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Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013


Le petit révolutionnaire

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Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013


Turns out you need to campaign for white peoples vote!

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013


I really need to point out that Luzerne county isn't wildly racist. There's definitely a strong vein that runs through but there is absolutely nothing other than a complete failure on HRC's part for this sort of swing. This is a Democratic bastion dating back through to the 1930's and while it's history isn't a straight arc Luzerne county has a very strong pro labor bias due to its background as a coal mining hub and the cruelties and hubris of the mine owners. Luzerne went for Obama big on the promise that he would change the system to make it fairer and, when he only acted to restore the status quo and accelerated the wealth gap and Clinton promised to continue that cause, it shouldn't be so shocking that this happened. It was obvious for a while that Luzerne was the new heartland of Trump country, but I didn't believe it would stretch across the Rust Belt.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

logikv9 posted:

pelosi and reid were the best

They're a pair of cocksuckers in the land of cocksuckers and cockroaches. I was sad to see Reid go, especially because he was replaced with Schumer. My best memory of him is him getting a note that Obama capitulated to the GOP on the expiring Bush tax cuts and he responded by throwing it into a fire.

I'm split on Pelosi. She handled her situation as well as could be expected and I always saw her pushing the party as left as possible, but neither she nor Reid could counter Obama being a dumpy coward so I don't blame her for the overall Democratic failure. But at the same time the need for fresh blood is critical for the Democratic party to endure. I've read that she's focusing on grooming a relatively large batch of 30 year olds for leadership positions in the House leadership. So long as she is taking the steps necessary to ensure a stable future leaders in the party while fighting for 'progressive' policies I'm fine with her staying in charge. Besides, it always seems to be some blue balled blue dog that seems to challenge her for the leadership.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IshiClQqCM

Uncle Tom slur aside, Nader pretty much called it. Obama shucked the nation and the Democratic party to make himself popular and it resulted in the election of Dorbald Tormp. Nice.

Edit: :lol: I just rewatched it. At the very end Shep asks him if regrets using that word and Nader's eye brow arcs up and he responds smugly: "Not at all".

Brother Friendship has issued a correction as of 19:13 on Nov 30, 2016

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

Veskit posted:

All this new blood poo poo reminds me of people angry at their sports team only to let them do their thing and find out that that works. Pelosi is great chill out

Pelosi is good but the leadership roster of House dems is simply too old. They're all over 70, aren't they? Obama had a selling point of being young and, for that matter, so does Little Marco. Youth is a quantifiable asset in politics and should be used to its full effect. This isn't anything that Pelosi herself hasn't realized.


gently caress fighting gun rights, everything else gets pushed left by about fifty years. Also Democrats should shut up about SJ stuff and just cement non discrimination into their policies, only talking about it when it's brought up or is a particularly effective attack.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

Ace of Baes posted:

Reasons Hillary Clinton Lost:
* Racism
* Sexism
* Bernie Bros
* Jill Stein
* CNN
* James Comey
* Russia
* Julian Assange
* Reddit
* Leftists
* 14 year-old Macedonians

Not-Reasons Hillary Clinton Lost:
*Hillary Clinton
*The Democratic Party
*Ignoring the working class

:lol: why are you transcribing motivational posters at the DNC :lol:

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

Noah does make good points about tyrants dividing populations to allow for easier manipulation. The way comedians dealt with Trump served no real purpose when they cut themselves into an echo chamber, all that grand standing just served to solidify Trump's base and tighten the Democratic message to where it wasn't reaching enough people. Grand standing means that it's easy for people to shut you out, and when you're dealing with fascists you need to be extremely careful in how you respond to them. 2016 proved the limits of outrage, and it's important to find a message that will work in future elections.

Seriously though, "truth is in the middle" are you kiiiiiddddiiiiinngg me. An unworthy successor, but then again Stewart wasn't even worthy of his mantle as the years went on.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

Venom Snake posted:

Bernie people taking all posts tonight. The revolution marches onward

I'm at the end of three months of studying so I decided to start inquiring about helping organize the county party. I'm very impressed with the Twitter and Facebook party accounts that haven't been active since 2014 and all the responses my email has generated (0). I have one connection to try and then I'm just going to message Fetterman and ask him if I can be the boss of da Coal Boyz.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

etalian posted:

It's funny how bad dems are still angry over him even though he endorsed Hillary and campaigned for her.

