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Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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TheBigAristotle posted:

No mention of intelligence around, say, 2003?

Were they the ones who put up the "Mission Accomplished" banner that Obama spoke in front of?

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Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Kurtofan posted:

goddamn do i hate mr fish

He's probably got the widest range between his good stuff and his bad stuff of anyone posted here.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Somfin posted:

Goat yoga is apparently a thing.

Tinsley is against it because it is new and different and strange.

I can't wait for the two-week delay to start absolutely biting him in the arse.

Has it been two weeks since Trump announced his travel ban? I would love to see him show Mallard discussing how smoothly and effectively it was initiated.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Starshark posted:

When you're tired of the politician turning out to be a robot, you're tired of satire.

"Hey, robot politician, you should kill yourself."
"Hmm, good idea." *explosions*

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Shugojin posted:

I thought about saying :argh: but IQ is a sliding scale there will always be people with IQ over 80 :argh: but realized that that's a pretty good educated person trap

I'm confused why "intellectuals" get a separate barrack from "people with IQ over 80."

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Sandpuppy posted:

I sure hope we get some good Cardboard Trump Man cartoons tomorrow.




Gotta admit though, that's a pretty nice Med-Alert shirt he's wearing.

Fake. It was a CNN interview, and we all know that's fake news.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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I saw an octopus strangling someone and a blue star, and I panicked for a minute. But the star only has five points, so I think we're okay.

A HUNGRY MOUTH posted:

The King Possum approach is like posting massive full-page scans of your local paper's funny pages in the Newspaper Comic Strip thread, ignoring that people are already posting those comics and have been for a while, and you're being really half-assed and self-centered about contributing as much as you can when you can simply contribute a little bit of something new or unusual.

It's still preferable to the Xander approach of eighty consecutive, full-sized propaganda posters.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Guys, I'm at work. Could we maybe put pictures of Lady Liberty getting reamed up the butt behind a link?

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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mandatory lesbian posted:

gotta be honest, even tho i don't like steak like that, i can't care about trump liking it at all

I don't think anyone sincerely cares about it. It's long been an irony, though, that Trump builds a whole brand on being upper class and sophisticated but everything he does is actually incredibly tacky. It's just kind of funny that he has terrible taste in everything yet thinks he's so suave. And, if you want, you can extrapolate that to his thinking he knows everything about how the government works but is clearly in over his head.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Duke Igthorn posted:

Yeah I can't parse that as anything BUT that

https://mobile.twitter.com/l_k_richards/status/821864945654657024?lang=en

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Squashy Nipples posted:

Entropy is like Quantum Mechanics: badly misused by people who don't actually understand it. And since MOST people don't understand them, they have no way of telling real from bullshit.

How can you not understand entropy? It's a pretty simple concept.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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What the hell, I stop checking the thread for a few days and Leak is dead? Wow, I should take breaks more often.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Saving this to watch for later (I'm in public and forgot my headphones), and I'm sure it's good, but there should be a law against headlines that describe a pundit "destroying," "demolishing," or "eviscerating" someone.

Jurgan fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Apr 10, 2017

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Xander77 posted:

Didn't Jon Stewart have a big old rant about it back in the day? Or possibly Jon Oliver.

In his last episode, Stewart joked about how he had apparently destroyed numerous people without realizing it.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Pants Donkey posted:

The gently caress


It's not that complicated. Jesus rose from the dead, then destroyed the thing that killed him as a symbol of it having no power over him.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Discendo Vox posted:

It's already pointing south, though?!

Are you sure? From the perspective, I'd say it's pointing north.

:getin:

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Gazpacho posted:

idk what that means but he often throws in banal virtue labels like "REALITY" and "TRUTH"

In theory, "virtue signalling" means you tell everyone how enlightened and compassionate you are to get credit without actually doing anything to help people. In practice, it means "yes, I'm a racist, sexist, hateful person, but anyone who calls me out on it is just doing it to show off, so I maintain the moral high ground."

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Pants Donkey posted:

He regularly forgets holidays. Like, he's had at least TWO cartoons that are him saying "Oh poo poo sorry I forget Veteran's Day."

What about Squirrel Appreciation Day?

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Playstation 4 posted:

Stopped clock is a thing unless Deak don't want it to be.

Also lol at the loving implication "You tink my abuela bad, Ur Nazi!"

