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RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Alien Rope Burn posted:

I used to play on Exalted MUSHes, so here's how it tended to break down there:

No kidding? Did you ever play on River Province or Wine Dark Seas? I briefly administrated River Province.

Nessus posted:

I remember one fella on one place had a note in his character info saying, basically: "If you lie to my character he will know instantly, and he will kill you."

That was me!

If River Province sucked for you, that was my fault, so sorry.

RiotGearEpsilon fucked around with this message at 16:47 on May 29, 2014

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RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Nessus posted:

Don't worry, my long experience at WoD games prepared me for the bitter taste of defeat! :v:

I was able to make it work, kind of, for a while, by spending literally hours a day working on it, and as a result had serious difficulty with some of my college career. Once I had an actual day job, hoo boy, that poo poo did not work anymore.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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I may not be feverishly jerking off about how amazing Exalted 3e is going to be, but I'm still looking forward to owning and reading it. I don't think we're exactly in a miasma of ultimate despair.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Something about a night caste with a grimcleaver tickles me. The world's stealthiest axe murderer.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Stephenls posted:

Isn't that pretty much how it always worked?
This. It's a bit late to complain about divergent mote regeneration rates.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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If you guys think 'faster regen in combat than out' is a new thing, you're wrong de facto even if you're correct de jure. Remember stunts? Remember how you would get motes for them? Remember how you would stunt every action and getting a 2d stunt was blindingly easy?

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Stephenls posted:

I remain convinced that Husbandry is basically ideal, except for the one gigantic neon blinking impossible-to-ignore reason that it's terrible.
Stephen, this game has a charm that lets you gently caress someone so spectacularly and competently that their orgasm is so good and so fulfilling that they fall head over heels in lust with you, in three minutes.

It has a gently caress Mudra.

You're worried people will snicker at one of the abilities being Husbandry? Do you need a mountain to help you wash down that grain of sand?

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Look, if you have enough faith in your audience that you can include Ultimate Sun-Courtesan magic in the book, you can put Husbandry on the character sheet. Or just Wrangling. Wrangling would work.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Attorney at Funk posted:

You can't call it Wrangling unless you're prepared to write Lasso-based attack charms for it.

Do you really think they aren't? Do you think I'M not?

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Plague of Hats posted:

EDIT: Maybe this is even what they are doing. They don't necessarily have to put any of the leaked Charms into the core book, but it's nice to get them into playtesting as early as possible.

Yeah, if they aren't doing that, they should seriously consider it. HINT HINT, STEPHEN

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Ferrinus posted:

I'm not sure that Heavenly Guardian Defense is as bad as you say. It basically turns a Decisive attack into, instead, a lovely Withering attack, and in the exact proportions that you want it to because you get to see the final damage before you spend any initiative of your own.
I'd sure as gently caress rather lose ten Initiative than seven health levels and an arm. Note also that you can use Heavenly Guardian Defense while completely mote-tapped, meaning you can freely devote 100% of your motes to tearing the enemy to shreds.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Roadie posted:

Given how it's been mentioned that OPP still has trouble paying its writers even after all the Kickstarters, I assume that printing and IP licensing costs must be such that their money safe actually contains opposite universe anti-dollars.
Dude, that's a serious accusation. Citations needed!

Ego Trip posted:

Nice title.
For posterity after it inevitably gets fixed:

Plague's custom title posted:

"If you don't take an insincere reading followed by a sincere case for optimizing rape seriously, then maybe you're the shitlord."

I lied about Michael Goodwin, did no work for seven months, got blacklisted, and then tried to bullshit people by saying I was just TOO progressive.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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He covered it a bit on his tweetfeed.

https://twitter.com/plagueofhats/status/480605399553679360

https://twitter.com/plagueofhats/status/480625177911250944

Long story short - no, not really.

I mean, the devs are really annoyed at him, but that's because he keeps sassing them all over the internet, not for some gross failure to perform prior to his quitting.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:

The part about being a fuckhead to this Michael Goodwin guy is true though?

