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Who is the man??
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Goku 202 7.09%
Vegeta 279 9.79%
Krillin 208 7.30%
Piccolo or his nameks 212 7.44%
Gohan or Cool Gohan 135 4.74%
Yamcha 90 3.16%
Tien 120 4.21%
Muten Roshi 89 3.12%
Tao Pai Pai 71 2.49%
Frieza 69 2.42%
Cell or an android 86 3.02%
Buu 62 2.18%
Hercule "Mark" Satan 327 11.48%
Videl 90 3.16%
Bulma 104 3.65%
Yajirobe 99 3.47%
Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy 68 2.39%
King kai or another kai 53 1.86%
Chi-Chi 83 2.91%
Goten 43 1.51%
Trunks or Cool Trunks 112 3.93%
Bardock 48 1.68%
Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) 41 1.44%
Uub 42 1.47%
Oolong 90 3.16%
Zamasu 26 0.91%
Total: 1326 votes
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Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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Manatee Cannon posted:

eh, I'd say he's probably the worst dad in dbz by default. what little you see of krillin makes him out to dote on his daughter and spend a lot of time with her, satan seems overbearing but at least he's always around for videl, and then you have vegeta who wins out by never throwing his kid at the monster of the week. like in the buu saga the last thing he does before dying is hug his son and then send him and goten away because he doesn't want them to die, gets mad at goku for saving mr satan instead of their kids, and he tries to get gotenks not to attack berus as well. goku, on the other hand, was watching from the sidelines as gohan and gotenks get thrashed. :v: goku's not trying to be a bad dad tho; he's just dumb as a brick


I think you may be forgetting the part where Vegeta beats the crap out of his son so he couldn't stop Semi-Perfect Cell from becoming perfect, which is pretty lovely and bad.

he also had a multi-year stint abandoning his family to go training.


really vegeta and goku are incredibly similar when you get right down to it.

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Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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The Ninth Layer posted:

Mr. Buu's body count isn't that high.

Because he turned most of them into candy and ate them?

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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Kild posted:

They presumably all drank from the fountain of youth or whatever.

Still don't get why Bulma never tracked that poo poo down, patented it and made a killing.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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Manatee Cannon posted:

wow I didn't realize xenoverse 2 was out already. is it any good?

the same but a lot more and slightly better than 1 basically.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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zelah posted:

Wait. Was Trunks born without a tail? Was Goten?

tail circumcision is a touchy subject okay

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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Manatee Cannon posted:

what kind of game is it anyway? like a turn based jrpg? I never really understood what it was outside of the fusion gimmick

Yeah, with a field bit like a game of marbles. Basically everyone fights in teams of five and you can knock people into enemies to scatter them or you own dudes to kick then into other dudes to do more damage. You can also knock them out of the arena and if you do this when you KO them you get to learn their moves after the battle.

Its fun.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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Blaze Dragon posted:

Goku outright tells them not to fuse because Gotenks would still not be enough to help.

Uub asks to fuse with someone, anyone, just to get enough power to help. Gohan tells him he's too wounded and he should wait until he's healed. Absolutely nothing comes out of it.

It took until Heroes for GT Gotenks to actually appear. We're still waiting on that Majuub/Gohan fusion. Not even Fusions let Uub fuse.

Fusions not letting Uub or Nail fuse is the absolute worst decision that game makes.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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ImpAtom posted:

I think they can still fuse with the main character or something?

Yeah, every character can. Except Vegito.

The issue is every other character that doesn't get a unique fusion, mostly poo poo like 'Super Saiyan Gohan (kid)' which is just a variant of regular Gohan permanently in Super Saiyan, is way the hell better than those two. Fusing your MC with them will make it weaker.

Also there are like 100 OC do not steal characters who have a minimum of 4 unique fusions with the other dumb OC characters so Nail and Uub really stick out.

Zore fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Dec 14, 2016

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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At the end of the video they hint at Beerus and say "get ready for number five" over a whole bunch of Beerus clips.

Personally, I'm guessing

1) Freiza, 2) King Piccolo, 3) Vegeta, 4) Cell, 5) Beerus

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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-Fish- posted:

I just realized that Cell is a Saiyan who has a tail, and could theoretically become an Oozaru? How dope would his Oozaru form look?

Wouldn't it just be green Hirudegarn?

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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HitTheTargets posted:

Buu has yet to contact the mother of his reborn father-self-son-brother.

Bibidi? Good dad. Go figure, right?

Garlic Sr. is the only dad in the series to make sure his son was brought up right; when you have the Dragon Balls just wish for immortality immediately.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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Manatee Cannon posted:

at this point, anyone that isn't human could clown future gohan. super saiyan isn't that impressive anymore unless you're krillin or tien or w/e

Considering he lost to weaker versions of the androids I'm willing to be even Krillin and Tien could give him a serious run for his money.

