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Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

THC posted:

https://twitter.com/DonMartinCTV/status/720316071631273984

He's such a piece of poo poo oh my god.

To quote Tom Mulcair on his day back in question period:

quote:

"The Liberals swore they would be different, but they keep finding novel ways of being the Liberals."

Libs gonna lib.

e:

Alberta toddler's final days before meningitis death

quote:

(...)
First signs of trouble

According to the report, Ezekiel's mother told the doctor the last time he appeared "completely well" was more than two weeks earlier, on Feb. 26, at the family's acreage in Cardston county, south of Lethbridge.

On Feb. 27, Ezekiel "developed a fever and was whining a lot," the report reads.

The parents told the physician they initially thought he was simply teething but then, later that day, they noticed he had developed laboured and "whistly/wheezy" breathing.

The couple phoned a family friend whom they described to the physician as a registered nurse and Ezekiel's birth attendant. Listening to the child's breathing over the phone, the friend suggested it sounded like he had croup.

"Collet subsequently looked croup up on the internet and saw that it was a viral infection and that the only medical treatment typically offered was a dose of steroids if it was severe," the physician's report reads.

"As per the internet suggestions, they treated Ezekiel's breathing difficulty with cool air and a humidifier. They also started Ezekiel on some herbal/naturopathic remedies which they believe help fight off viral infections and have given Ezekiel in the past when he has a cold.

(...)

Body stiffness worsens

By March 12, the stiffness was so severe that Ezekiel's "back was arched" and his parents called their family friend again, who came over to examine the boy with a stethoscope.

"According to Collet, their friend concluded that Ezekiel's symptoms could be from meningitis," the physician's report reads.

"Collet then looked up meningitis on the internet; specifically she mentioned looking at the WebMD website. She came across the Kernig and Brudzinski's test for meningismus and tried them on Ezekiel. She reports the tests were obviously positive, further indicating to her that Ezekiel was suffering from meningitis."

Ezekiel's parents then resumed the treatment with olive leaf extract, garlic and methylsulfonylmethane and used the eye-dropper method to ensure he received enough fluids, as "he would not drink on his own," the report reads. They also started giving him Total Reload, an electrolyte and amino-acid supplement.

Within two hours, "they felt he'd had some improvement and was less lethargic."

"They called their naturopath in Lethbridge to ask for recommendations for treating viral meningitis and were advised to start him on something called BLAST," the report states.
(...)

Is it true that the Internet makes you stupid, or do stupid people blindly trust everything on the Internet?

Jan fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Apr 13, 2016

# ¿ Apr 13, 2016 20:22

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Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

brucio posted:

This would have more bite if Mulcair didn't support the sale during the election campaign.

I used the quote out of context -- it was about the federal justice minister attending a fancy fundraiser on Bay street.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2016 23:43

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Newfie posted:

It really is as bad a people are saying. A good overview is here http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/nl-budget-bad-news-1.3535718

I wish I could point and laugh at them, Alberta or Saskatchewan for squandering oil royalties when the going was good, but I'm pretty sure Quebec/Ontario would've done just as badly if they'd happened to be the petroprovinces. :downs:

# ¿ Apr 17, 2016 17:00

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Here we go again! How many pages of PT6A are we getting this time? :yum:

# ¿ Apr 18, 2016 22:49

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

In Montreal, there's been a newcomer in the taxi scene. Teo Taxi basically uses only electric vehicles, they have a smartphone app like Uber's, their drivers are paid a fair wage, wear a uniform and are courteous. No talking on the phone, no driving like a maniac for their next fare. The cars themselves have wi-fi, are always spotless and apparently they're planning to roll out touch screens for the passengers. And unlike Uber, they do have insurance and they comply to the local taxi license scheme (by renting them). Despite all of these horribly expensive measures that Uber just couldn't possibly afford, it turns out that they're actually breaking even!

You can compete and innovate without acting a bag of dicks, yeah.

# ¿ Apr 19, 2016 18:01

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

flakeloaf posted:

A private member's bill in Queen's Park to undo the dog breed ban is picking up steam

Picking up steam... in 2012! :nallears:

# ¿ Apr 19, 2016 20:26

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

flakeloaf posted:

Might just be a tweet not completely capturing the situation. HuffPo says they voted to keep gay marriage? I'm confused.

The tweet quoted was about the income splitting part of the motion.

The HuffPo article seems to be about adding the marriage part to Saturday's plenary for a full vote or whatever.

Goddamn, Twitter is the worst form of communication.

