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Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Sanders seems like Ron Paul, except about a decade later and from Opposite World: a pipe-dream candidate whose embrace of policies outside of the American political center excites a vocal minority of generally younger voters. I hope that, like Paul, he can spur lasting interest in policy issues among young and previously-disillusioned groups; and that he can help pull his party rhetoric off-centrism.

I hope that unlike Paul, he doesn't inspire an obnoxious personality cult that lasts far beyond the man's political expiration date.

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Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Winkie01 posted:

Jeb Bush: “People should work longer hours” to grow US economy


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jeb-bush-people-work-longer-hours/story?id=32313997

That reads like an economic policy response prepared and coached by his campaign staff. He's the GOP establishment candidate, plus has a lifetime of political connections from his family—I'm sure he has the best staff a Republican candidate could have right now. Balance of probabilities, it's easier for me to believe that he bungled when trying to say that "wage-earning Americans need to be getting more hours from their employers" than that he meant to say "bootstrap harder shitlords".

Although I'm p. sure he feels the latter in his cold, Republican heart.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




I thought that it was Janet Reno who pushed for Ginsburg, while the rest of the administration were suggesting ideas like nominating Hillary.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




ToxicSlurpee posted:

Of course but now the right is going to start screaming that it's proof that Obama was a lovely president and his own party doesn't like him anymore. Yeah recovery is happening but the recovery has been rather "meh."

The right has never waited for permission or indeed reason to scream poo poo about Obama before.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I'm going by the "Ms. Media" button. I think it's supposed to a masculine-looking woman.

Mainstream Media.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Vox Nihili posted:

I'm sure her switch to supporting marriage equality precisely as the national view tipped toward "yes" came from the heart.

I'm a couple of pages behind, but, :wtc: how is this even suspicious at all?

The period when the largest number of people were having the biggest shift in opinion would be the least suspicious time for anyone to express a sincere change of heart.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




TheDisreputableDog posted:

And this is less a straight lie than self-delusion: "Well, people should and do trust me..."

I suppose technically correct because more than one person in the country trusts her. Not a majority though.

You can literally fact-check this. Depending on the poll, it looks like her honest/trustworthy Yes responses strongly tend to outnumber the No, and frequently come out either in the majority, or within MoE of it.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Honestly, I think Sanders would do worse than Hillary would in the general. Elections nowadays are won on enthusiasm/GotV, not on ideological persuasion. Sanders actually hurts GotV: He has intense supporters, but they're mostly people who are very politically engaged and would be voting anyway.

For the broader base, I doubt that "cast a ballot for this old guy with decent policy positions" motivates D voters as much as "get out and vote so this ADMITTED SOCIALIST doesn't send give YOUR COUNTRY to lazy, unemployed Blacks illegals welfare queens!! PS also he is a Jew" motivates a lot of the R base.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




EugeneJ posted:

I know people who would rather stay home than vote for Hillary in the general election

Yeah but the Republican field is basically wall-to-wall non-motivators, plus Trump. As long as the Democratic nominee doesn't actually galvanize opposition voters to the polls, we're fine. How much passionate, action-motivating fear or disgust do you think the Republicans can generate against Hillary in the might-vote-might-stay-home base? She occupied a key advisory role during a prosperous, well-liked two-term administration, plus served in another as a well-regardes SecState. She's been vetted, in the open and by unnumbered parties, for the past quarter-century—and nothing motivatingly bad has turned up.

Also, I think "you could be voting for the first woman to become POTUS" will motivate some Democratic/left independent voters, not to mention the small but extant bloc of voters who have been crazy-eager to vote Hillary Clinton for Prez for a decade.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Sheng-ji Yang posted:

Not seeing this at all. The Republicans managed to convince the majority of Americans that Obama was a socialist and he managed to win twice. Panicking about the socialist label which the Republicans have already diluted into meaninglessness is dumb.

They can actually get quotes from Sanders describing himself as one, though.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Sheng-ji Yang posted:

What is the difference when only 36% of Americans polled saying Obama wasn't a socialist? Obama might as well have said he was a Satanic Muslim Communist, it doesn't matter what's real, what matters is what's believed.

I think that there's an important difference between what people intellectually accept as true and how they emotionally react to it. Having some soundbite of the candidate saying "yep, I'm socialist as all hell" would create a different reaction than just believing that the candidate is a socialist, but Serious Adults tell you contrary.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




GalacticAcid posted:

Rubio launches a sick burn.



A couple of likable characters who recruit a dream team of advisors and colleagues and save the future—is Cruz endorsing Hillary with this image?

e: By Cruz, I mean Rubio. Sorry, this cycle's Republican candidates are fungible.