Probably not win but fight in the same ballpark.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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Calaveron posted:

Wasn't the guy who came up with Virus the ame who did for Broly?

No, I think the Broly dude just had a hilarious meltdown over how Beerus was a bad villain and Broly was stronger because of muscles.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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ImpAtom posted:

I'm pretty sure the person who is going to get eliminated in the first episode to show how strong the opponents are is Hit. Like that dude is basically hosed, he's going to get knocked out by Jiren the Grey in under a second. Some of the other Crappy Champa Guys and probably the wolf men too.

Also buff Buu. I'm pretty sure its contractual that he isn't allowed to do literally anything.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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Rutibex posted:

Are the animal people one monolithic species? I would assume that dog-men can't breed with pig-men

Its unclear.

On one hand you have Oolong, but then there's also Turtle. Does he count as a smart animal or an animal person.

And who even knows what is going on with Puar.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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Ekusukariba posted:

I miss the days when Abridged was a separate thing

You say about a series where a major character won a fight because halfway through he realized he's drawn without a nose so his opponent's gimmick stops working.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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sassassin posted:

Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball GT and Dragonball Super are all different shows with distinct tones.

It was a comment on a DLC character in a video game that has characters from all eras of Dragon Ball.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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PMush Perfect posted:

Goku has probably also never even seen a diaper, much less changed one.

Vegeta abandoned his family after Bulma got pregnant with Trunks so he could try to become a super saiyan. Goku quit fighting for years so he could raise Gohan.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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Condiv posted:

uh, he's deffo intentionally neglectful. i mean he chose to stay dead while his sons grew up without him cause ???

Because he thought being alive was causing a bunch of issues considering the Androids and Cell uh killed the world because of him in the original timeline.

And the day he decides to come for a visit he makes Vegeta so mad that Buu is unleashed.

I don't know if he was necessarily wrong there.


Also considering most of Super people would probably be better off if he had stayed dead!

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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ImpAtom posted:

Gohan does not want to be his dad. He's coming to understand parts of him but at the end of the day Gohan wants to go home and be a salary man and spend time with his daughter and maybe be a goofy posing superhero. That is his ideal life and it is fine. He's a Saiyan and so he's got some fightblood in him but you see the same thing happening to Vegeta, who was legitimately willing to give up a chance for a big fight to spend time with his newborn daughter.

I mean, so did Goku? He spent several years not fighting when Gohan was an infant and spent time with him.

And Vegeta and Goku both abandoned their other child in infancy for dumb fightman reasons.

Zore fucked around with this message at 04:08 on May 6, 2017

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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Momomo posted:

Frieza is the only character Toriyama thinks has no good qualities, so I really don't think we're getting any sort of redemption from him.


If they were staying true to DBZ this would not be strange at all

Gohan is 50/50 on new forms mattering. SSJ2 v Cell obviously did and Mystic v Buu was a huge wet fart.

Which is roughly as good as Goku considering how SSJ3, SSG, and Vegito turned out.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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Or he could chain blow himself up. That got him a rather significant power boost.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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it depends on if he aged during the 8 or so years he cumulatively spent dead and how we count the years spent in the hyperbolic time chamber.

You could make an argument for anything from early 30's to late 40's probably.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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Raxivace posted:

Does Dragon Ball count as one of these "isekai" stories since Goku is an alien from another planet? Or is it just reserved for stuff like ReZero and Grimgar and so on?

No, its explicitly when someone from the real world gets taken to some kind of other world through some kind of reincarnation/magic/VR etc.

Now I kinda want to write a short story where a wizard from a fantasy world ends up on Earth, which works just like his magic video games and he conquers America with his working knowledge of nuclear weapons.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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Babe Magnet posted:

he's not even in either game

probably one of the more important characters story-wise and the best you got is you can wear his pants

Yeah, its absolutely bizarre considering they put in loving Eis Shenron and 7 different Gokus.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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RBX posted:

What's so special about Dabura?

He's the older brother of the main villain in Xenoverse.

Other than that nothing really.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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The most shocking part of those spoilers

The loving Destructo Disc actually works.

Though its really lame Krillin gets DQ'd so early.

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Zore
Sep 21, 2010
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TrilliontonNixon posted:

Isn't ki just life force? Seems pretty weird to be able to measure something like that. "Your soul has 9001 strength points."

People have been doing rough measures of how powerful someone is by sensing ki as far back as Dragon Ball.

Like even without hard power levels you always have Krillin or whoever chiming in about 'holy poo poo, that ki signature is bigger than Goku as a Super Saiyan!!!'

Also Ki lets you fly and shoot lasers so its clearly not just life force.

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