# ¿ May 27, 2016 22:28

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

bunnyofdoom posted:

How the gently caress are all the votes at cpc only like 300 delegates? Even in 2012 we had 4 digits

I think that's the point of the plenary -- this is just setting up the agenda for the big issues, and the plenary is a full scale vote.

Jan fucked around with this message at 22:43 on May 27, 2016

# ¿ May 27, 2016 22:35

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

PT6A posted:

And on a police car, something that it's very important for everyone to be able to identify?

You don't need text to identify police cars, just listen for the sound of your civil rights being crushed in so many pieces.

e: Or look for hot pink camo pants. :haw:

# ¿ Jun 9, 2016 21:20

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Which of you guys's parody account is this?

https://twitter.com/CalgarySenate/status/743664190431211521

# ¿ Jun 17, 2016 19:39

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Aagar posted:

I often wonder if we could get around it by issuing minimum sentences and making parole and extremely high hurdle to get over.

ConservativePartyPlatform.txt

# ¿ Aug 16, 2016 21:00

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

ChickenWing posted:

Yeah I think in the mind of Joe Average, no matter the restrictions on your life once paroled, you are still out in the world rather than locked behind bars. No matter how small the risk to reoffend, that's still a risk that didn't apply to you when the person was in jail.

Well, yes.

quote:

Restrictions of his parole include the conditions that he does not consume alcohol or drugs, follows his treatment plan, not use pornography, stay away from any college or university campus, avoid his victims, and respect curfew. He also must not pick up or drive any female passengers in a car or use computers or the internet.

As Jane Average, none of these measures would make me feel safer if I knew this guy lived close to me. No matter how low the odds of it happening to me personally, I would rather not get raped by someone who was previously convicted of the same offense and recidivated after he pinky promised! not to.

# ¿ Aug 16, 2016 21:25

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

A Typical Goon posted:

Well then I guess it sucks for you that we can't keep people locked up forever because it offends your middle class sensibilities that you might be minisculely less safe

It might not happen to me, but there's a "moderate-to-high risk" that it'll happen to someone.

As much as I believe in the criminal justice system being about rehabilitation, it's not "middle class sensibilities" to realise that some people are beyond rehabilitation.

# ¿ Aug 16, 2016 21:57

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

CLAM DOWN posted:

My car does not have Bluetooth, only a 3.5mm jack, and playing with my phone while driving (to pause, skip, etc) is illegal and dangerous. And CBC Radio 2 has no commercials and nice music in the morning.

Maybe you could afford a nice car if you didn't spend so much on gems. :haw:

# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 17:12

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

MA-Horus posted:

Ban assholes from owning dogges. Don't ban dogges.

They're also doing this. Dog owners with criminal backgrounds and/or a history of training their dogs for aggression will actually be filed and tracked as opposed to just forgetting about them and slipping through the cracks. In one of the cases that spurred this legislation, the pitbull had previously attacked people and the owner also happened to be a petty thug with a history of violence and anger management issues.

Problem is, given the municipal nature of this bill, negligent owners can just leave Montreal with their murderous pitbull where it can happily chomp off some suburban kid's face.

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 16:13

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

TrueChaos posted:

Maybe we should actually listen to the professionals on this one? The ontario veterinary medical association is firmly on the side of breed specific legislation doesn't work.

Ah, yes, the OVMA, an unbiased association who is completely free of influence from the millionaire pitbull lobby.

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 18:20

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

infernal machines posted:

What?

National Canine Research Council
Animal Farm Foundation

There are organizations dedicated to pumping out "research" to demonstrate that pitbulls are safe, and the people behind these organizations are pumping in considerable amounts of money. While it's healthy to consider both sides of a debate, the resources invested are far greater than that of the victims associations. Those studies have a clear conflict of interest and are essentially just adding noise to the debate. The Quebec veterinary medical association filed a report advising against breed-specific laws, but their report was citing a few papers with obvious bias so they had to backtrack on those.

I'm not saying BSL works, I'm saying there are considerable amounts of politics and money involved behind the pro-pitbull side.

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 18:35

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

namaste faggots posted:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-genetically-modified-food-1.3796869

lol canadians smh

Just label all the GMOs and let the consumers choose when the non-GMOs are 1.5x-2x as expensive due to not being sustainable in a modern environment. :q:

# ¿ Oct 10, 2016 05:42

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Risky Bisquick posted:

Don't get me started on people using phones while driving, I'd record people and submit the videos to the police if they would actually charge people.