Unless I'm mistaken, they're referring to this post from earlier in the thread, which is... well, it's rude of him to speak that way about a peer, but none of that is a lie. Michael Goodwin has many great qualities but his mechanics tend to be more about form than function. What I mean by that is that they are intended to be illustrative of concepts within the game narrative, rather than necessarily easy to use or fun to use, because he doesn't usually use the mechanics.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Ferrinus posted:

Wait, wait. Grabowski? Grabowski? But-

Yeah, back up and explain this one, Plague. I'm calling bullshit.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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theironjef posted:

Good, I hope he fixes Scion. I hope someone fixes Scion. Are you part of fixing Scion? It needs very badly to be fixed. First, the auto-success pile on was silly. That game is playable for like 10 xp. Second, the Pantheon powers were hilariously out of balance and the Norse one was antithetical to Norse beliefs. Third, I'd say that the book doesn't need to suggest prostitute as a common career for every single female god. I think there's like one that doesn't. Same with the Japanese pantheon, where more than half of them work in anime, which is downright silly.

Hey Neall, you can fix this.

[libel]If I know Neall, and I do, you can expect every deity, regardless of gender or rank, to commonly be a prostitute. That's just how Neall do.[/libel]

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Kenlon posted:

Saying "At the end of combat, mote pools are set to no higher than they were at the start of combat" is much simpler than having even more accounting for motes.
Yeah, that is some poo poo-easy accounting.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Mexcillent posted:

So, the final opinion on those leaked things is that like normal Exalted its got some good, bad, and ugly stuff?

Also, virtues are totally gone right?

It looks like it'll have better core mechanics than 1e and 2e, which is really the most I can reasonably ask for.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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AdjectiveNoun posted:

Hey, can someone PM me the leaked playtest rules? Haven't been able to find them on the internet yet, and I'm interested enough by what's been discussed in this thread to want to know more.

If you can't find them on the internet, you are barely trying. There's a link on the first post of every Exalted General thread on 4chan's /tg/ board.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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I could see War charms that let you turn your own Circle in to an extension of your killing power - not exactly a battlegroup, but that lets them be more effective at bolstering you.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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I can't see any evidence for what NutritiousSnack is describing.

Ferrinus posted:

Scanning the Onyx Path forums has allowed to learn that you are officially not allowed to discuss the contents of the leak on the Exalted forum itself. That must make for a really healthy and cool posting environment.

It is super awkward, especially when people start asking about 'hey do we have any idea about [thing leaked]' and we all just metaphorically look at each other and cough.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Bigup DJ posted:

Actually did the devs ever say they were going to delay the game because of the leak?
They pretty explicitly said that they weren't going to delay a thing, although there was some talk of putting the playtesting on hold (which, so far as I know, never happened, because that would be stupid).

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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NIV3K posted:

Just got word last night that the expanded playtesting has ended prematurely. We were told that our contributions weren't more valuable than those of the small group they were using before to playtest. Therefore all further material will only go to said group and the rest of us are out in the cold.

This just feels like a delayed reaction to the leak. Mørke is taking his ball home. I'm guessing they weren't able to nail whoever did this.

Yeah, that... ugh. My faith, it's dwindling again. why

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Nessus posted:

Is there any way to claw back money from KS, honestly? I'm guessing unfortunately not.
Don't embarrass yourself. You've got an entire leaked alpha worth of evidence of good faith attempt to produce Exalted 3e. Demanding a refund under the pretense that they've produced no evidence of product would be farcical.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Supernal abilities interest me. I'm prone to char-op shenanigans myself, but it's clear that the charm tree are written with the Supernal capability in mind. I'm eager to see how it plays out. I have no idea how that'll be.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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They don't even have to remove it completely - just reduce it to something tolerable. Perfect equity is nice but it's not the end-all-be-all.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Yeah, he got his rebellious lymph node extracted and it was a complete success so far as I've heard.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Roadie posted:

As a whole I like having some changes to have more internal coastlines and stuff, but I have to say, now the Western islands are even more absurdly distant from the rest of everything else in a setting where most of the ships around are supposed to be triremes.

