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StandardVC10 posted:Of course Hans-Hermann Hoppe is on there. HHH and Charles Murray being listed as peers of random bloggers like "hbd chick" and "Captain Capitalism" is just perfect, in the exact opposite way they intended.
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Wales Grey posted:Who is this person, and what sort of posting does he do? What everyone else said, plus he came up with the astounding pile of fallacies known as Argumentation Ethics. In summary:
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You know what, gently caress it. It's Hoppe Time.quote:Private property capitalism and egalitarian multiculturalism are as unlikely a combination as socialism and cultural conservatism. And in trying to combine what cannot be combined, much of the modern libertarian movement actually contributed to the further erosion of private property rights (just as much of contemporary conservatism contributed to the erosion of families and traditional morals). What the countercultural libertarians failed to recognize, and what true libertarians cannot emphasize enough, is that the restoration of private property rights and laissez-faire economics implies a sharp and drastic increase in social “discrimination” and will swiftly eliminate most if not all of the multicultural-egalitarian life style experiments so close to the heart of left libertarians. In other words, libertarians must be radical and uncompromising conservatives. quote:In a covenant concluded among proprietor and community tenants for the purpose of protecting their private property, no such thing as a right to free (unlimited) speech exists, not even to unlimited speech on one's own tenant-property. One may say innumerable things and promote almost any idea under the sun, but naturally no one is permitted to advocate ideas contrary to the very purpose of the covenant of preserving and protecting private property, such as democracy and communism. There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and expelled from society. Likewise, in a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, there can be no tolerance toward those habitually promoting lifestyles incompatible with this goal. They – the advocates of alternative, non-family and kin-centered lifestyles such as, for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism, nature-environment worship, homosexuality, or communism – will have to be physically removed from society, too, if one is to maintain a libertarian order. quote:In every society, a few individuals acquire the status of an elite through talent. Due to superior achievements of wealth, wisdom, and bravery, these individuals come to possess natural authority, and their opinions and judgments enjoy wide-spread respect. Moreover, because of selective mating, marriage, and the laws of civil and genetic inheritance, positions of natural authority are likely to be passed on within a few noble families. It is to the heads of these families with long-established records of superior achievement, farsightedness, and exemplary personal conduct that men turn to with their conflicts and complaints against each other. These leaders of the natural elite act as judges and peacemakers, often free of charge out of a sense of duty expected of a person of authority or out of concern for civil justice as a privately produced "public good." quote:Thereby, in order to illustrate one's theoretical conclusions, every attempt should be made to compare societies which, apart from the theoretical distinction under consideration, are as similar as possible. It would be an error, for instance, to illustrate my theory of comparative government by contrasting European monarchies with African democracies or African monarchies with European democracies. Since Caucasians have, on the average, a significantly lower degree of time preference than Negroids, any such comparison would amount to a systematic distortion of the evidence. By contrasting European monarchies to African democracies, the theoretically predicted differences between monarchical and democratic rule would become systematically overstated, and by contrasting African monarchies with European democracies, the differences would become systematically understated. I feel the need to remind everyone that despite the fact that he writes like a 19th Century aristocrat, Hans-Hermann Hoppe is not only still alive, but is a professor emeritus at UNLV.
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May 20, 2015 15:06
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Toph Bei Fong posted:So it's a stupider version of that email forward inspirational tale about the businessman who goes on vacation and meets the native fisherman who doesn't work as hard as he could, and explains to the fisherman that if he worked harder he could expand his fishing into a massive business empire, then retire to do all the things he's does to relax anyways? Time preference in the real world is basically the idea that if I offered you the choice of $100 now or $100 in a year, you'd take $100 now. But if I offered you $100 now or $100,000 in a year, you'd probably wait for it. So somewhere in between there's got to be a point where the two offers are equally tempting, maybe $120 or $300 or whatever. The amount I'd have to offer you to make them equal would vary based on the situation: do you think I'm trustworthy, do you think you'd be alive in a year to get it, do you think there will be massive hyperinflation in the meantime, etc. Importantly, if someone is used to living in a precarious situation, they usually need to be offered more money later to make the wait worth it, because they're under pressure right now and they're used to having promises fall through. Austrians turn these calculations into a moral judgment. In their minds, your time preference isn't "higher" or "lower" than other people's, it's "better" or "worse." If you have Low Time Preference, you're a no-account person who just wants a quick fix, while someone with a High Time Preference is an investor and a job creator. That's why coal miners make poo poo pay and die of black lung: not because they're being exploited or because it's just a bad situation, but because they're bad people and their low time preference leads them to waste their money on stupid things like whiskey and fast food and not wanting to kill themselves. If they just saved up, they'd be able to buy their own coal mine in no time!