Maybe you should! It probably depends on the cop, and this is basically hearsay, but apparently someone here got narrowly passed, violating the 1 metre passing rule. They gave their bike mounted camera footage to the police and the police are sending the nice driver a ticket.

http://www.espaces.ca/articles/actualites/2205-chauffard-filme-finie-limpunite

# ¿ Oct 13, 2016 17:22

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

namaste faggots posted:

also, ban film industry subsidies by the provinces. if you're working class white trash, tough poo poo go and eat dirt motherfucker

but if we stop subsidizing media, what's going to be left of our GDP besides natural resources and finance

# ¿ Oct 18, 2016 02:43

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

CLAM DOWN posted:

I agree, vaccines are dumb and pointless and wifi is murdering us all slowly and painfully.

I would rather have a government running on the Green's platform, along with the naturalist homeopathic fringe, than a government running on the Liberal platform, along with the disguised conservative lying sack of poo poo fringe.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2016 19:58

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Furnaceface posted:

We are going to see the left split (again) arent we? I cant see the NDP staying in its current state for long before people start to bail, either to create the centrist party of their dreams or run on an actual leftist platform.

Why would they? The NDP centrists will just flock back to the LPC and the NDP will revert to fringe party status.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2016 21:22

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

PT6A posted:

It's also worth noting that, given the Green Party is full of morons and crazy people, the message to the other parties isn't "be more left wing" when you vote for them, it's "there's an imbecile who can probably never be reached because their brain is bad and broken." None of the other parties want to go fishing in that pond, for obvious reasons.

This is like saying conservatives who vote for the CPC because of their political platform have bad and broken brains because that party is full of morons and crazy people who are anti-abortion and anti-LGBT rights. Just because you disagree with some fringe elements of a party doesn't mean you disagree with the entire platform. Please point me to the GPC platform point that suggests banning vaccines and wifi.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2016 23:28

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

infernal machines posted:

...and for the second time in only 30 years America finds itself with an addle-brained actor with his finger on the button.

And since no one uses print media anymore, the archaeologists of the post-nuclear winter Earth of 2980 won't be able to know that that the event that precipitated total nuclear war was something called a "tweet" from the ruler of a different nation that said, "Trump is a power addled maniac".

# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 01:09

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

OSI bean dip posted:

The death of progressivism will be by the left and not the right. Those in rural areas have lost a lot in the past decade in terms of jobs and way of life and nothing has done to help them other than "if we do this then in 30 years we'll be back to where we need to be" when in reality the jobs have been lost in a third of that time. If the left does nothing to address this then the racist and bigoted manifestations that come from not living in diverse areas will become dominant.

This is the real fundamental problem. Lots of rural jobs have simply been deprecated out of existence, and it's far easier for the people who once held these jobs to blame it on what they don't know (i.e.: immigrants and intellectual elites in their ivory tower) than to understand that these jobs aren't necessary anymore. So of course, Trump promising to bring back all those jobs (nevermind the lack of viability for these jobs in the first place).

The world needs to evolve away from this fixation on jobs being a central part of one's identity and life. Who knows what the post-industrial world looks like, quite possibly it implies basic income. Incidentally, this rural crowd would be too proud to accept these "government handouts".

Maybe education might help them see that the world is evolving and that it's not the fault of minorities. But that'd be drinking the kool-aid of the filthy elites.

More likely we can only wait until rural regions slowly die out.

# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 17:03

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Postess with the Mostest posted:

Rural people don't want to live condo to cubicle. As backwards as you think they are, they feel just as strongly. Their contempt isn't towards minorities, it's towards city people which I think is completely justified if your post is at all representative.

Yes, the city people who embody things like "allowing men into women's bathrooms", "blacks running amok in the streets", "muslim terorrists killing hundreds" or "those gays marrying and spreading AIDS like wildfire". The rural way of life is slowly dying, it's not that way of life that is backwards, it's the "us vs them" reaction to that way of life dying out and all the ugliness that comes with it. What I was describing in my post isn't contempt or backwardsness, but rather the impossibility of sitting the two solitudes of city and rural life at the same table to try and work things out.

Why do you think it's so impossible to form a government that appeals to both? Because any attempt to favour one "side" inevitably leads to the other feeling neglected.

# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 17:38

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

TheKingofSprings posted:

One saving grace of rural areas is that agriculture is a job that will never become obsolete or redundant (but may become outcompeted if a large enough entity seems profit to be made in simply producing the wheat, canola, etc. for their own products themselves, margins are thin enough as it is and haven't improved much for farmers in decades).

