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One quarter down, three to go, and US Politics ain’t getting any simpler. Between the digging in of heels at a Supreme Court nominee and the wild riotous rallies of Donald Trump, the United States sure seems to be losing its center. But hey, it’s not all bad! The median low income person can no longer afford their median low income housing, food and transportation costs! So sit tight, because before we get to the long, hot summer, we first need to take a wild ride in the USPOL thread for April 2016! 114th Congress Bingo Card You will be unsurprised to learn that Congress has done quite well to uphold their vow to do very little this month, but that doesn’t mean we can’t check in on our favorite branch of government!
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Related threads "US Politics" is an incredibly broad topic, as A) the country is freaking huge and B) given our role in international events pretty much everything impacts us. So there are other subthreads 2016 Presidential Primary 2016 US Senate Elections SCOTUS thread Right Wing Media There are also regional subthreads that are usually pretty slow, but sometimes cross-pollinate with this thread when something important is happening. Pacific Northwest Illinois Texas California Lifted the rest of the above from FriedChicken. As before post suggestions for adding to the above and I'll edit them in if I see them. And remember folks, drink chat goes in D&D chat thread. Drink responsibly. Your liver will thank you. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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Junior G-man posted:I'd say so, yes, but would make a few additions: Those all sound like good suggestions so I'll add them to the OP, except for Fisk, since, in my experience, that's really more appropriate reading for the Middle East thread. Yeah, it contains an indictment of America in the Middle East, but that's only part of a larger thesis.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2016 16:33 |
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haveblue posted:Should also mention in that section how we've realized Cuba doesn't have cooties any more, the President touched them and he's fine. Was meaning to mention his trip last month, but forgot. Sorry.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2016 16:49 |
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On Terra Firma posted:God, gently caress these people. To be fair, going from unemployed to employed but working four part time jobs isn't that much of an improvement.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2016 22:19 |
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In which Vox unironically posts a garbage pro-Trump essay which might just be an April Fool's Day joke three days late. It's hard not to quote the whole thing, but here are some highlights: quote:My name is Pietro "Pete" Calautti. I am 32 years old. If you looked at the demographic data of my parents at the time of my birth — their income, their station in life, their country (and region within) of origin, where they lived, how long they had been in this country, and so on — a pretty reasonable guess as to where I would be right now would be "working in a pizzeria." Instead, I am a PhD student in cinema studies at a major public research institution. quote:Largely defined in opposition to mainstream conservatism and encompassing a wide spectrum of beliefs, some not even close to what would be understood as conservatism in the present day, the alt-right nonetheless started to feel like home, even if it was an umbrella term itself. We knew we had made it when conservative pundit Rick Wilson said we masturbate to anime on an appearance he made on MSNBC. quote:Trump has a realistic shot of breaking the left's stranglehold on the black vote. Black voters are starting to see that they are hurt more than any other demographic group by outsourcing and illegal immigration, and that the left is in the active process of displacing them as a voting bloc and replacing them with the post-1965 immigrant vote. quote:I like that Trump is confrontational. His success depends on it, I would say. quote:The future, not just in America but effectively around the globe, will be defined by globalists and anti-globalists. The neocons can return home to the Democratic Party (being a mutant strain of Trotskyists that went "right wing"), and the few Democrats still under the delusion that they are members of a party that gives a drat about labor can join up with the anti-globalists. And that's the future of American partisan politics — an explicitly anti-globalist party versus a globalist party of transnational elites. quote:Look at the events of Chicago. The professional left thought that political violence would surely bring down his campaign. What did Trump do? He did not apologize, and instead went on the offensive. And what was the result with his supporters? On March 15, he made anime real. quote:Elisabeth Noelle-Neumann, who may or may not have been affiliated with the actual Nazi Party (and, yes, given the casual nature with which "Nazi" is thrown at the Trump campaign, the qualifier "actual" is necessary here), developed what she eventually called the spiral of silence. In short, if you don't see or feel your beliefs or attitudes reflected anywhere, you will assume you are in the minority and keep quiet, and this will form a negative feedback loop. You may not actually be in the minority, but because everyone like you also keeps quiet, it's only reasonable you'd believe this.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2016 16:50 |
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RINO hunting is becoming quite popular of late.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2016 20:10 |
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Lemming posted:Which is glorious because Cruz winning the nomination after getting fewer votes will violently (as in literal fights at the convention) destroy the party Why will there be fights at the convention when practically every Trump vote flips to Cruz on the second ballot thanks to moles like these in the delegates? EDIT: Pretty sure Cruz gets the nom at this point. Trump needs more than 50%+1 because I bet he will have a number of faithless delegates (party rules be damned; you can be sure the party will gladly ignore their faithlessness because it was "for a good cause"), and that's BEFORE we get to the second ballot. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Apr 11, 2016 |
# ¿ Apr 11, 2016 16:38 |
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stinkles1112 posted:So that whole DC Madam story was a big ol' nothingburger, huh? Has the lawyer guy even said anything else lately? SCOTUS blocked the madam from releasing any info.
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2016 16:45 |
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Stultus Maximus posted:The Court isn't what stopped the madam from releasing info. True. I'm just reporting the last info I know about it. Put quotes around "blocked" and there you go
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2016 16:57 |
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SquadronROE posted:1(i)(a) - The petitioner shall not in any way, shape, or form be or support the Democrat party while participating in an election. A Winner is Jew posted:1(i)(b) - The petitioner shall not in any way, shape, or form be or support any candidate other than a senator from Vermont. Finally, it's Jim Jeffords's day to shine!
