no idea how he is going to finish the entire story up in a single volume. It started out really good, and well it kind of lost something after awhile. But it still is fantastic.

Fairly minor correction: the creator is a woman (which might go a way toward explaining her fantastic female characters--Noa's easily my fave Dorohedoro character).

# ¿ Jan 31, 2014 23:48

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

ZerodotJander posted:

You can try Tobaku Haouden Rei and its sequel too, another psychological challenges hosted by a crazy rich guy story, also by Fukumoto but not as drawn out and zawa zawa as Kaiji.

Yeah, I recall hearing that the shounen magazine it was published in pretty much forced the author to adopt a faster pacing. Not exactly a negative thing.

# ¿ Mar 5, 2014 01:44

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Breaky posted:

I believe aijn had a change of authors midway through. Agreed with your sentiments and also recommend Immortal Hounds.

Yeah, the artist became the author several chapters in and... he's not really very good at it. Didn't take much for me to jump ship, though--from the beginning it only interested me a little. Honestly I would rather have Immortal Hounds on Crunchyroll than Aijn.

# ¿ Jun 26, 2014 12:14

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Allarion posted:

New chapter of Boku Dake ga Inai Machi. (snipped)

Those comments're kinda spoily, you know. Might want to put them in spoiler blocks. Not that I care as much as some people but still.

Kaja Rainbow fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Aug 1, 2014

# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 10:59

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Captain Invictus posted:

The best way to point out spoilers is to quote them and not tag them yourself.

Can't believe that slipped my mind. Fixed.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 12:10

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Shugojin posted:

If Hellsing started out as porn it sure made its transition to being about Alucard killing poo poo pretty quickly.

More like the author started out doing porn--which is a common thing in manga. I can think of other mangaka beyond the ones listed, including one who started out with some really hardcore poo poo and now does fluffy and cute manga.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2014 22:27

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Nine of Eight posted:

I honestly think it may also have to do with the fact that whoever took over translating the series is Duwang level bad

I pretty much stick exclusively to Twisted Hel Scans's releases for that reason. Which means I'm behind by some chapters, but I don't have to deal with those other groups' lovely translations (and it's not as if Twisted Hel actually dropped the chapters, there're just random people leaping ahead of them and releasing often literally random chapters).

That said, while I haven't found Tokyo Ghoul bad enough for me to drop it yet, there are better series out there and if it came down to a choice between keeping up on it and keeping up on those other series, I'd pick the other series in a heatbeat. I might just make this choice eventually.

Kaja Rainbow fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Aug 13, 2014

# ¿ Aug 13, 2014 15:18

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Myself, I momentarily misread it as Fist of Apocalypse, before I mentally corrected myself.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 21:45

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Liar Game is pretty interesting, though some of the games can drag on a bit long. But I got turned off by the translators' misgendering of a particular character (misgendering that didn't really exist in the original language). It got too painful for me to keep reading.

# ¿ Sep 21, 2014 22:47

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Franken Fran is more of a really macabre comedy anyways.

# ¿ Sep 24, 2014 12:20

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

pentyne posted:

I'm only reading Bambino because it seems like no one cares about translating the best cooking manga there is, Nobunaga's Chef. It's been 2 months since updates, I guess the scanalators have abandoned it.

2 months honestly isn't that much, certainly not long enough to say that it's been abandoned. Scanalators' release paces can vary widely based on assorted factors, and some are just slower than others. It's a hobby after all.

In fact, looking at their release dates on Mangaupdates, a few months between releases isn't unheard for them. Plus there're good odds it's a monthly series anyway.

# ¿ Oct 3, 2014 12:05

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Syrant posted:

I really like the Incan or Mayan or Aztec stuff that is involved in this. I honestly couldn't place it but it just seems like one of those.

The gods referenced to in this are Aztec.

# ¿ Oct 10, 2014 13:43

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Allarion posted:

How I stalked some dude with an exposed nipple and stumbled upon the Zenithian Sword.

Just discovered this, it's another one of those 2ch thread inspired comics apparently. It's pretty decent, especially if you're knowledgeable about Dragon Quest V.

It's an interesting read. And by the way, there's a LP of Dragon Quest V on the LP archive, so anyone curious about what this manga's referencing can check that out. But it's got solid enough characterization that DQV knowledge probably isn't really necessary. (It manages to make the tale of a bum who does nothing but build bonfires interesting and insightful.)

# ¿ Oct 16, 2014 00:32

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Squidster posted:

Yes! I've been waiting forever for the next issue. As always, the worldbuilding is just simply bizarre. If they have guns but not wars, why the hell do their guns have multiple bullets? If they're just used as medical devices, there's no need for semi-auto fire or scopes.

