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Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

ultramiraculous posted:

This only minutes after they blame Dee for "taking it to far" by "joking" about being suicidal.

There's some things you just don't joke about.

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Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

I can't believe that so many of you didn't like Psycho Pete. Considering how early Mac's Catholicism, Rickety Cricket being a priest, and the Glory Hole were introduced in the series, I thought that the confessional scene in the bathroom was a huge payoff.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

I really like the moment in that episode where Dee goes outside and Charlie is building a remote control raccoon to somehow deal with the rats instead of bashing them. It feels like a subplot that got scrapped at some point, but it's such a great little detail that has nothing to do with anything else going on in the episode.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

I guess I've never really thought about it, but I can only remember what the outside of Charlie and Frank's place looks like. Have they used establishing shots of the outside of a building for Dennis and Mac or Dee's place? Is it the same one?

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

The Gang Spies Like US is better on rewatches because you already know Mac and Dennis's big secret scheme is watching porn together and having a JO sesh

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

emanresu tnuocca posted:

They don't watch porn together, they take turns :science:

That's fair, but they're still openly sharing information about porn and their "sessions" with each other.

MAC: Can I go now? Because I feel like you had a really long session last time.
DENNIS: I did, yeah, I went on for a long, long time, but that's how much it takes, all right? I'm trying to build up to something, to-to a major finish, you know?

:eyepop:

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

prefect posted:

I'll have the milk steak, boiled over hard.

BEAK!

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

drunken officeparty posted:

Are you thinking of when Charlie and Dee date the rich people because the joke was that they looked like they were banging but Mac and rich guy were actually wrestling.

Well, Mac says that these are some moves that he learned from the Maniac and that they'd have to get pretty oiled up. I've always interpreted it as Mac being so in denial about his own homosexuality that he'd literally let two separate men slam his rear end without realizing there was anything gay about it. But I also think Charlie's uncle definitely tried to molest him and some people in this thread are in denial about that soooo

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Mac learns a "wrestling move" from The Maniac in which they get oiled up and then one man stands behind another man who is bent over and thrusts forward. I am inferring, from the information in the show, that Mac and the Maniac weren't actually wrestling and in fact Mac has deluded himself into believing they were.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Cojawfee posted:

I took to mean he was watching wrestling and "learned a move" from him. Just like every kid who watches wrestling does.

Yeah, I buy that. The show doesn't explicitly state that The Maniac or the Taft brother banged Mac, so I'm not saying that I know for sure that he did. I just think that he did based on his character and the info presented in that episode.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

emanresu tnuocca posted:

The whole sequence starts with Trevor being disgusted by Dee wanting to blow him and getting super psyched about groping with Mac.

That was at the Taft mansion. The videotape was from Dennis's bedroom, meaning at some point Mac and Trevor left to go back to Mac and Dennis's apartment.

For Trevor, Does it make more sense for him to leave a mansion which probably has its own gym, he mentions practicing Krav Maga, to go to a small apartment in the city to practice fighting, or to secretly bang out of the view of his family?

Pepe Silvia Browne fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jan 8, 2016

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

drunken officeparty posted:

you are thinking way too hard about a gay joke dude

No poo poo, but this is TV discussion forum. I'm not saying "I acquit" or trying to contradict information explicitly stated by a show, I'm discussing TV.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007


"Get their clones"

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

emanresu tnuocca posted:

Technically we're still in arbitration, last we left it THA TITTY THRILLER had filibustered and drunken officeparty had a motion pending.

And I refuse to yield, sir.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

sweetmercifulcrap posted:

You can choose to see it that way, or you can see it as a culmination of years of narricistic, sociopathic behavior which has made the gang go from a fairly normal group of friends to batshit insane, who need and thrive off each other because nobody else can tolerate them.

I said this in couch chat a couple days ago, but I'm gonna quote myself here:

THA TITTY THRILLER posted:

I can appreciate why some might think that It's Always Sunny has gotten too "over the top," but in a show where the characters are constantly rejecting the opportunity to change and instead double down on their delusions, I think that becoming exaggerated "cartoon" versions of themselves kind of fits. At the very least, it fits better than in sitcoms where the protagonist learns that lying is bad at the end of every episode, only to revert back to who they were next week.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

LORD OF BUTT posted:

Does anyone else think the Charlie plots have gotten really loving mean in the past couple seasons, even by this show's standards? It's gotten a little uncomfortable to watch, honestly, because in the early seasons you could at least buy Charlie being friends with everybody, but by now, he's pretty much just their slave/plaything.