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May 20, 2015 18:09
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Dangit Ronpaul posted:even if you totally buy into the idea of time preference this doesn't even make any sense. not having children is easymode for saving money. Fake answer: the gays are only thinking in terms of their own lifetime, which is shortsighted in comparison to people who are concerned about the fortunes of their dynasty. Real answer: Time Preference has long since stopped being about actual time preference to people like HHH; it's just a codeword for how "civilized" you are. neonnoodle posted:Good lord they link to The Last Psychiatrist on there, are they so dumb that they think TLP is/was on their side? That guy is like if @dril and Zizek had a baby. That is a tough phrase to live up to, but I looked him up and goddamn if it doesn't fit perfectly.
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May 26, 2015 19:37
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I'm going to take a wild guess that their dreaded "dysgenics" just means "lack of eugenics." Am I on the right track?
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Jul 3, 2015 19:41
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divabot posted:/r/Anarcho_Reaction. This fuckin' sub. Basically The Right Stuff as a subreddit, i.e. neo-Nazis with some neoreactionary jargon. Oh lordy, they included a recommended reading list. Two recommended reading lists, rather. Stolen straight from /r/Anarcho_capitalism/ to boot. quote:Race, IQ, and Immigration quote:The Leftist Agenda It's like a who's who of disingenuous shitheads. Murray Rothbard, Hans Hermann Hoppe, Pat Robertson, etc. And then Bakunin awkwardly shoved in there in the proud  tradition of "citing people who would bash our heads in if they ever met us."edit: gently caress, one of the more prolific link-posters has "Breivikist" as a label next to his name. 
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Aug 14, 2015 15:17
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What the hell is that giant spike in 2009 from?
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Aug 15, 2015 18:07
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Is there a good explanation of the object-level vs meta-level thinking thing? Is it a real thing (that Scott is probably misusing), or a LW-style "more introspective than thou" concept?
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Aug 19, 2015 16:54
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The giveaway is that if it's complaining about black people, it's Lovecraft, and if it's masturbating over struggle and war, it's Hitler. The ones about Jews could go either way.
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Nov 9, 2015 16:12
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Cingulate posted:Still left of the mainstream though right? Tesseraction posted:No. There's way too many factors at play for you to make a judgement on their left/right leaning from Dem/Rep/Ind affiliation, and you of all people should know that. Yeah, as a grad student in the physical sciences, even a lot of the "socially traditional" people here tend to vote Dem, if only because the GOP has made it abundantly clear that they hate us and want to tell us what we're allowed to study. Unrelated question that ties back into the actual subject of this thread: the stupidest question that tumblr guy ever asked was "Which thede and which phyle do you consider yourself a part of? Also, why do you include so many progressive fnords in your writings?" What the hell are thedes and phyles? I'm just assuming "fnords" means "buzzwords, and also I read a counterculture book this one time."
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Feb 22, 2016 15:54
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divabot posted:The explanation. A combination of Wesley and Scott. Obviously it's a troll ask, but the actual concepts are terrible also. So it's an attempt to create a cultural taxonomy along the lines of the kingdom/phylum/etc system for biology? Race Realism taken to its full conclusion I guess. Woolie Wool posted:Is Randroids' obsessive hate-on for Kant derived from the fact that he suggested that you can't solve every problem just by thinking about it really hard with the help of ~*axioms*~ and might actually have to consult real experience instead of the view from inside your own rear end? I can't imagine they're too fond of where the categorical imperative ends up, either. I'm not supposed to treat other people as means to an end? gently caress that!
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Feb 22, 2016 16:37
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The Vosgian Beast posted:She nabs her ethics from him while condemning him, it's great. You should have hung out in the Property Rights thread before the culling. Libertarians quoting Ludwig von Mises while spitting on us for being filthy Utilitarians, it was amazing.
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Feb 22, 2016 17:32
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I don't want to derail but I always kinda liked Kant in that utilitarianism seemed like it was trying to quantify a fundamentally either unquantifiable or fraught with asymptotes quality, but i've heard people on these very forums saying that Kant's ideas are actually bad and full of flaws. I looked around a bit but didn't find any particular argument that completely brought the ownage or whatever philosophers call it, what should I be reading for a more modern view of ethics? Kant himself came to some very weird conclusions using his own logic. The "inquisitive murderer" case is probably the most famous one, but there was also something about masturbation being worse than suicide I think? Even most Kantians think Kant was a bit off. But yeah, deontologists and utilitarians have been debating each other pretty much ever since Kant started writing, and there are still non-fringe advocates of both sides.