I am pretty sure that urban agriculture of all kinds is a thing that is being actively researched and worked on. It might not supplant rural agriculture as much as complement it, but expect an increasing amount of rooftop high density hydroponic farms accounting for a significant portion of production.

# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 17:56

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

infernal machines posted:

No you see there's the bizarre assumption that if you support and intend to vote for a candidate whose entire campaign platform is based on an explicitly racist message, and repeatedly makes explicitly racist comments to the press and public, and is openly supported by Klansman, that you too might be a racist.

Now obviously that's unfair.

No, but you see, I don't agree with his sexist or racist comments. I'm not racist, I have black friends. But I agree with his stance on jobs and NAFTA, so it's totally okay to overlook the other part and waggle a stern finger if he does put in place racist and sexist measures.

vvvvv
:ssh:

# ¿ Nov 10, 2016 19:54

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

rawrr posted:

What it seems to be overlooking is the notion that a job is a source of identity and dignity;

And this is a recent fabrication from the Industrial revolution that has since been drilled into us for so long that we're conditioned to believe it. Switch the emphasis on your quote to the proper location:

quote:

People ~~want a good job~~ to provide for themselves and their families so that they can, you know, have education for their kids, healthcare for their family, a better future.

Providing for our progeny is something that's been drilled into us for far longer. The simple fact of the matter is we will run out of jobs as a means to this end and need to start paving the way for the next thing.

# ¿ Nov 12, 2016 14:29

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Helsing posted:

I kind of agree with most of this, except:

Helsing posted:

(...) the sitting President who made such a mess of his two terms in office (...)

And what did you expect him to do when dealing with an openly rebellious Congress who swore up and down they'd veto any significant changes he tried to enact? Usually with no better reason than "It's Obama's idea"?

# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 21:36

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

apatheticman posted:

No he was probated then banned

Not permabanned, though. You know he'll be back.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2016 18:19

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Landsknecht posted:

I'm by no means rich, but since I've been using up my tuition tax credits, and maxing out RRSP contributions, I've found it very easy to get large income tax refunds; next march I'll probably get around 5k

Look at this 1%er who has revenue to spare to max out RRSP contributions.

# ¿ Nov 21, 2016 19:22

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Subjunctive posted:

No, they're planning to burn it still in 2030 and indefinitely afterwards, not that they're planning to stop burning it in 2030.

It's okay, we can just watch and learn from our southern neighbours once they start creating thousands of jobs around clean coal.

# ¿ Nov 21, 2016 23:04

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

yellowcar posted:

too much face and not enough head

Actually, he gets plenty of that at home.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2016 01:23

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

cowofwar posted:

Go to a butcher and buy some prime rib. Rinse it, dry it, let it to com to room temp and then dry rub it with steak spice. Place on rack in pan, oven sear 450 then drop to 275 and cook until internal temp is 5 degrees below desired temp. Remove. Rest for 15 minutes.

Actually, you get a juicier roast if you cook, rest and then sear. :eng101:

# ¿ Nov 25, 2016 20:01

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

It's clearly the work of Black Bloc agitators infiltrating the Native protests with IEDs. This is what I read on the police twitter account.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2016 21:43

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Dreylad posted:

Ontario Auditor General's report is out. Highlights from the Toronto Star so far

This would read the same after a s/Ontario/Quebec/g.

Can we stop saying Quebec is corrupt and inefficient? We hardly have a monopoly on this.

# ¿ Nov 30, 2016 19:11

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

namaste faggots posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/5g3z5y/whats_your_secret_to_living_here/

i loving love this thread. tldr, some poo poo heel makes 35k/year working in the ~movies~ and is wondering how people can live in vancouver. everyone is telling him to get out loooooool

quote:

It will take me 15 - 20 years to save enough for a down payment on a house costing $300,000....

But at least he has his Canadian Priorities straight -- gotta have that overpriced house!

(where the gently caress is he going to find a house costing $300,000 in Vancouver?)

# ¿ Dec 2, 2016 21:20

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Furnaceface posted:

If we do go Saints Row, can I nominate CI for The Boss?

I'm pretty sure he's already Johnny Gat IRL.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2016 01:26

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# ¿ May 18, 2024 20:08

Jan: Feb 27, 2008; The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Count Roland posted:

Holy poo poo. My monthly pass is 82, even that feels high.

Come now, you can't be that sheltered as to live in Montreal and not realise we have it way better off than practically any other public transit system in the world? And it's been up to $83 now, by the way.

# ¿ Dec 19, 2016 03:01

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