Let's not forget that Charlie has been stalking a woman for at least 11 years, probably since he was in high school, has lied to all of his friends about getting cancer, tricked a girl into falling in love with him so he could use it as leverage to improve his relationship with the Waitress, was perfectly willing to abandon Frank because he thought he was getting smarter, threatened his landlord with a gun, kidnapped a man who gave his bar a bad review, assaulted a mall Santa, and used his talent for playing a MMO to make Dee subservient to him.

I'm not saying he deserves the treatment he gets from the gang and especially Dennis, but Charlie is no saint. Anytime that he's gotten even a little bit of power, he abuses the poo poo out of it.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Sammus posted:

When the camera pans around and you see Frank there is one of my favorite moments in the entire show. I have to question how Frank knew what to do though, since Charlie never has a moment to share his plan with him.

Either Frank has done it for Charlie during past inspections, or just chalk it up to the weird bond they share as father and son/gruesome twosome/sleeping partners.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Kwyndig posted:

Doesn't he tell Dee to tell Frank?

Charlie: Okay, here's the plan. Give this to Frank. Tell him G-sharp. Then you got to paint him head to toe in black.
Dee: Why would I do any of that?
Charlie: Dee, just do it, okay? Just do it, you goddamn bitch.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

I hope that Charlie ended up getting credit for it, after a lengthy arbitration process of course.

Pepe Silvia Browne fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jan 11, 2016

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

InfiniteZero posted:

I don't know why people expect everything to resolve somehow. I love Dennis just being constantly crazy and susceptible to hilarious breakdown:



Really, why do I need more than this or an explanation for it? It's already perfect.

But, it doesn't represent him! So JUST DON'T AIR IT

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

many johnnys posted:

The part where dee hallucinates and then growls out "yyyyou got it boss hoggggg" to the couple in the seats next to her

The part where Dennis takes the Desert Trash girl down to the plane's storage area to bang, she says "You're weird" and he replies "You have no idea."

Dennis is teetering on the edge of reveling in being Fringe class just like Frank, but is still in denial about who he really is. He just needs a little push, then he can start getting real weird with it.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

emanresu tnuocca posted:

Sometimes things just sort of... end.

The show ends with the Gang finding out it was all part of a Turtle's dream in outer space.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Cojawfee posted:

Edit: Are there any bad episodes of this show? With some shows, there are episodes that I just won't go back and watch because I don't like them. I'll go through a show and watch my favorites, then start getting into some that are ok and then I'll get desperate and watch some mildly bad ones. But there's always a few that I just won't watch. I don't know if Always Sunny has that. I've been going through on Netflix and haven't found any I didn't like. There were some that I was hesitant to watch because the description was bad. I watch them and realize they are hilarious. Season 1 isn't as strong but I don't think any of them are so bad they are unwatchable.

I also just realized that in season 5, Dee arranges to be a surrogate mother but that doesn't actually happen til Season 6. That explains why I didn't remember her talking about it just like the gang.

I think the characters in this show are strong enough that even in an episode with a weak premise, you can have great character moments which redeem the episode. Like The Great Recession is pretty non-memorable, I don't think it would ever show up on a top ten list for this show, but it has Frank trying to hang himself so it kind of evens out.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

emanresu tnuocca posted:

The great recession has Paddy's Dollars and the entire bit where Dennis forgets he actually came up with the plan, and Frank's second suicide attempt after cutting his thumb is incredible. Also "You're lucky I'm a resilient man!- you tried killing yourself twice today", "we're crab people now".

Sounds pretty memorable to me but otoh I'm obsessed with this show so, whatever.

But that's precisely what I mean- every episode that someone can bring up as an example of a bad episode is filled with great moments like that.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

emanresu tnuocca posted:

I cannot abide having the episode in which the following exchange takes place be described as 'not great'


It's also the episode that has Uncle Jack reminiscing with Charlie about their 'wrestling'. It's a top tier episode imo.

See, I was trying to pull an episode that was unmemorable, I knew that it was the Dave and Buster's episode and it had the "we're crab people" line, but I completely forgot about these moments and "I feel like that's wrong, but I don't know enough about stars to dispute it." It's fantastic, I can't pick any episode as better than any other because I love them all too much.

Charlie says that if he had to share a room with Uncle Jack, he'd have to stay up all night like when he tried to share the room as kids. Uncle Jack is the Nightman theory smoking gun.

