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Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

I feel that the increased acceptance of poly relationships is going to make a lot of love-triangle-based dramas age poorly. Like, if you two really love that other person and they reciprocate your feelings then maybe just roll with it? Sheesh.

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Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Gaunab posted:

Poly relationships don't work out more than they do. Also makes the person look selfish.

In my experience poly relationships are just better at bringing the lovely side out of people. Two people who aren't especially compatible or good at relationships can make a lovely relationship last for a long time. But if you add in one more person everything awful about everyone involved rapidly comes into stark focus. Contrariwise, for people who are actually good at relationships it doesn't make a difference if it's with multiple people. Turns out most people are really loving awful at relationships, though!

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

JediTalentAgent posted:

Is That 70s Show aging pretty well? Even when it was on, I didn't watch all that much, but its first season is going to be hitting the 20 year mark here in a few years, sort of putting it about nearly the same number of years out from the 1976-1977 timeframe the show started out in. It seems that between the cast, production values and the show concept it seems to be maybe able to stand the test of time a bit better than others.

I watched a bunch of the earlier seasons like a handful of years ago and I don't remember anything that particularly aged poorly. Probably helps that anything lovely that people might've said or did in the show was rather appropriate for the decade

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

The Simpsons runs for literally 100 years and never gets a reboot. Just the same tired jokes dragged along like an exhumed corpse

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Gnoman posted:

One of my comedy stations was playing Robin Williams stand-up today, and it aged poorly in a somewhat different manner.


Now that we know what was lurking behind that grin of his, jokes like "sorry, GPS, I'm not feeling that suicidal today" hit rather differently.

Any comedian who has made a joke about suicide has probably dealt with suicidal ideation at some point

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

I wonder if the better approach to the blackface aspect of Tropic Thunder would be to just literally have a black actor play the role. There's really only one scene where the fact that it's actually RDJ under the makeup is important (when he removes the makeup) but that can just be handled with good makeup or sfx and careful camera work. Really the only drawback there would be that it's NOT RDJ in that role, but there were plenty of black actors of similar fame around at that time

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

christmas boots posted:

E: Wait, or are you saying that when he's in makeup he should be played by an actual black actor, but then be RDJ when he takes it off?

Yes, exactly. It'll be a black actor playing a pretentious white Hollywood method actor in blackface

Asterite34 posted:

No no no, the way you do it is have the character played by an actual black guy, then have a scene of him taking a cloth to wash off the "makeup," do a reaction cut-away to everyone looking on, then cut back and it's RDJ saying "yeah, it was REALLY convincing makeup, right?"

That's what I meant. Sorry if I wasn't clear. I just meant that it wouldn't actually be RDJ until the makeup removing scene

Count Uvula posted:

I'm in to this idea, the idea of them just playing reversed footage of a black man applying whiteface makeup is powerful

And I actually like this idea even more, lol

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Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Len posted:

I did once pull out https://www.galtse.cx in an rpg when my roll to put someone to sleep worked real well. "Len, tell me. How do you this tree full of birds asleep"

The dm had to compose himself because that wasn't what he was expecting

That's loving funny. If a player pulled that on me I'd have to give them some sort of bonus because that's the good poo poo I play to see

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Fish of hemp posted:

There are a lot of things about modern world that I don't understand and this is one of them. Why is it okay and popular to replace actual jokes with shouting and yelling?

People shouting and yelling has been the basis of some forms of comedy for millennia. It’s nothing new at all

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"


This is the "media that didn't age well" thread

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Jokerpilled Drudge posted:

double post:

So Helga was the original Tsundere?

First American tsundere, yes

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

RenegadeStyle1 posted:

I haven't seen a drow elf racism argument on this site in drat near 10 years.

Better milk it for what it's worth, then!

The Drow are canonically much shorter than other types of elves, which means they're actually a racist caricature of Italians, a squat and swarthy people. Salvatore's editor famously forced him to completely remove Drizzt's catchphrase "Mama mia!" and it's just another example of SJWs censoring a true visionary

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Arivia posted:

please don't tell varg vikernes this

He'd probably justify it as them not being true vikings or someshit, lmao

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Strom Cuzewon posted:

I'm not doubting these historians, but I do wonder how you conclusively prove that something is nonsense, and not just some incredibly obscure dialect you've never heard of.

