MC Eating Disorder posted:

Huh, any info why? Haven't heard anything about this at all

MC Eating Disorder posted:

I meant proof that it's actually happening rather than rumours but yeah my Facebook has picked up on this and it's been listed on a commercial real estate website so gently caress

http://www.commercialrealestate.com.au/property/52-costin-street-fortitude-valley-qld-4006-2012618725

Senor Tron posted:

I understand why plenty of people get frustrated at anyone who cheats the system, but it's frustrating that they allow those frustrations to guide their thinking to advocation of Victorian era poor houses rather than increased support systems to help the large group truly stuck in a cycle of poverty.

iajanus posted:

Queensland worst state, as ever.

toe shoes posted:

Just because Queensland may be being a bit less poo poo doesn't mean it still can't hold the title of worst state. A PB while coming last is still last.

Negligent posted:

Australia's airstrike capability exists mainly so that when America bombs some brown people they can say it's OK because other white people are doing it too.

Like that's an oversimplification obviously but RAAF pilots are already flying American drones in Syria. Just a matter of time using Reapers against refugee boats becomes a cool and good policy in the eyes of Australians.

open24hours posted:

Why are people resigning from Queensland Labor?

EvilElmo posted:

Just when they replace retiring females with males.. oh.. wait..

When they sell out their core vales.. oh wait..

When they forget their roots in environmentalism unionism in the pursuit of wider electoral engagement.. oh wait..

Good to see you're becoming the party you hate.

Anidav posted:

Rob Pyne's resignation shows North Queensland is a state of mind

One of the mistakes of our federation is that North Queensland is not a separate state. Politicians from north of Capricorn have long complained about the neglect of tropical Queensland by Brisbane-based governments.

Last week former Labor MP now independent Member for Cairns Rob Pyne complained that: "Far north Queensland has been the victim of historic neglect over recent years...We have double digit unemployment and youth unemployment of over 20 per cent, and we are badly in need of state funding for important infrastructure, like our local schools."

Nothing new here. In 1948 the redoubtable Tommy Aikens, the Independent member for Mundingburra (1944-1977), complained that "…in North Queensland working-class families of long standing are preparing to leave the North and its long slack period unemployment, and migrate to Brisbane with its near-permanence of employment and abundant and varied recreation during the long week-ends".

Indeed, how can the leaders of the Queensland government, ensconced in the outer urban Struggle Street seat of Inala, and the inner urban Uber-connected seat South Brisbane, understand the needs of provincial city electorates in the tropics, "a thousand miles away"?

History tells us that long serving, successful premiers in Queensland are those who come from the north. 'Red Ted' Theodore, premier 1919-25 came from Chillagoe; William Forgan Smith, premier 1932-42, was the member for Mackay, Peter Beattie, premier 1998-2007, was raised in Atherton.

History also tells us that northern Independents have longevity. Aikens was a railwayman elected in the state seat of Mundingburra (later Townsville South) in 1944, who held the seat until 1977. He founded the Hermit Park branch of the ALP in 1940 but was booted by the anti-communist ALP Queensland Central Executive in 1941 for his pro-Soviet views. His branch soon followed, and together they formed the North Queensland Labor Party, successfully contesting the 1944 state poll.

Tommy was a parliamentary rabble rouser. He and Ted Walsh (ALP Bundaberg) went several rounds in the lobby of the Legislative Assembly in 1944. His obituary records that he once told an unnamed premier: "You are so narrow-minded you could look through a keyhole with both eyes."

The "Voice of the North", as he was known, advocated castration for sex offenders long before Russ Hinze's infamous comment was made, criticised militant trade unions, and called on universities to expel students taking part in demonstrations.

While there is no suggestion that former left faction member Pyne shares these views, he does share the North Queensland cargo cult mindset that delivers government goodies not on the basis of need but simply because they are for North Queensland.

Pyne told Brisbane Times last week, "It doesn't matter whether it has been schools in the Cairns electorate, or hospital in Atherton … for far north Queensland. I'll be putting my hand up for the people of Cairns and be a very powerful advocate for my city, and hopefully achieve a number of more significant wins in terms of service and infrastructure".

bowmore posted:

but imagine Queensland as it's own country

Graic Gabtar posted:

Oh no, I'm not paying twice to post in this shithole.