Keep chuffing deak, maybe you can save democracy with its only hope, the Facebook guy, if you just die on that hill a little harder.

Do you think this "my abuela" thing is funny?

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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SwitchbladeKult posted:

I think Branco's audience isn't going to read it that way. I think they fixate more on what he is calling the GOP.

Trump's supposed to be the ultimate dealmaker, but he can't even recognize when he's being played in the same way every time.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Broken Cog posted:

I know people here like to say the Republicans are Cartoon Villains. I just never took it to be so literal.

I assume what he meant, based on his comments about "location," was not "gently caress my constituents if they didn't vote for me," but rather "these are out-of-state protesters." Still a dumb argument.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Kopijeger posted:

Oh, they are probably plenty racist, but money is most likely the primary concern.

The same was true of slavery.

Rebel Blob posted:

Man, y'all are really over-analyzing this. It's a Hollywood movie, when this project first started coming together some studio executive said this needs a recognizable Hollywood star and everything else is just working around that. That executive had no objective other than profit, having someone like Scarlett Johansson as the lead will drag more butts into theater seats. Whatever creative decisions were made around the character are utterly secondary.

Yep, ScarJo sure got butts in seats. GITS was the biggest box office smash since The Last Airbender.

(My point, if it isn't clear, is that "we need white actors to sell tickets" isn't working, so that excuse should be retired.)

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Stultus Maximus posted:

have some Sunday Funnies Crossover Comics in which Scott Adams wins an argument with a hilarious straw man!


Based on this and his posts from his blog, I believe his argument is "I have heard of something called chaos and know it means we can't make predictions in a complicated system, so no one knows anything." In reality, it is entirely possible to make predictions about the long term behavior of a dynamical system. I don't even think climate measured on the scale of decades is chaotic. I'm pretty sure that a change of .001 degrees today wouldn't lead to a radically different climate a century from now. It could certainly cajange next week's weather, but that's a different subject.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Internet Webguy posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZR1gSvnOI0

First Matt Furie and now MST3K?

Is nothing sacred?

Mike Nelson is pretty right wing, so he might endorse that.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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axolotl farmer posted:

Dees was a lot more fun before he went full Nazi :(

I think it's more that Nazi opinions are less funny now that they have actual power.

Technowolf posted:

I like that the first panel is just 'President Trump' and not, say, anything that pile of melting orange wax did.

That's the point- this template could work for several things, most notably Comey's firing and Trump giving Russian agents classified intel.

Pants Donkey posted:

I adore that Payne is desperately trying to bring up the Rice nonstory

I had to check the date, because I was sure that must have been from months ago.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Fulchrum posted:

Specifically, this one.



Loves tacky gold poo poo, hates other races. Checks out.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Samurai Sanders posted:

What is it with right wing cartoons teasing me with the exact thing I want but isn't happening irl?

I felt the same way about portraying Obama as a socialist or holding any number of other "far left" positions. So many time in the last eight years I found myself having to argue "no, actually Obama did not do that thing that I wish he would do."

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Cat Mattress posted:

Here's the latest DDees:



How would Dees feel about this? On the one hand, it's a creepy group of sinister people plotting world domination, but on the other hand none of them are Jews.

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Didn't he also openly brag about it? Like saying it was awesome how he could just barge into the dressing rooms of underage girls and nobody would stop him because he's the Donald.

That was LOCKER ROOM TALK. It was just LOCKER ROOM TALK. Why are you making such a big deal out of LOCKER ROOM TALK? And what about her emails?

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Samurai Sanders posted:

Some of the dinosaurs in the audience might have had one of their parents torn apart by one of them so yeah sounds like a good idea to discuss them delicately.

But uhhh why would this kind of thing come up in a graduation speech?

Off-screen Littlefoot is having a panic attack at the unexpected allusion to Sharptooth.



Wait, is Zelda straight? Up until now, this comic had a real "everyone is a lesbian" vibe.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Cat Mattress posted:

From what I understand they all touched together a novelty lamp shaped like a representation of the Earth to turn it on; and it was in the middle of something that supposedly is an anti-terrorist propaganda center or something. The desired symbol was one of a world united in a fight against terrorism, I presume. Instead it ended up looking like a weird occult ritual by a bunch of power-hungry despots in a Bond villain base.