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Feb 22, 2016 20:22
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Tesseraction posted:How would that even work? Those terms are contradictory. No government + glorification of war and struggle... so I guess a Hobbesian state of nature?
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Feb 25, 2016 17:22
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Cingulate posted:Hey SolTerrasa, what about the XML-like language Yud wanted to program FOOMAI in? A quick google search for "yudkowsky programming language" says it was Flare.
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Mar 12, 2016 00:20
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Cingulate posted:I've never seen any criticism of Sam Harris that was actually fair. Cingulate posted:he first complained about being called a white supremacist, then talked about how one zip code in NY has produced more knowledge than the entire muslim world and how 15 million Jews create much more value for the world than the entire muslim world, and then complained about being called a white supremacist again. You are a confusing person sometimes.
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Mar 30, 2016 17:14
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Cingulate posted:Yeah a bunch of stuff Yud fav Kahneman was absolutely sold on is rightfully dying right now. Not Kahneman's own research though, that has turned out to be extremely solid. So basically, there are at least two different kinds of irrationality psychology has ascribed to people, with one standing up to scrutiny, and being very interesting for TED talk audiences. The former is mostly about our intuitions wrt. probabilities and (economically quantifiable) value/risk - there, the scientific evidence is extremely strong that we're reliably falling victim to Savannah brain biases. The other is about metaphor-like subconscious influences (e.g. you walk slower after having read a lot of age-associated terms, like Florida), and the scientific evidence in favour of that being a major determinant of behavior is currently looking extremely shaky. Since it's been on my reading list for a while, how much of Kahneman's Thinking, Fast and Slow is still holding up? Alternatively, is there a better layman's summary of the current state of the art in this stuff?
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Apr 4, 2016 18:25
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pookel posted:Well, in theory, the idea is that people sometimes do good things in order to make themselves look good rather than out of altruism. This seems reasonable on the face of it; the problems comes in when you start applying that to everything you disagree with. Yeah, it sounds reasonable, but I don't see how it could be even remotely scientific. How would you go about testing sincerity?
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Apr 4, 2016 19:11
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Cingulate posted:Can't say anything about 'virtue signalling', but signalling as a concept in biology is not discredited by pointing out that the underlying individual behavior is governed by multiple factors - you can talk about selection for genes conductive of a certain behavioral pattern independently of the specific situation. Nobody else here is talking about that form of signalling though.
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Cingulate posted:Anyways, I was trying to respond to this: Then you should have just stopped here: Cingulate posted:Can't say anything about 'virtue signalling'
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Cingulate posted:Won't work, Small Frozen Thing quotes everything I post. Uh, cool? I have never read Scott's stuff and have no opinions there, which is why I didn't talk about him at all. You saw people posting about "virtue signaling" and decided to respond with a defense of signaling in biology, which is a bit like seeing people attack Social Darwinism and responding by pointing out how well respected evolutionary theory is. It makes you look like an idiot, and I want you to understand that. If you want to play devil's advocate, that's fine, but at least try to defend the position people are actually attacking.
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Maybe they mean Alice Cooper.
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Apr 5, 2016 17:28
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So what is "America is a communist country" actually supposed to mean when you run it through your moldbug decoder ring? It obviously can't mean what it says in normal English.
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Apr 20, 2016 14:22
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Karl Popper declared Marx to be "the last of the great holistic system builders". Popper spoke too soon. I'm pretty sure Popper didn't mean that as a compliment.
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Apr 22, 2016 16:43
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I read Moldbug's "I'm done with this blog" mini-post and I'm pretty sure I've seen enough of him for one lifetime. Judging from the excerpts of Sandifer's book though, Nick Land at least seems fascinatingly crazy.
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Count Chocula posted:I might be imagining things, but wasn't Nick Land constantly referenced in the mammoth Transformers exegesis in the film sub forum? I think that was Lacan.
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Aaand it's hit the goal. Really hoping it hits those stretch goals too. Want to hear his take on David Icke.  Motherfucker needs some professional help.
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May 1, 2016 17:34
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Shakespearean Beef posted:http://yudkowsky.tumblr.com/post/144258458675/giving-censored-free-airtime-on-your-blog-by Just to make sure, that's not a parody tumblr or anything, right? The only thing I saw to push it one way or the other is a plug for his dumb book.
