Lord Banana posted:

I have a weird issue, I'm playing as Duke of Sicily from the earliest start date, so I'm a vassal to Byzantium. My first ruler died and everything inherited to my son, my new ruler has a son but the duchy is going to be inherited by the Emperor. I have the right laws for things to pass to my primary heir so I don't understand why this is happening. Any help to stop this happening?

Strudel Man posted:

Hah, why does this even exist. Apparently you can actually recover from Great Pox/syphilis - the event for it just has a MTTH of two thousand years.

Though fortunately, if you're fantastically healthy despite the syphilis (probably because you're immortal), there's a reduction to a mere 500 years.

Sky Shadowing posted:

You have doomed yourself. Too much blood has been shed to the volcano god. It will now erupt and destroy you all.

Josef bugman posted:

BTW guys, is Jade Dragon any good?

I mean I don't think it seems to be worth £10.00

Crow Jane posted:

Caved and bought Jade Dragon last night, what's a good start on the Eastern edge of the map? Started a game as a Tibetan vassal in the Charlie start, but I'm not like, married to it

TaurusTorus posted:

Goddamnit incapable emperor just die, you're so out of it your son doodles dicks on your forehead when you hold court, you can't talk to china, you can't do poo poo without your council's say so. It's been YEARS, let go.

He can, however, write a book.

Napoleon Bonaparty posted:

Anybody got advice for getting a 700s Afghan Zun start rolling? I tried for a couple of hours last night and kept getting crushed by gavelkind plots and holy wars. I've got my chancellor in baghdad, I'm eating up the little counties but eventually I'm surrounded by abbasid tributaries and a 4k stack comes by and crushes me.

ZombieLenin posted:

Can you only reform the Roman Empire as Byzantium? Got this achievement along time ago, but am playing an HRE game and am curious if the HRE can reform.

Jedit posted:

The exception is Buddhists, who still only have their monastic society. It's a really good society for them due to the Learning boost, but unfortunately it's just as hard to progress in as the Western monastics and you also have to be the right caste. I managed to become leader, but only with a sequence of four or five murders that took me 20+ years to get into position for. I'd never have managed it if I weren't immortal.

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religion_group = christian
religion_group = muslim
religion_group = zoroastrian_group
religion_group = jewish_group

DJ Dizzy posted:

Which DLCs are basically required to enjoy this game, and which ones can I comfortably skip?

I am hella PEEVED posted:

Here's my list, some people will disagree here and there. If I get yelled at enough, I'll happily update it so at least there's an easy to point to post for this winter sale.

Must Have:

• Way of Life - Adds a bunch of options and events. Party all the time with your vassals, be a grognard wargamer, get a dog, lose all your money investing in bitcoins some artisans, get the Necronomicon, duel your shithead son.
  
• Conclave - Gives your vassals and council some teeth and makes you actually manage them. Also changes childhood education so your dynastic eugenics program isn't popping out strong geniuses for eternity. Steam users really dislike this expansion, but most of the "annoying" changes were included in the patch alongside this DLC and got fixed later.
  

Pretty Good: - Still worth it, even off-sale, but aren't vital.

• Reaper's Due - Fills out the disease system. Hire a doctor to cut your face off to cure the flu. Build hospitals, which give you a chance of maybe not losing everyone to the Black Death. Also, become immortal, reincarnated, or try to cheat death in a game of chess.
  
• The Old Gods - Play as Vikings (and other Pagans). Also unlocks 867 as a start date, which is a good start date.
  

Play As X: - Wait for a sale to hit. Most aren't super vital, but do add depth and give you some other things to do.

• Sword of Islam - Play as Muslims.
  
• The Republic - Play as Merchant Republics (if you do plan on this, make sure to have Legacy of Rome as well, as Retinues are very helpful)
  
• Sons of Abraham - Adds playable Jewish Leaders, Pope mechanics and adds events for all 3 of the Abrahamic religions.
  
• Rajas of India - Play as India. Way better with this last patch now that Tibet exists.
  
• Horse Lords - Play as Nomads. Become figurative Genghis Khan. Also adds in the Silk Road, if you play in the East and don't have Jade Dragon. Can also conquer tributaries, so you can bully smaller neighbors for their ducats and not have to deal with them as vassals.
  

Buy It On Sale Only

• Legacy of Rome - Adds in Retinues, which are a standing army and pretty good (especially for Merchant Republics). Can mend the great schism and restore the Roman Empire. Adds some Byzantine events. Retinues are really good and almost push this to "Pretty Good".
  
• Sunset Invasion - The Aztecs invade the west. Basically the Mongol Horde, but for the British Isles and Mainland Europe. I like it, but totally skipable.
  
