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JcDent
May 13, 2013

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drat, the Russians are weird (when you come from Western perspective). So, your soldiers are conscripts, right, who have some skills needed for the military straight outta professional school and military adjacent sporting hobbies (parachutism, etc). Your warrant/professional NCOs are all specialized... well, specialists. The greatest burden of leadership falls on officers, so LT and up. The units are smaller to better work with officer ability to lead, but also staffs are smaller, so...

:psyduck:

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JcDent
May 13, 2013

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HEY GUNS posted:

it would be extremely weird if the kind of guns i like ever saw combat

HEY GUNS with his bat'leth bullshit again :rolleyes:

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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My Imaginary GF posted:

What was the most efficient way to kill Germans on a strategic level in ww2?

Soviet artillery.

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Cyrano also gave a reason, maybe you could think about it a little harder, or just stop pretending you had a real point to make besides being riled up about guns

I wish for a repost of his post detailing the who perception of Yugoslav wars stuff.

We should definitely either link or repost those super great post that happens in here.

Ah, if only inklesspen was into MilHist as she is into Fatal and Friends

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Oye, any of you gits know that site where people draw simple illustrations of military unit? I remember some dude had amazing Russian company and such illustrations made, very good for showing how TOnE looks.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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"Suddenly, infrastructure and field works" is probably my favorite Roman meme.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Appologies for the Funker vid, but here's some WW2 footage featuring the rarest of pokeymans: an M4 (the cast hull one) with a 76. I wonder what was the longest serving M4 that eventually got the 76(W) treatment.

https://www.funker530.com/intense-street-battles-caught-film-wwii/

drat, those tanks are clean. People like modeling them with markings and all sorts of baggage poo poo, but these ones are bare-bones.

Cyrano4747 posted:

I cast magic missile at the darkness

:golfclap:

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Geisladisk posted:

02:24 - That cameraman is out of his goddamn mind.

A point that was probably mentioned in the job ad.

E: Newspaper from 74 years ago!

JcDent fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Sep 10, 2018

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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I wonder how many of those wounded from the list previously died from their wounds. Not that many dead for such an attack and the reports made it sound more dramatic. Didn't it mention that all the officers were knocked out?

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Pro-tip: don't. It's painful to read.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Gothic Serpent sounds cool as gently caress, tho.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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I think he wants to make the distinction between what concentration camp meant before WWII and what Nazi deathcamps did when comparing stuff to gulags; which is what he means that gulags were as terrible as any concentration camp out there, but they weren't exactly death camps meant for industrial extermination of <people>.

Stalin had other ways to do that!

I doubt that poster is a tankie, though Hey Guns might consider all of the left to be that.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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I resent the implication that I'm defending gulags or tankies there.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Fangz posted:

Denial that the USSR killed, tortured and traumatised millions is a lot closer to holocaust and slavery denial than denying you took someone's lunch. Maybe you think that the idea of things being morally equivalent, even used colloquially, is impossible because no argument/historical event is exactly the same, but come the gently caress on - it's downright insulting to imply that therefore Hegel thinks these events are the same, especially when they literally said that. The issue does not come down to that.

Didn't stop some people from starting handing accusations of tankie-ism and gulag-denialism (but I repeat myself).

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Fangz posted:

I said you're being a douchebag, not a tankie.

Well, ugh, can't really argue with that, I am a douche

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Jobbo_Fett posted:

I should just interject with excerpts from these two ex-pilots arguing with eachother through snail mail about the max safe speed of a Spitfire Mk 1 vs a Hurricane Mk 1 and the difference (and obsolescence) between the latter's Mk I and Mk II vs Bf-109s and general dick-waving of credentials on hours flown with each type.

What's the WWII equiv of furiously mashing F5? Getting blackout drunk?

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Clarence posted:

Let's find out what 2/Lt. Wilding (he of the long range sniping of yesterday) is up to now -


:(
Horace Holden Wilding, age 22, son of Matilda Wilding, of 19, Kingswood Rd., Prestwich, Manchester, and the late John Frederick Wilding. Joined the Battalion less than two weeks ago.
This may be the same H H Wilding from Manchester in the KRRC who was wounded as a Private on 2nd October 1916.


Poor sniper dude :(

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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bewbies posted:

For something like Hearts of Iron, there isn't a whole lot of training value there. The game has a lot of engine limitations, and it is designed to be accessible to a mass audience, not to be brutally realistic. In other words, they eliminate a lot of the severe irritants that commanders and staffs have to deal with real world in order to make the game tolerable for your average guy with a computer. The engine seems to have some mechanical flaws as well....one think I remember is you could dominate the world's oceans by building a giant fleet of cruisers. Building divisions is also really...weird, and very divorced from how things are in the real world.