Nice to see auspol taking the standard, 'Don't agree 100% with our opinion? That's because you're loving racist!' stance.

Dropping this as the default option obviously works well with the average punter.

Graic Gabtar posted:

Yes, the answer is obviously not to do nothing and I can't disagree with what you've said. You're assuming though that you can engage enough people to do this or you are just abstracting the problem to a different level to people who aren't really accountable.

In this case the Government is using a blunt instrument to (in their view) minimize harm. Is the alternative to kick down every door in Ceduna to intervene?

Is what they are doing purely to 'keep people down' as frequently gets trotted out here?

EvilElmo posted:

Debate SSM on Thursday. Last sitting day before the budget and likely before the election.

Kind of pointless.

Amusing watching the Greens act like Labor and all the supporters here agreeing with the move. If it was the otherway around would be another example of how horrible, sellout etc. the ALP are.

Wonder how the base will react. Probably wont matter now the Greens have killed off any contenders replacing them as the progressive protest vote. All aboard the ALP lite train.

Starshark posted:

Can't even keep a rabbit in QLD what kind of hellhole state is it.

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Was going to vote for the Greens at the Brisbane City Council Elections this Saturday but now I guess not.

EvilElmo posted:

Zenithe posted:

Being a regular of Brisbane public transport, I wonder why they think this is the most pressing issue.

EvilElmo posted:

The appearance of doing something on public transport, but really just wanting to push it off in to the distance while feasibility studies, study tours and such happen.

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Lol my electorate, perhaps I should volunteer for the Greens this saturday.

EvilElmo posted:

Greens voted against stopping the Senate from rising until a vote on marriage equality takes place.


Disgraceful. Why would the ALP want to point this out?! SCUM!

EvilElmo posted:

Why cant the budget be bought forward? The senate doesnt need to sit for that to happen and the LNP control the lower house so they decide the sitting weeks.

The Government wants the senate reform bill passed thats why they have extended sitting hours and are stopping the senate from rising. They want it done because they want to have it passed for a DD election.

The ABCC would be passed by a joint sitting after the DD. You guys know thats what happens to trigger bills? Thats why even if the Greens are against the bills, they will get passed after a DD.

EvilElmo posted:

Post your watch.

Greens voted with the Liberals to stop a vote on marriage equality last night.

EvilElmo posted:

It is bad reform to fix a problem that doesnt exist for the benefit of 2 political parties. If it was an ALP/LNP benefit the Greens would be angry.

It paves the way for a DD that will enable the LNP push through some bad legislation including killing clean energy finance.

Anidav posted:

4 years seems okay because the recent state governments really do only seem to think short term. Sure risk Springborg but it's a step closer to an upper house with the order scrambled

Anidav posted:

Even with shorter terms we swing like wild and create super majority governments. Queensland is hosed anyway. Regardless of term length. Longer terms would stop stalling public transport infrastructure. We've been meaning to build the cross river rail for ages for example and the LNP wants some tunnel. A longer term may finally break some of these public transport endless stalls and get Queensland building something that isn't apartments and mines.

Anidav posted:

Goonmeets are not about giving poo poo maybe you should keep it in the bathroom

BlindSite posted:

Palmer becoming a ruin has only increased the LNP base whereas the emergence of the Greens as an actual accepted option is only detracting from Labors.

EvilElmo posted:

Wat.

BlindSite posted:

It's not fear mongering hate speech to suggest that it might not be a great idea to take "military age males" en masse from a country known specifically at this point for being a breeding ground for extremist thought and action, a pipeline which a terrorist organisation has specifically said it has used and will used for infiltration of western countries arguably its common sense.

BlindSite posted:

I've seen some retarded jumps of logic in my time but your bullshit takes the cake.

No where in my post did I advocate closed borders, non muslim refugees only or not taking families.

And blaming australia for isis is the most retarded poo poo I've read today.

Maybe you can work chemtrails and lizard people into your next post.

BlindSite posted:

Nah thats cool man. I agree. Australia is the sole cause of islamic extremism. Never mind the literal hundreds of other causes starting with their own home grown bullshit. Its the evil of Australia.

Glad we could clear that up as if it has any impact on anything Id mentioned in my original post.

EvilElmo posted:

Pay cut now. Looks good. In 5 years get a pay rise to make up for all the increases they missed in those years.

This happens all the time.