Squizzle fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jul 9, 2015

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008






I thought he was holding a Magic: The Gathering card until I focused. :psyduck:

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




TheDisreputableDog posted:

So people are basically asking to split the thread because actual debate is "making GBS threads up" their anti-republican circle jerk utopia.

It's because some people are way tired of scrolling past the pages-long Batman vs. Goku arguments in order to find the discussions about actual news, which at this stage mostly occur around the Republican candidates.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




My biggest worry about a nuclear Iran is that maybe two months after they get a working weapon, Israel would manage to get someone in to detonate it wherever Iran had it hidden, at which point Iran has to deal with the literal and figurative fallout.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Pohl posted:

What? Why 2 months? Why not 1 or 3?
Idiot.

You are the worst poster.
What the hell are you even talking about? I've read your post a dozen times and I still don't understand it.

If Iran get bomb, then Israel would make bomb explode.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Malmesbury Monster posted:

the Roosevelt "dynasty,"

Unless you're referring to Eleanor and not FDR, those two were just distant (fifth) cousins, who happened to have the same surname.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




For the moment, it's more accurate to talk about the clown car candidates trying to distinguish themselves as Not Trumps, instead of Not Bushes. No one else has a tenth of the attention, branding, or momentum as The Donald.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




I honestly don't care too much about what email crimes she did or did not commit, since she's still the only candidate running who would be able to strongarm good judges and SCOTUS Justices onto the bench for the next eight years. Find a scandal that undermines that (or convince me that Bernie wouldn't be devoured whole by a Republican Congress) and we can talk.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




TheScott2K posted:

Why do people always say things like this as if it means it would make them a bad President? Nice Presidents turn out like Ford and Carter. I want a sociopath who NEEDS to get UHC through Congress because not doing that would mean their Quaker father was right about them being weak.

LBJ? AOK!

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Whenever someone writes it "¡Jeb!" I just automatically read it like "heb".

e: More like "habe" I guess, in an English transcription.

Squizzle fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Oct 5, 2015

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Noctis Horrendae posted:

That would definitely be pronounced "heb" phonetically. I don't know how you came up with "habe".

American English (at least,my variety of it) uses /ɛ/ (head, said, bed) for the orthographic "e", whereas Spanish (or the variety I'm most familiar with) uses /e/ for it. In my English, /e/ sounds pretty close to a long "a" (raise, date).

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




What do the second choice numbers look like these days? How many garbage-tier no-hopers would have to drop out for one of the establishment blandidates to have a chance at this point?

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Attn.: D. Trump,
Please start referring to Dr. Carson as "the Great Disappointment".

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




I hope Jeb‽'s "gently caress Rubio" campaign sets a new norm for this primary, with every GOP candidate on the decline just relentlessly blueshelling the most electable-seeming candidate left in the field.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Tricky D posted:

This would be great username for a pro-Jeb! gimmick account.

Gampy from Tampy.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




GOP Will Eat Itself.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




This primary is the most surreal election I've ever seen. None of the candidates seem capable of winning, but I know that somehow one of them has to.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Which candidate's stump speech is MIGF posting excerpts from?

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008





Poor Jeb!, his poll numbers even look confused. There are four obvious clusters: the statistical noise candidates (Graham, Pataki, Jindal, Santorum); the B-listers (Christie, Huckabee, Fiorina, Kasich, Paul); the hypothetically electable guys (Cruz, Rubs): and the fires in a crowded theater (Friend Ben, Trump).

But then there's this green tortoise-line, joyfully wandering between the groups, wondering where everyone went.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




I wonder which Republican wished on a monkey's paw in 1995, and how exactly they worded it, to ensure that 20 years later the Democratic Party would be defined by people named Hussein, Castro, and Clinton, while the Republicans reclaimed the Reagan legacy through the Bush dynasty.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008





Depicting my favorite holiday story, How the Head of k.d. lang Saved the First Family's Christmas from Q*Bert Snakes.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Totalizator posted:

One could say it's a Trump of the Will.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




e: Whoa, that didn't paste right. Maybe this will work better:


Squizzle fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Dec 13, 2015

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Mr. Pumroy posted:

i will kill myself if this turns into 10 pages of over analyzing that goddamn cartoon.

:toxx:

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Stereotype posted:

I love this graph

I like how it looks like Trump's numbers only got close enough to Carson's to devour their heart and gain their power.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Philadelphia is a city awkwardly stapled onto Pennsylvania, and Pittsburgh is a chunk of Pennsylvania pretending that it can be a city.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Montasque posted:



Yes, that's a Bibi for president button. I'm loving all the anti-Semitic dog whistles coming from both sides!

That isn't remotely subtle enough to count as a dog whistle. It's somewhere between a foghorn and an air raid siren.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




For America,
Gilmorc

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Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Has anyone checked to see if Rinse Pubis is OK? Today can't have been great for his health and mental wellbeing. :ohdear:

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