Could you elaborate on that?

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Nebakenezzer posted:

Chapter 1 had a dude who joined up and had been a postman, so he was a military postman for his entire time in the service

I am learning a few things, though. This 1944 conscription crisis is dumb as gently caress. Basically the invasion of Europe ground down Canadian infantry so much that cooks and medics were being reassigned gulf war style, and without the proper training naturally they were getting killed really quickly. In order to get out of it, PM King (hm, now I get why we refer to him always as Mackenzie King) sent a letter to Churchill to ask if he wouldn't mind saying publically "It's alright brah, we don't need those divisions you have in Canada, we're good"

Churchill said no

So out of 700,000 men in the army mentioned in the book, 70,000 became casualties. That doesn't sound too much in a World War and for a country of 11 million... So how come there was a shortage?

E: Well, I understand the whole teeth: tail thing, and that they also had a Navy and an Air Force to take care of, but it seems like everyone started running out of people fast in WWII.

JcDent fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Oct 2, 2018

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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feedmegin posted:

Well yes because everyone knows the Germans were masters of precision and order while Russians are basically orcs, right :rolleye:

Za rodina! WAAAGH! :orks101:

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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feedmegin posted:

I mean, why would any snake attack a creature much larger than itself without provocation, as a general habit? What's in it for the snake?

Tias posted:

I heard the green krait (as opposed to the banded krait) was used because it will attack without provocation?

Tias posted:

I heard the green krait (as opposed to the banded krait) was used because it will attack without provocation?

:orks101:

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Reading up on kraits in Wikipedia, I have come to the conclusion that you'd have to be Charles I of England to get one to bite you.

quote:

The Sri Lankan krait is nocturnal and timid. It is very slow and sluggish by day. At night it may strike after considerable provocation, but behaves quite the contrary by day, often allowing itself to be handled or even bullied with impunity. During such rough treatment it usually does nothing but puff up its lung to display its discomfort.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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HEY GUNS posted:

that snake is basically me

Snake lacks a pike.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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HEY GUNS posted:

in classical greece there were "house snakes" which were small, non-poisonous, and ate mice. they didn't have cats yet, those were introduced to europe during classical roman times

I know that it's probably not the case, but I will now imagine Romans invading Egypt and finding cats.

Legionnaire Sixtus Quintus Polonius Diplodocus: *points at cat* What's that?
Cat: *meows Ptolemaically*
Egyptian: it's a cat, it's a very holy creature.
Legionnaire Sixtus Quintus Polonius Diplodocus: What does it do?
Egyptians: It sleeps all day, grooms itself, doesn't give a gently caress about anything and kills with startling efficiency.
Legionnaire Sixtus Quintus Polonius Diplodocus: Oh my gods, it's just like a patrician, I must have them.
Cat: *shreds priceless scrolls*

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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There's the bit of me that's always disappointed that these don't come with detailed casualty reports.

quote:

D Company, however rose to the occasion and acted without delay, defiling quickly through the gaps in the wire and deploying immediately on the other side. The enemy machine gunners however offered a stubborn resistance and kept their guns going until skilfully outflanked and entirely surrounded

Attacking through nearly intact wire and into hardened MG nests is no joke, and I wonder how many lads made it :(

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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HEY GUNS posted:

their whole schtick is "the ______ but with computer game terminology for it"

They're extremely uncool, all of them.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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A modern day person valued avocado over shelter and other goods and services. Their crazed need to get avocado even left them too destitute to afford any other sides than simple toast.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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That's why those early medieval maps were just lines of cities.

It's somewhat related to why early painters painted kids with adult faces: none of them had ever pivoted their heads down, so they had never seen how a child looks and imagined them to be adults, but smaller.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Made this ages ago:

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Comrade Gorbash posted:

Jadgpanzer IV (that, by the way, is the real crappy one)

I already hated how it looks, knowing that it's poo poo just helps :argh:

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Fangz posted:

We've had that discussion earlier in the thread, I think. I think these things are quite different kettles of fish in terms of mainstream accessibility and also the visceral nature of your engagement.

The last time this discussion was around, I was inspired to write an article about it:
https://www.barreldrill.com/press-x-to-salute-hitler-the-difficulty-of-making-german-wwii-fps/

JcDent
May 13, 2013

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Nazi-chat adjacent: what makes/make tank transmissions/engines so poo poo in endurance in WWII and onwards? You don't hear abput heavy duty industrial engines being this overhaul thirsty - unless they are and I just don't know about it.

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JcDent
May 13, 2013

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What about the French tanks that drove themselves to poo poo during Fall of France?

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