Yeah, the manga seems to be actually pointing out questions like that--the fat vector outright questioned why the immortal world had guns just like his non-immortal world.

Sophism posted:

Inside Mari really needs to be weekly to justify the rather plodding pace. Don't get me wrong, I like how Oshimi focuses on the subtleties of characters' expressions, but I felt like not even Flowers of Evil had so much emphasis put into it. Then again, that story did meander around a lot during its final arc.

Makes me wonder if he has any idea on how to actually wrap up the story, seeing as there's really only one plot point worth discussing, and it almost feels like the meandering is him trying desperately to create new conflict opportunities. I can't believe I'm asking for flashbacks, but maybe some into the MC's old life would be a way to handle this. Assuming of course the theory that Mari has DID isn't accurate.

It does seem to have a slow pacing. And at this point I'm pretty much on the fence about what's actually going on, though I'll say that it definitely isn't DID, though it could be something else, like dissociative fugue which was brought up in a previous discussion of this.

# ¿ Nov 19, 2014 06:31

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Captain Invictus posted:

Oh sup, new Dorohedoro chapter!

I will never tire of Nikaido's frozen demonic expression of glee.

Heh, yeah, that permanent face is great.

# ¿ Nov 21, 2014 22:14

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Turin Turambar posted:

Slang talk made it a bit hard to understand.

That was probably an attempt to localize a dialect. But I've seen easier to understand ones.

# ¿ Sep 13, 2015 11:13

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

pentyne posted:

Just fyi its by the same guy as Prison School.

(that's not a criticism Me and the Devil Blues was his absolute favorite work and Prison School is pseudo-porn otaku bait he made to pay the bills but it took off well enough that now he's able to go back to Devil Blues)

This misinformation keeps getting brought up. Sigh. It's only an unsubstantiated guess by goons about his motives. Prison School is not the only fanservice work he has under his belt, I've heard.

# ¿ Feb 16, 2016 18:29

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

HenryEx posted:

Fire Punch is once again pushing the boundaries in grimdark cruelty on contemporary problems by having a transgendered character not being able to get a sex change since the body's regeneration restores the original state. Also due to this regeneration, said character has to basically live forever with gender identity disorder.

It does bring up the interesting duality of person 1 suffering eternal bodily torment, and person 2 suffering eternal mental torment, so maaaybe they can find some kind of common ground there, but i'm not having high hopes since one of them is basically a tortured 13 years old.

gently caress that noise, I'm not gonna read it then. I was kinda curious about the silly movie themed villain thing, but that particular treatment of a trans character that you mentioned just turned me off that. I don't really want to read about someone being stuck with eternal gender dysophia. I've underwent enough of that for a lifetime.

EDIT: Also, gently caress the author for using trans people for cheap edgy drama.

Kaja Rainbow fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Feb 14, 2017

# ¿ Feb 13, 2017 23:28

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Relin posted:

don't use mangafox and its subsidiaries. i clicked this since i didn't know what series it was and it said it was licensed in your country and then accidentally clicked an ad image in my haste. luckily i use several layers of browser security but in the long past i once got a virus from MF

This is how I feel about kissmanga which some people use. Folks, Mangadex now has a option to have all the chapter pages displayed in one scroll.

# ¿ Mar 23, 2018 00:16

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Nothing I've heard about Goblin Slayer has made me want to read it.

# ¿ Jul 13, 2018 03:58

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

As a furry... I thought Zootopia was a decent movie but no better than that. Stop worrying about us. It's 2019.

# ¿ Feb 7, 2019 14:49

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

Coaaab posted:

Oh, more crossdressing pretty boys. Pass. As a transwoman, I'm not fond of that trope.

# ¿ Mar 14, 2019 02:29

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

doomrider7 posted:

Weird, they were showing just fine earlier.

Error 403 Forbidden. They're from Pixiv. No idea how to share them without it being a headache or just dropping the links.

Just save the images and upload them to an image sharing site. Better idea in general than hotlinking

# ¿ Aug 27, 2019 11:17

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 17:19

Kaja Rainbow: Oct 17, 2012; ~Adorable horror~

There are some strong similarities in this flashback to the stories told about the actual historical Gautama Buddha. Broadly, his circumstances were similarly privileged, and similarly he got a rude shock that caused him to abandon that privileged lifestyle to seek enlightenment. However, the details in this manga definitely differ, and it's very much an alternative take on Gautama, though an interesting one. I'll note also, we have little info about Gautama Buddha's life outside legends. Also, the name of King Jakata seems to be taken from the name of a collection of tales about the Buddha's past lives, the Jakatas.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2021 23:33

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