Even with supernaturally good sailors, how are these Bronze Age folks sailing trade routes as long as the width of the Pacific Ocean (if not more)?

My guess? It turns out it's impossible to stop artists from drawing galleons, so now they have galleons.

Director: "Stop drawing galleons."
Artist: "Sure." *draws more galleons*
Director: "You're fired. Next artist, you're up."
Artist2: "Happy to help. Galleons, right?"
Director: "No, triremes."
Artist2: "Like this?" *draws galleons*
Director: "You're fired. Next?"
Artist3: "Galleons!"
Director: "No!"
Producer: "We're out of art money."
Director: "arrrrrrgh"

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Kenlon posted:

. . . that brings to mind the idea of the UCS forging a new sun every night, sending it out in the morning.

drat. CANON!

"Why don't you do your job anymore, Sol?"

"I'm sorry, did you notice THE loving SUN CROSSING THE SKY TODAY? YOU'RE WELCOME. NOW gently caress OFF"

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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I'm pretty sure that's Kejak's rear end you're ogling.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Excelsiortothemax posted:

Also, that is something I miss in Exalted. A being that turned away from the God(s) because they thought what they were doing was wrong, was punished for it, labeled an evil being, but now tries to help those that are less than him.
Five Days Darkness?

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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bartkusa posted:

How does one go upstream?
Put donkeys on the side of the river, tie boat to donkeys, make donkeys pull the boat.

I'm not kidding. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse-drawn_boat

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Ultimate Superhuman Swordsman but can't cook for poo poo, life is suffering.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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gourdcaptain posted:

Yeah, I've got them around somewhere. They make my copy of 1e look downright comprehensible and sane. And they're not nearly as fun to read. Anyway, Exalted 3e is at least going to presumably eventually deliver something semi-comprehensible (if probably not something I'd ever want to play, but I'm so burned out on caring about Exalted due to some terrible campaigns I'm almost hoping the final game's just fun to riff and dissect) or continue being the most amazingly entertaining soap opera of a development cycle I've seen.

I also backed that kickstarter. I never expected to get a good game out of it, but I expected it to at least be amusing. But it was just boring and bewildering. Tremendous disappointment.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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It is kind of insane that one person wrote that, another person edited that, a third person illustrated that, and a fourth laid that out, and either none of them realized it was going to be a problem, or none of them were able to convince the developer that it was going to be a problem.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Liquid Communism posted:

Hey, if it makes you feel any better, Catalyst Game Labs published a Shadowrun book that contained an adventure suggestion that entailed slaughtering your way through the angry ghosts of the victims at Auschwitz II Birkenau to get ahold of the scalpel used by a Mengele stand-in because it was a magic item thanks to the horrors it was used to inflict.

Catalyst Game Labs are not a proud name to be compared to these days, after the whole 'embezzling money and not paying their freelancers' dealy. So, not so much.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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I'm normally the first to poo poo all over that sort of neepery, but I'm actually okay with the Martial Arts rule. An optional specialist skill which is used for optional specialist powers which is more potent but unlocked through an expenditure... it's a bit baroque, but it fits together pretty neatly. It's complex, but it's not bullshit.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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Bedlamdan posted:

It doesn't look like they'll have anything other than the first three castes, but it's nice that Lunar Bond is no longer a thing.

I was kind of exasperated at the Lunar fluff at first glance - it feels very strongly like a reaction against 2e, rather than driven from any raw source - but I'm not prepared to give it too much poo poo until I see how it's expanded on in practice.

I haven't really read the leak fully yet, been busy, but I'm really looking forward to it.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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The point is to make all the satrapies pay taxes in jade. So they send all the jade from the threshold to the Isle.

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RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
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slut chan posted:

Aren't we also getting a paid for fully developed professional official version of Anathema?

Not exactly - the Anathema crew has access to this stuff before the rest of us, so they'll be able to get it up and running faster, but they aren't getting paid for this any more than the devs are, which is to say, less than you'd earn at mcdonalds.

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