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May 13, 2016 12:48
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I'm doing the  tier. I'm definitely getting Guided by the Beauty of their Weapons, and maybe the Wonder Woman one? Or maybe the one about the magical war between Grant Morrison and Alan Moore.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Actually, he believes the laws of thermodynamics are false. I love how he confidently asserts that MWI is an obvious and incontrovertible implication of quantum mechanics despite actual physicists being heavily divided on the question, but claims that the Second Law of Thermodynamics is somehow in question despite the fact that you can derive it solely from "things are made of quantized particles at quantized energy levels" and the First Law. It's almost as if he's basing his theories on whatever fits his predefined conclusions where nothing bad ever has to happen to him.
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Jun 14, 2016 13:03
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Frogisis posted:Has he ever actually played around with the game of life? Like the very first thing you realize is how easily and inevitably anything interesting and "organic" collapses into its version of uselessly blinking heat death. There are plenty of interesting "machines" that infinitely expand or crap out gliders or whatever. The problem is that the impressive ones don't arise without an outside force arranging every cell perfectly, and they tend to be extremely fragile if there's anything else in their universe. Parallel Paraplegic posted:Yeah he's like one step above the new age weirdos who skim a quantum mechanics for dummies book and declare that science says you can control energy with your ~mind~ My friend is getting a PhD in robotics, and her reaction to Yud is pretty much the same as when those of us in physical chemistry come across Deepak Chopra for the first time. I sent her that quote about Conway's Game of Physics, we'll see how she responds!
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Grenrow posted:What does it take for Scott Alexander to actually think something is sexist or racist? Generally the rule is you have to say "I hate so-and-so solely because she has two x chromosomes and for no other reason, including any traits that may be stereotypically associated with having two x chromosomes" and also be someone he personally dislikes anyway. Alternatively, if you support something that is associated with feminism you have a 70% shot at being sexist right off the bat.
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Lady Naga posted:This sounds like a quote from a rulebook belonging to the groggiest RPG ever. I fully admit to growing up on RPGs, which explains a lot about my writing style (and my ability to distinguish a guisarme from a glaive at 30 paces.) Still better than growing up on Ayn Rand books though.
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Tesseraction posted:Has he ever addressed that debate and admitted he hosed up royally? Surely he can't look at that and feel like he did anything other than poo poo his pants on camera. Watch a few Sovereign Citizen "victory" videos on youtube. Self-deception has no limits.
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Jun 22, 2016 17:02
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Tesseraction posted:Ogling science's butt is pretty normal, the alt-right have an armpit sweat fetish. I guess the obsession with "racialist" science would be an anime body pillow in this metaphor. Not even ogling a real science-butt, just some broken person's concept of what an ideal one should look like.
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Curvature of Earth posted:Oh, ClarkHat Don't most of these chucklefucks hate the Enlightenment anyway? Or are they more of a "
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Darth Walrus posted:She made extensive use of her private e-mail server for work when she was in the State Department, thanks to the US government's incredibly primitive IT system. This could have been a potentially troublesome security breach, so the Republicans jumped on it with a full federal investigation. The investigation found that what she'd done was irresponsible, and would probably warrant a nasty talking-to and maybe some docked pay if your boss caught you at it, but wasn't criminal. Right-wingers promptly flipped their poo poo at a government cover-up of Crooked Hillary's crimes. And all of that was just a spin-off of the Republicans' other investigations into a terrorist attack in Benghazi that killed four Americans, where they were bound and determined to prove Hillary had done some unspecified Bad Thing. This also went through a thousand investigations, and the final report on those recently dropped and said she did nothing wrong.
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Pope Guilty posted:Where do people get the idea that the SoS can give orders to the military? Do the folks who think Hillary ordered the military to stand down during the Benghazi attack hang out on the same forums as the people who blame her for Libya while pretending Obama wasn't involved? The President can give orders, and the Clinton-Benghazi theories are just mutations from the Obama-Benghazi theories after they failed to stop his reelection. That's really all it comes down to. Peztopiary posted:It's because it's impractical to indicate a Being that encompasses all that Is and Is Not. Think of the rest of the Bible as being a 2d plane and those bits as being a 3d Being intruding. It's just a replacement for the tetragrammaton to avoid "taking God's name in vain," since nobody was quite sure what counted as "in vain." There's a whole system where certain phrases and titles in English correspond to specific names of God in the original text (YHWH/Elohim/Adonai/etc), but I forget the specifics. Goon Danton has a new favorite as of 16:26 on Jul 6, 2016 |
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GunnerJ posted:lol if he wants an Enlightenment thinker who as pro-monarchy, why doesn't he just cite Kant. You know, the guy who wrote an essay on what the Enlightenment is and kissed his king's rear end throughout the whole thing. Kant famously opposed masturbation on moral grounds, and if Moldbug wasn't masturbatory he wouldn't be Moldbug.
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