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I'm the windows on the inner saucer that only have a view of the outer saucer
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Brawnfire posted:Oh see in Star trek, evil is a black substance that lives under the skin explain the episode title "skin of evil" then
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Jul 18, 2017 03:27
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Astroman posted:If it's just some fictional entertainment, then sure. This post could work equally well on the eve of TNG's release
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Jul 19, 2017 02:05
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Romulans didn't really work well as a society that we actually interact with on more than a surface level, but they worked pretty well as a mysterious enemy with whom you engage in tense cold war negotiations whenever one of you crosses the neutral zone
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Jul 19, 2017 20:54
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Pakled posted:Was the blue stuff on Cardassian womens' forehead spoon really makeup? I always assumed that was a natural coloration. I always assumed it was makeup because humans don't have any color-based sexual dimorphism but do have colorful makeup But I just googled "cardassian woman" and browsed through the image results and the only non-blue spoons I can find are a) Ziyal (thus half-Bajoran) and b) a child (and the blue could easily be something that develops in puberty if it's not makeup) So, the jury is out as far as I'm concerned
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Jul 19, 2017 20:57
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Tunicate posted:Ahem, I think you'll find it's Captain Jean-Luc Picard, of the USS Enterprise. I hope everybody in this thread knows what this link is before clicking it
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Jul 21, 2017 07:15
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Literally the only bad thing about Yesterday's Enterprise is that they didn't do it with Kirk as the story to Generations
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Jul 21, 2017 07:22
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I get chills listening to Picard say "Let's make sure history never forgets the name Enterprise" Yesterday's Enterprise might be my second favorite TNG episode, after Measure of a Man
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Jul 21, 2017 08:51
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My favorite part of Yesterday's Enterprise is that Picard opens his log with "Military Log, Combat Date numbernumbernumber" Like, this timeline is so hosed by the war they renamed their calendar
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Jul 21, 2017 21:14
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:The only odd bit about Yesterday's Enterprise is that guinan doesn't really "fit" being on a battleship, but then she can't not be there because she holds the plot together Soldiers need booze more than explorers, so of course they're gonna bring the bartender
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Jul 21, 2017 21:32
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Marshal Radisic posted:There's also stuff like having the Cardassians be introduced as a major(ish) interstellar power in the middle of the fourth season out of nowhere, leaving the fans to backfill the 24th century and figure out how they would have fit in with everything else. (Though come to think of it, I've never seen anyone come up with a decent in-universe explanation as to why the Cardassians were nonentities in the TOS/TOS movie era.) I always assumed Cardassians were a B or C-rate power pretty consistently, and thus just weren't relevant to the show in TOS. The war with the Federation was very one-sided and the treaty only happened because the feds wanted peace more than they wanted to win. I think this is pretty consistent with how they're depicted
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Jul 21, 2017 22:03
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That trailer at least makes me hopeful that it will be a competent show that should never have had Star Trek branding
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Jul 22, 2017 23:42
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Yeah even in the initial concept of the Dominion being a dark mirror to the Federation I doubt it was meant in any way other than being a multi-species power
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Jul 25, 2017 21:46
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Eiba posted:Wasn't the Dominion a multi-species power though? They had military specialist species, so all their ships were manned by Jem Hadar, and all their commanders were Vorta, but that always seemed like it was just their military. I'd agree it's a pity we didn't get to see any Dominion civilians after the war started, but I never felt like they abandoned the concept of a multi-species empire. It just stopped being as relevant when they were mostly just an invading army on this side of the wormhole. In my mind, there's a very different feel to a power that's made up of a bunch of different species working together and one that bio-engineers a specific race for each possible role (but then only actually has two for budget reasons). If budget and viewer confusion were non-concerns I would have liked to see Dominion member species other than Cardassians in the war.
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Jul 25, 2017 22:07
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Jeb! Repetition posted:It's probably just gonna be TNG because it's the most culturally important and I want to end it on a high note. Maybe a few movies too. I've never seen Wrath of Khan. DS9 is a higher note to end on than season 7 of TNG
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Jul 26, 2017 08:25
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Jeb! Repetition posted:And I heard the last episode of TNG is good. It is I can respect not wanting to watch it because you're in it for the cultural significance, but DS9 is the better show so don't worry about the quality being lower.
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Jul 26, 2017 08:32
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Marshal Radisic posted:Bite your tongue. Q-Squared is the best Trek novel with Q in it, and I'll brook no dissent on this point. I've got to imagine that that isn't exactly a title with strong competition
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Jul 26, 2017 21:51
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corn in the bible posted:the finale of ds9 is dumb as hell, it's dumb as hell The pah-wraith plotline is somewhere between dumb and unengaging as it had been all season, but the rest of the finale is good. I wouldn't describe the episode as worse than "mostly very good with some bad parts"
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Jul 27, 2017 05:54
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I just rewatched Thine Own Self and holy poo poo did they just promote loving Troi higher than Data?