Since this is the political cartoons thread, here's a relevant oldie:

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Flowers For Algeria posted:

I mean there literally was a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate AND a majority in the House, but nooooooo, incrementalism and market-based solutionsssss are the only way forward

People like you are the reason why Democrats suck so hard

I hate this "filibuster-proof majority" line. There were 60 people in the Democrats' Senate caucus for about five months total (Franken's election was delayed and Ted Kennedy died), and that includes Joe Lieberman. If all of the 60 were rock-solid leftists, then there would have been a better plan. Thanks to McConnell's non-stop filibustering every single Democrat or Democrat-affiliated independent had to vote yea for anything to pass, so Lieberman had the leverage to personally kill the public option.

MelvinBison posted:

My eyes glazed over around the Public Good part, but I managed to come back in time to see him claim to own Spider-Man.

There's no doubt that he has a strong claim to Spider-Man, and probably had more influence on him than Lee did for a while there. It's also true that Marvel was pretty terrible about respecting the contributions of their artists, which is why MacFarlane and a bunch of others left to form Image (though they ultimately weren't much better).

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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MelvinBison posted:

Admittedly I went back and looked him up, and you're right. His argument just came across as "who even owns property, man?" than "I co-created Spider-Man."

It's confusing, but I think "property doesn't exist" is the last thing an Objectivist would ever say.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Darkman Fanpage posted:

An entire comic made of strawwomen!

You think? I thought it was pretty funny. Basically the joke was that these particular women have strong opinions and know what they should believe, but sometimes just want to stare at a hot guy. I don't think it's supposed to be "all feminists are hypocrites."

Duckbag posted:

Yeah, I actually think Ditko's argument was more of a "sweat of his brow" situation. He created one of the most iconic symbols of the twentieth century and goddamn it, he wants credit for it. No one remembers most of Stan Lee's writing beyond "my spidey sense is tingling" and the "with great power..." line, but billions of people will immediately recognize the costume Ditko drew -- the one on the Marvel stationary -- the one they're basically still using sixty years later. Spider-Man has been written and drawn many different ways by many different people, but the basic look of him -- the way he crouches, the way he walks up walls on his fingertips hands splayed out like little spiders, the webbing, the wirey frame, the weird bold off-kilter way he moves -- all of that is pure Ditko.

If I'd amazed millions with the best work of my career and had to give it up to company I resented while my more verbose and business-savvy collaborator reveled in the fame, fortune, and credit that had eluded me, I might go a little crazy too.

It's possible Jack Kirby gets some credit for the basic concept of Spider-Man, but Ditko really cemented the way he moves, his spindly form, etc. And from a story perspective, the idea of "superior man hated by the public who are jealous of him" has clear Ayn Rand roots. J. Jonah Jameson as Spider-Man's enemy probably wouldn't exist were it not for Ditko's Randian views. It's kind of ironic, that the self-made businessman Jameson seems like a Rand hero himself. I'm guessing in Ditko's mind, Jameson didn't "deserve" his wealth, and only got it by mooching off the natural talents of people like Spider-Man to sell papers.

Anyway, Ditko has alluded to the idea that he quit Spider-Man precisely because he was doing a ton of work on the book and getting none of the credit. A lot of people think it was because they couldn't agree on the Green Goblin's identity, but that seems to just be an urban legend. That said, the fact the Lee unmasked GG as Norman Osborn immediately after Ditko left suggests he had his own ideas and wanted to get them set in stone ASAP. Again, I wonder what Ditko had in mind. Osborn had been a background character for years, but he was only formally introduced as a devious businessman and the father of Peter's classmate two issues earlier. Osborn was clearly a sinister villain, but also a Captain of Industry, so that's a tough circle to square from a Randian POV. Ditko claims they'd been planning for him to be the Goblin since his first non-speaking cameo appearance, but I'm skeptical. It sounds a lot like George Lucas saying he always knew Darth Vader was Luke's father.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Shangri-Law School posted:

All momentum has been stopped? When the single-payer candidate put forth a strong showing in the primary? When California is on the verge of passing single-payer?

Programs like Social Security and Medicare are much, much better now than they were initially. But they were designed well enough that improving them was inevitable. The ACA is the same way.

It's not a coincidence that every time the Democrats failed to pass comprehensive health care reform in the 70 or so years before the ACA, the next effort was less liberal. And it's also not a coincidence that the single-payer movement has gained strength after ACA passage. Failure breeds timidity. Success breeds ambition.