• Charlemagne - Start in 769. You will end up with giant blobs owned by giant empires with this start date. Adds Viceroyalties, Custom Kingdoms & Empires. Playing as Charlemagne is fun and it has custom events. Beyond that, not super important.
  
• Monks and Mystics - Can be very lacking depending on what religion you play as. Most will have maybe 1 or 2 secret societies, and they are basically all clones of each other. Can also secretly convert to religions. Your courtiers can do this to, and its basically a virus in your kingdom, so make sure you are burning heretics as if they were a new fuel source. Adds a couple of new counselor missions. Highlights include getting a gun and praying to Satan to restore the balls your physician cut off to cure a bellyache.
  
• Jade Dragon - This just came out. Allows you to interact with China, which is an off map power. The stuff you get from China is super strong. Updates the silk road as well. Also, adds new Casus Belli, which make expanding as Catholics (and everyone else, but especially Catholics) easier. It Does lead to a lot of unpretty borders and blobs though. The option can be turned off; however. Only really worth it if you are playing East of the Byzantines. Its also a newer DLC and thus, $15.
  

Assorted Stuff (Mostly stuff that should be in the base game, please only buy on sale)

• Ruler Designer - Not really vital and you cant use it to get achievements. Get this on sale, maybe.
  
• Customization Pack - Change your leaders haircut, shield, kingdom, and dynasty name. Slightly more worth it than Ruler designer, but still sale only.
  
• Unit/Portrait/Shield/Music Packs - There used to be separate packs that came out alongside DLCs. Combining them is nice, I guess. I'd rank them as Music > Portrait > Shield > Unit.
  
• EUIV Converter - Do you play EU4 and want to continue to there? Can be some delay with getting this updated if a DLC makes a big change. Not worth it otherwise.
  

E-Books
No. You get no in-game content, its just e-books. Read the thread, there are plenty of short stories here.

TL;DR The DLC you should own are: Way of Life, Conclave, Reaper's Due, The Old Gods. Those, plus the base game comes out to $33.95 USD while on sale. If you don't mind spending another $4.99 I would also pick up The Sword of Islam, which brings the grand total up to $38.94 USD. You'll have most of the leaders available to start as and have plenty of content to try out.

EDIT: Swapped around Old Gods & Sons of Abraham. Added tl;dr section.

SlothfulCobra posted:

Hellenism has been dead and gone for centuries by the earliest start.

Xinder posted:

please

please just stop

Gantolandon posted:

I hate you. I hate you so much. Why won't you die already?

Pakled posted:

God might not look upon you unfavorably, but other people might. I dunno, maybe situations like that warrant a different trait to indicate you "chose God over family" which gives you a kinslayer-sized opinion penalty with most people but a bonus with same trait or zealous co-religionists.

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

New dev diary for a pretty border mechanic

Napoleon Bonaparty posted:

I wonder what happens if they're your provinces, is that what the independent peasant thing is about? I hope you get CBs for the chance to have the land back.

Tehan posted:

GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:

Has anyone ever gotten a good trait from mystic healing? I've gotten stuff like cruel and paranoid, which I think is pretty funny, but I wonder if you had a mystic with like 20+ learning if you could get shrewd or something like that.

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lists of people you’ve killed

Crow Jane posted:

The one time I completed the immortality chain, it was with a guy who got castrated mid-event. He already had a couple kids, so I stuck with it, but after a while it got really boring and I started rushing into stupid wars and taking the nuclear option for every medical issue, no matter how small, in the hopes that someone or something would kill the drat lich so his great-great-great-great-great-great grandson could take over, but nothing did. Dude was just a torso by the end date, and I took a long break from CK2.

Honky Dong Country posted:

I can't describe how jealous I am of this. The one time I successfully got an immortal it was within the last century of the game.

Goon Danton posted:

until the DLC drops so I can reform the new cool way

Orv posted:

The second step is playing some Zoroastrians.

Orv posted:

What I should recommend Semien?

Jedit posted:

The Mark of Zoro makes you mainly immune to inbreeding penalties, doesn't it?

Torrannor posted:

Once I get around to play the Byzantines in Holy Fury, I will try to blind every doge of Venice!

Kaza42 posted:

Since you tend to want to keep your gates closed when a disease is adjacent to your capital

Willfrey posted:

Man, anybody else getting a bunch of chaplains going heretic? I have had 4 convert in my past 3 rulers, annoying since my previous 2 chaplains were over 20 in learning and were my physicians while my ruler had the pox

binge crotching posted:

Go with whatever your stat is that makes the highest breakpoint, because even if you end up with a fraud, if your stats are high enough it makes the fraud less likely to fail anyway.