Is it Bernie's fault that she ran a GE campaign that had a laundry list of strategic errors such as overlooking midwest states?


Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

loquacius posted:

Sure, Hillary Rodham Clinton might have had the undying support of literal murderer and war criminal Henry Kissinger and often vocally expressed her admiration of him, but remember that Tulsi Gabbard is a war hawk in the middle east

Kissinger's world view is much more in line with Trumps than Clinton. See both of their stances RE: Russia. Clinton would have doubled down on sanctions and US involvement in Syria, whereas Trump/Kissinger want to build a world order based on regional hegemony.

But yes Clinton is Kissinger's gently caress buddy and took weird holidays where they laughed about bombing civilians (I'M GUESSING)

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013


*holds ur hand as we stare into each others eyes and smile for the first time in years*

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

tower time posted:

I'm on board with the idea behind a leftist tea-party, but do keep in mind that the most immediate effect the tea party had was to delay the republican retaking of the senate by a few cycles as they knocked out incumbents for extreme candidates that proceeded to lose their races. Tancredo in Colorado and the woman in Delaware that claimed to be an ex-satanist come to mind. Be prepared to see some short-term setbacks before real gains start to show.

dems aren't taking the senate in 2018 hth

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

You gotta admit it was a funny election cycle.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

We wouldn't want our young voters to think we have a spine or charisma. We are capitalists and that's the way it is.

To be honest the current iteration of capitalism in the United States is a complete joke and an utter disgrace, it has nothing to do with Dems being capitalists. The Bad Dems are basically upset Sanders called them out as being spineless sycophants who protect corporate profits instead of serving the public interest so they called him into the safe space so they can cry about it.

I hope he told them to shut the gently caress up and called them out on even more poo poo.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

I think we should just do whatever the people in charge tell us to do, they have our best interest at heart.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

anime was right posted:

perez being a bad speaker is a problem because he's in a position you throw on news shows.

a lot.

Actually, this is good!!

The beer I'm drinking, I mean, yea about the perez thing.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

🤔

Remind me again why centrism is a good thing?

The truth is in the middle.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

Oh Snapple! posted:

at the end of the day hillary suffered no true loss for her hubris and will live the rest of her life in comfort due to the millions of dollars she was able to secure for herself throughout her career. pretty much the only thing that can really be done is insuring that her name and it's attached legacy is spat on for the rest of eternity.

I'd also like to say that cornbread pudding is great.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

Karl Barks posted:

she's been moving hard left cuz she sees the writing on the wall

*howls into the night*

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013


I've read much of antiquity and yet have never encountered such a quick ascent into godhood.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

etalian posted:

Didn't MLK talk about civil rights being just as about the economic opportunity and also organizing black workers into unions?

Yea he was awesome. I get a martyr from a a half century ago entering the pantheon, not a two term senator lol

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

Darkman Fanpage posted:

i beat them both and am now president :abuela:

What happens if Russia really did hack the voting tallies :lol:

I'd still loving hate her and her incompetence and cynicism.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

*while being lowered into my grave*

I beat death itself.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013


Back in the primaries I said 'Death to neoliberalism or we burn the country' but I didn't realize that, at the same time, the people in power were saying 'Long Live neoliberalism and we burn the people'

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

docbeard posted:

The 2020 Democratic Primary: Literally Every Democrat Is Running (Except Hillary)

*narrator voice*

She's running.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

Condiv posted:

if you look in ess, you'll see hillary lovers both simultaneously blaming bernie for not endorsing ossoff fast enough, and also for having endorsed ossoff in the first place:



r/enough_sanders_spam is a land of wonder

Schrodinger's socialist

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

when will sanders accept that he is to blame for the failures of neoliberalism

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

Karl Barks posted:

republicans never actually look into whether their policies will work, they just pass poo poo and win. just loving do single payer who cares if it doesn't work good lord

Joementum posted:

if there's enough money for war, there's enough money for single payer

hmm but have you considered the optics

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

fits my needs posted:

lol some lady on NPR is saying if the DCC spent any money in Kansas or South Carolina it would have turned people even more against the Dems so there was no point in spending money or something

lol

oh it's NPRs own political reporter

double lmao

But let's hear from the 'other side'

*never listens to anyone other than a mouthpiece for the two most corrupt and incompetent political parties in American history*

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013


So this guy is gonna win?

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Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

The more money spent on TV ads people don't watch and mailers people don't read the greater the chance you will win an election - Jeb Bush, President of the United States

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