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Jul 27, 2017 08:55
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It's been a while but I remember the objections to borgicide that actually stuck were framed as "we can't use Hugh that way" rather than "killing borg bad" (those arguments were brought up and dismissed as I recall). It is absolutely in keeping with the tone and moral center of the show that once Hugh became a Person, they couldn't use him as an instrument of destruction against his will
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Jul 27, 2017 19:29
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The idea that borg can't be saved and can't be turned back into People requires such a willful misreading of the episodes and movies they're in that I'm astonished even someone in the Something Awful Star Trek thread could get it so wrong
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Jul 27, 2017 21:07
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Here's a hint: Picard gleefully killing borgified crew members in First Contact is portrayed as a pretty unambiguously bad thing in the second half of the movie
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Jul 27, 2017 21:08
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MisterBibs posted:I had no problem with it. Like I said, they hammered home that it's a Data-like situation where she'll never be Not Borg. Because, c'mon, she's a Borg. You can't undo a zombie bite. What led you to believe that because Borg resemble Zombies in some respects, they therefore must be 100% identical to them in all ways?
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Jul 27, 2017 22:14
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MisterBibs posted:You get bit, whatever you were before is gone. This is not supported by the text though Picard was restored. Seven was partially restored, and struggled to reclaim more of her old self. Hugh, while presumably borgified as a baby and thus didn't have a pre-borg personality, did have elements of his pre-borg species restored (such as having an individual ego). In First Contact the writers go out of their way to point out that Picard was in the wrong for just shooting the borgified crew members instead of trying to help them
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Jul 27, 2017 22:33
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MisterBibs posted:A cursory look up will explain how Picard's case is objectively, unarguably different. Main Lead, who almost didn't survive, back before Borging was determined to be unfixable. "Borg can't be restored, provided you ignore the absolutely inarguable case of a borg being restored, and rationalize away the other borg being partially restored", got it Like, even if the writers of Best of Both Worlds Part I intended borgification to be irreversible, the writers of Part II came and said "nah, it totally is" and then that's canon now, even if the reason they wrote that was because of contract negotiations I won't press on the First Contact point because it's been a while and I can't do a line-by-line argument without rewatching it
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Jul 27, 2017 22:50
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Sash! posted:The thing is that you can't help the Borg in most cases. They don't want to be helped and are only interested in harming you. The only option you have is to defend yourself. But no matter how much you defend yourself, they're continually harming others. You can't stop one. You have to stop them all. You might be able to help a survivor here and there, but there's too many and too much danger to try to help the whole situation. Yeah absolutely blowing them up is the best response to Borg attacking you most of the time, because saving them is much harder and in the meantime they're busy assimilating you. Saving the borg population as a whole is not plausible with TNG-level tech
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Jul 27, 2017 22:59
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Even granting that Locutus was a Borg-adjacent being rather than a true Borg because I just don't care enough anymore to belabor the point, I still don't get how you go from "Seven and Hugh were not restored completely to their pre-Borg states instantly" toMisterBibs posted:Hugh was as much a "person" as Bub from Day Of The Dead was. Bub was trained to say ullo auhnt uhleeca, Hugh was trained to say its a person.
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Jul 27, 2017 23:19
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The other half of the planet is where the non-horny Risans who liked the old weather live
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Jul 29, 2017 21:47
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MisterBibs posted:Since when is this a problem for a movie, though? Some movies are good Those movies are usually not star trek movies though
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Jul 30, 2017 19:04
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DS9 season one definitely feels like TNG retreads or rejects, but with (generally) more interesting characters. After a while they find their feet on what kinds of plots work with their setup and then you have both the good characters and the good stories. For the most part season one doesn't ever really go all the way to terrible, but it only has one really stupendous episode (Duet). If you find yourself lacking motivation to continue on, just watch Duet then skip to season two.
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Aug 2, 2017 02:13
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The Most Toys is one of those episodes, like Deja Q, where when I read the blurb on Netflix to figure out whether I want to skip it, I assume it's one of the generic fairly-good-but-not-great episodes that sorta blend together. Then I'm always pleasantly surprised.
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Aug 2, 2017 21:43
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The Bloop posted:This episode more than most supports the theory that Data has feelings he just doesn't recognize them as such. I'm 90% sure that was the original concept for the character and they changed their minds for whatever reason a season or two in.
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Aug 2, 2017 21:48
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Jeb! Repetition posted:That was the most interesting Data's ever been at the end despite it being creepy. I hope they do something else with his developing emotions or some emotion-like thing in him that he can't understand or control. That would require continuity, which is the enemy of syndication
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Aug 2, 2017 22:44
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What the gently caress are Data's pants in that scene
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Aug 3, 2017 00:01
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The war sort of did feel like the Federation was hopelessly outmatched, until suddenly they were winning. The turning point was probably supposed to be In the Pale Moonlight, but I don't remember them really emphasizing that in the show.
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Aug 3, 2017 09:15
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There's a real-life substance that tastes identical to sugar but the body can't metabolize, it's just expensive as gently caress to make (it's the same molecule as sugar, just reversed). Presumably it's no harder for the replicator to make than real sugar though
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Aug 4, 2017 04:28
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Arglebargle III posted:You mean L-glucose. It also happens to be a laxative... I did not know that! I'm sure there's something you can mix with it to fix that though, or will be by the 24th century Or they could just eat whatever unhealthy poo poo they want and beam the extra fat into space
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Aug 4, 2017 05:34
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You could probably replicate the raw ingredients and cook them yourself and not miss out on much if that's what's going on
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Aug 4, 2017 05:41
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I wonder what cool new foods molecular chefs could come up with by directly messing with replicator schematics rather than starting from real food
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After every meal, O'brien beams out the unhealthy food and beams a healthy nutrient smoothee into your stomach
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