What has definitely changed is that people see the government having a responsibility to provide health care. PPACA has created an expectation that everyone have health care, and the free market "if you can't afford it, tough poo poo" philosophy is dead. Yes, there are still some people who believe that, but no one campaigns on it. Paul Ryan would love to scrap all government involvement in health care, but he knows that's incredibly unpopular today, so they claim their plan will cover more people than the ACA. Then they have to defend it on its merits rather than just say "it's not the government's business." The conversation has shifted from "should we ensure that everyone has coverage" to "what's the best way to cover everyone?" There's no going back from that. Single-payer has a chance today because it's no longer about "free market vs. government regulation" but about "efficient vs. inefficient government regulation."

loquacius posted:

This isn't as strong a pro-ACA argument as you appear to think it is -- usually you want to defend something on its own merits, and "it was such an obvious half-measure that it made people want to fix it" kind of feels like damning with faint praise

I agree- we should be emphasizing all the millions of people it helped and then talking about how to make it better, not compulsively apologizing for its flaws and then begging for another chance.

Flowers For Algeria posted:

Nuking the god damned filibuster

Again, though, that requires enough senators to go along with it. The Senate is (or at least was) very reluctant to change its rules, especially in the middle of the session. Getting fifty-one senators to overturn the rules in 2009 was probably an even taller order than getting a bill sixty would sign on to.

Flowers For Algeria posted:

We'll see whether the ACA will have been deemed a success or a failure when Trump had finished loving it up.

But if it fails now, Trump is the one who will be blamed. People now expect the health care system to work for them, and they are already fighting back against the idea that Trump would wreck it.

Flowers For Algeria posted:

Also I was straining to make the vidja game analogy fit in order to troll Fulchrum, cut me some slack dammit

If we really want it to fit, you have to imagine that the company making the game had forty percent of its employees actively trying to sabotage the project and prevent any game from being released and the rest had totally different ideas for what kind of game they wanted.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Titus Sardonicus posted:

Yep, I really got the vibe that she's super self-aware about her feminism, and for that, I like Zelda. It takes a true egalitarian to proudly claim that everyone is an idiot.

Not necessarily; "everyone is an idiot" was also the thesis of a Scott Adams book.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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MikeyTsi posted:

No, his was "everyone is an idiot (except me, a white male cartoonist)".

There's a somewhat subtle difference.

At the time of writing the book (either The Dilbert Principle or The Joy of Work, since those were the two I had), he happily included himself in his claim, which was "we're all idiots, at least some of the time." But his ego has gotten out of control in the intervening years.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Heh, let's see how many goons fall for this obvious edit. *Checks The Onion's website* :aaaaa:

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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"ESUBA OF POWER?"

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Kopijeger posted:

In the original it is "mil", which is shorthand for 10 kilometers.

That makes a lot more sense- I would hope Zelda would know she'd gone more than half a mile at the 5K mark. Zelda's starting to grow on me, actually. It's mostly non-political, but it's also kind of a nice palate cleanser to have something that's harmless fun and fairly well-drawn. Plus, why do people get so determined to ban certain cartoons? I skip over most of the British cartoons and Xander's 1,200 image propaganda dumps (seriously, Xander, how hard is it to put a "t" in front of "img?"), so people can scroll past if they must. Day by Day was different, because while I didn't mind it, it could be genuinely upsetting to read this thread and see "corrective anal rape" in a bland copy-paste cartoon.


All wrong- Trump didn't even lift the sword above his knees. I know it's juvenile, but I was laughing at Trump holding the sword at his crotch and not being able to get it up.

FronzelNeekburm posted:

There are many more possibilities than single-payer. Dozens of health care systems around the world, in fact, that work better than ours, for cheaper. We could try learning from any of them, or all of them. But hey, someday we'll get that incremental change that actually benefits people.

If you think the ACA didn't "actually benefit people," you can gently caress right off. My wife would probably be dead without it. You can acknowledge its weaknesses without ignoring the millions of people who have benefited.

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Jurgan
May 8, 2007

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Avirosb posted:

I'd be cool with banning Prickly City.
At least until something happens.

10,000 years in the future, when the robots rule us all, Hunny Bunny is still screaming "I'm likeable you morons!"

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