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2016 17:30 |
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Christian persecution is real!
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2016 21:27 |
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zoux posted:
First we gotta balance our budget. If I asked for a $43k loan I'd never pay back, I'd get laughed out of the bank, so surely the United States is exactly the same because the country's finances are exactly like my own. And I don't like the idea of China laughing at us. Do you? Now, since we obviously can't even consider not supporting our boys in uniform and stop buying F-35s (after all, I'd never sell my gun collection if I had that level of debt) which social security net should we gut? I'm thinking "everything those worthless non-boomers use". You? ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Apr 14, 2016 |
# ¿ Apr 14, 2016 16:16 |
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Crabtree posted:When Trump fails the next will probably sell the job of a soldier as the best pay and the best benefits, free to all sign up for. But we can't bring back Public Works because I was wondering earlier this year how many lovely opinions I would overlook in a politician that vowed to recreate the WPA. EDIT: And the PWA ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Apr 15, 2016 |
# ¿ Apr 15, 2016 20:21 |
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Not mentioned here yet, but UnitedHealth is pulling out of (most) exchanges next year because it's not cost-effective for them.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2016 18:42 |
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Warcabbit posted:Isn't that three month old news? They were considering it three months ago. The confirmation that they are pulling out is new.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2016 18:51 |
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Boon posted:So it looks like Trump will come up short in delegates after June 7th by anywhere between 40-80 delegates. If Trump fails to get the nom on the first ballot, Cruz's chances improve significantly because of his well-oiled control of the delegate selection mechanism. It won't be a 100% lock for Cruz but a Cruz nomination is considerably more likely than not at that point. Personally, for maximum chaos, I want Trump to narrowly win pledged delegates by one or two votes and lose the nomination because a couple of faithless pro-Cruz moles refuse to vote for him despite being bound to do so. Also remember that, thanks to Cruz's gaming of the delegate selection, this year's GOP platform will probably make 2012's look like it was written by Lenin regardless of who gets the nom. And if Trump thinks he's going to be able to pick his veep, well... That might be difficult. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Apr 20, 2016 |
# ¿ Apr 20, 2016 16:13 |
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Kalman posted:Seriously: how do you distinguish between the NYT paying to print their endorsement of a candidate and TrumpPAC doing the same thing? Or to put it more concretely with a hypothetical example, "Sure, Hillary wouldn't enforce limits on editorial speech under such a ruling, but how can courts protect it if Trump tries to do so?"
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2016 16:47 |
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Boon posted:I don't really know what to say about this, as a white, well-off, middle class male. I have opinions, but I'll be told I don't understand. Which is true enough. If I remember correctly, one major critique is that she died a pauper (because racism)
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2016 20:41 |
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zoux posted:OH MY GOD Amazing. But I think there's another related interpretation that could gain traction in the south that's equally problematic: Is it appropriate to put the image of a person once considered to be tradable property of significant value on a piece of paper considered to be tradable property of some value? Will we see certain racial epithets applied to these bills? "I'm raking in the Benjamins" is one thing. "Hey, can you break me a [insert-a-distasteful-word-for-African-Anericans]" is another. The intent is good, but I think it's going to turn out to show a really ugly side of America in practice.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2016 22:18 |
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Kilroy posted:The budget is one thing, but Kansas overall is in pretty terrible shape, balanced budget or not. Is he even trying to argue that liberal spending policies (also, lol) are the cause of that, or is he just hoping that if he says "liberal" enough folks will forget that all the tax cuts haven't done poo poo? We must cut taxes to spur on the prosperity that was lost when we cut spending to make ends meet after we cut taxes to spur on the prosperity that was lost when we cut spending to make ends meet after we cut taxes...
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2016 19:36 |
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Shbobdb posted:"Fiscally liberal, socially conservative" was a core plank of the New Deal coalition, most noticeable in Unions. With the weakening of unions and the collapse of the New Deal coalition people of that stripe needed a new home and a new label. I was under the impression that "regressive" is what those people (the Bernie->Trump "progressive" voters) were calling "true" progressives in their ever-so-righteous way? As in the call-your-enemy-out-for-what-you-are-guilty-of "progressive? more like REgressive amiright? " way.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2016 19:24 |
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CelestialScribe posted:So...can someone remind me again why Clinton is a sure win in the general against Trump when his vote rose above 50% for the first time in some states tonight? 3 words: 50% of Republicans
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2016 02:32 |
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I am still on record holding my breath for faithless delegates throwing the RNC into disarray and getting away with it because the alternative is Trump.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2016 05:08 |
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Daniel Bryan posted:http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/28/black-voters-gun-violence-police-misconduct-poll Whoa now! It's not that police don't care about gun violence in their communities, it's that police have started taking vows to enforce their own personal views of what the Constitution says and reject any (pro-gun-control) alternatives
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2016 23:48 |
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Sir Tonk posted:http://wonkette.com/601156/mr-tuff-guy-sen-tom-cotton-didnt-drink-gay-sparkle-water-when-he-was-at-army Don't worry too much about his well-being. He's still got a Senate seat for life.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2016 03:24 |
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FilthyImp posted:The point is apt about it being fantasy. It's just dogma at this point. Conservatism cannot fail, it can only be failed.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2016 07:32 |
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In which Matthew Yglesias tries to convince Democrats that what they really need is more Blue Dogs.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2016 07:44 |
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It's May.
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