EDIT: Holy poo poo, that ending.
Dennis: Uhhhhh, you guys don't think you're going to Dave and Busters, do you?
:allears:

Pepe Silvia Browne fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Jan 11, 2016

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

phosdex posted:

The worst ep is the one where psycho Pete returns

I see people say this a lot, but I don't even think it's the worst of that season. For one outstanding reason: The gloryhole confessional scene. How early in this show's history was Mac's Catholicism introduced? Rickety Cricket being a priest goes back to Season 2, and the glory hole was introduced in season 4. And 6 seasons later they were able to weave all of those into the psycho Pete storyline without it feeling like a forced continuity callback. Plus that episode has Cricket's gay prostitution stuff and Dennis being diagnosed.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

emanresu tnuocca posted:

Cricks easily steals the show in Psycho Pete

Cricket, it's like, anything we can do to have you not talk about, like, sucking penises or getting raped in the butt-

It just keeps popping up.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

drunken officeparty posted:

Can we talk about "The Gang Gets Analyzed" because it's one of the best episodes and never gets mentioned.

How's that, huh? You having a white christmas? YOU HAVIN' A WHITE CHRISTMAS, YOU BITCH?!

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Lumberjack Bonanza posted:

Dennis giving Mac "size pills" is so loving crazy and hilarious.

Giving a man medicine for his disease - Wherever did I get that idea?

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

timp posted:

I think the real reason it's rare to find a bad Sunny episode is because most of them have at least 2 plot lines, and the likelihood of both of them being bad is very low. These scenes are hilarious

Maybe that's why Frank's Brother gets panned so much. It only has the one plot line, plus you don't get to see the inner dynamics of the gang since they never split up in the episode. Like, Charlie and Dennis play off of each other much differently than Charlie and Mac. Someone made a post in this thread a while back about how you can see how those dynamics run through the show when you start comparing multiple episodes with the same character pairings.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Well, one thing I've learned from cutting hair all these years, Danielle, is you don't have to go to a high-end salon to get a high-end salon-quality cut.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Grem posted:

Did they ever actually air the Christmas episode? It came out on DVD.

Shot for and released on DVD during season five, aired as the finale for season six.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

drunken officeparty posted:

https://twitter.com/alwayssunny/status/687350905222463488

Promo video for tonights episode.

I feel like they already did this one though

New episode tonight, boners.
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:

I loving love this twitter and video embedding poo poo

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Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

I think Mac does think that Waitress deserves to be in a woman shelter because she's "the worst," but that's still in line with his character/worldview. He would probably say that people who are homeless are being punished by God for not fearing him enough.

Mac: It's about fearing God, okay? I'm trying to convert you guys.
Dennis: Oh, my God, is that what this is about? You're not gonna convert me in one day.I don't believe in God.
Mac: Well, you should. Because if you don't, God will make a flood or a famine, okay? He will destroy you with tornadoes and earthquakes and AIDS. Where do you think AIDS came from? Uh, hello, God's gift to the gays.

It's not exactly out of character for him to think people who are suffering "deserve it."

Pepe Silvia Browne fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Jan 15, 2016

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

many johnnys posted:

I like the newest episode, but one thing that's kind of disappointing is that in this season so far, we're two for two on the waitress interacting with the gang, on purpose under her own free will.

Like Cricket, she's been circling the drain that is The Gang for quite awhile. They may treat her like dirt, but at least she has some level of value among them. (even if it's just as an object of worship for Charlie/Object of leverage over Charlie for anyone else)

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

I'm going BALD?!

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

InfiniteZero posted:

Anybody who uses IMDB ratings for anything has donkey brains.

I'm gonna need to see some sort of documentation which certifies that you don't have donkey brains if I'm to believe this. Perhaps from the DBDB?

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

How do we know YOU'RE not a DONKEY BRAINED man?

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Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Three Olives posted:

Were these people bitching the very last episode when Charlie was talking about wanting to take a stripper home to bang?

I don't doubt that Charlie has very little sex considering he lives in squalor, is an illiterate weirdo idiot and literally smells like poo poo, you know with the hanging out in the sewers and snaking toilets by hand thing but when have they ever alluded to him being asexual? If anyone is not having sex anymore it's Mac considering it's been what two seasons that everyone has acknowledged that Mac is not attracted to women but hasn't admitted to himself yet that he is attracted to men.

I can sort of see how you could take a few scenes or bits of information about Charlie and use them to back up the idea of him being an Asexual, but you're right, they'd also have to ignore a tremendous amount of other information in order to justify it. He's been obsessed with one woman for the last decade, he banged Ruby Taft, he banged Dee, he tried to bang strippers in two episodes a decade apart, and Frank catches him pounding off all the time. He clearly has some interest in sexuality.

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