There would be other evidence that hinted at such a dialect existing and also the writing would have to parse as something that maybe might be construed as words. The examples given above of gibberish definitely do look like gibberish since they’re mostly strings of consonants with the occasional vowel thrown in randomly

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Terry Goodkind was an absolute bellend with an ironic lastname. I also just found out he died last year so that's some great news for today

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Ror posted:

I always thought Earthsea was supposed to be the gold standard for non-problematic fantasy, but I still have those books sitting unread so I can't personally vouch.

Hm, maybe I'll start that tonight.

The first one is pretty good. The others are also fine but maybe not as compelling. The last one…I dunno, it felt like it was written by someone else and had no relation to anything else. Absolutely bizarre

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

You don't gotta hand it to him

The thing is, the underage sewer orgy isn't written as a horrifying thing. Like, the circumstances of it happening are that the protagonists are trying to escape the sewers but due to supernatural influences they're both getting lost and slowly starting to lose their connection to each other. So what's the logical solution? Why, all the boys have to take turns loving the one girl in the group, of course. It's not written as a "oh man it's so hosed up that they have to do this" kind of scene, it's written as a team building exercise. King really could have gone with at least a dozen other narrative choices, many of which would've made more sense and have been more impactful, but he went with this

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

The only good cop story is Disco Elysium and the protagonist is both technically not a cop as we know cops and is also an absolute loving disaster of a person

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

SgtScruffy posted:

Same thing for Lincoln - he had his face and hands cast at one point and one of his hands is noticably swollen/larger because of handshaking

https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_524360

The things historians will say to cover for a prolific masturbator

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Shiroc posted:

The first Whedon thing I ever watched was Firefly sometime in the early 2010s. I was baffled to discover that "strong female characters" meant literally women who could beat people up.

This is still what 90% of male writers think a "strong female character" is

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Precambrian posted:

It's the sort of thing where you see the thematic point (Peter is literally toxic and his relationship killed his wife, giving him turbo guilt) but there's just no way to do it that isn't going to lead to the reader thinking the words "radioactive spider cum" which is... not going to work.

They could have just said that it turns out Peter became mildly radioactive after getting bitten and it wasn't really enough to affect most people but because he lived with MJ she was exposed to it a lot more and got cancer. But that's not as edgy or as memorable as radioactive spider cum

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

Nordic symbols are a big warning sign. Not something people do for non-racist reasons afaict.

Eh, depends. I've got a bunch of Scandinavian friends who are into paganism and the occult and they're all both tatted up in runes and other symbols and also staunch anti-fascists, anti-white supremacists, etc. In short, they don't want the fash co-opting their culture so they just leaned hard into it and being both loudly queer and anti-fash. They all also actually live in Norway and poo poo so if you see some dipshits in Knoxville rocking Mjolnir tattoos you can safely assume they're racist

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Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Absurd Alhazred posted:

How do you bite the head off of two unrelated flying animals unintentionally?! :psyduck:

oldpainless posted:

For those unaware, Ozzy Osbourne has numerous instances where he has shown himself to be British

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

CharlestheHammer posted:

Yeah but my point was more people tried to combine the two which I think is kind of lovely?

If your taking a moral stance quality really shouldn’t be a factor

People were always critical beyond the quality of the writing. Stuff like the goblins being Jewish caricatures, wizards being cool with owning a slave race, actually pretty much every character that wasn't white and British, the list goes on. The terf stuff was the tipping point that made a lot of people actually turn on Rowling, but there have been people calling all the other stuff out since day one

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Kchama posted:

If he hadn't been so compassionate, he wouldn't have understood the bugs well enough to destroy them. That's the constant refrain, that his compassion is what lets him destroy his enemies. It just also has the extra effect of winning the love of his 'underlings' and work with them like a hive mind. Mind you, this really isn't displayed either. When he becomes leader he finds himself using the same manipulations and tricks that Graff and the other adults used on him in order to get his underlings to do what he wants. It's framed in the same "Oh I love him so much but I must be cruel and harsh to toughen them up!" way that Graff sells to the other adults when questioned on his methods.

I remember way too much of this book, ugh. I only read this one, Ender's Shadow, and Speaker, so I can't speak of what goes on after them very much beyond broad strokes.

The cool thing about fiction is that you can just make up a reason why something happens, have everyone in the story agree that that's the reason it happened, and a bunch of people reading the book will nod their heads to the logic and then attempt to carry it forward to their own lives to predictable results

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

sexpig by night posted:

Lie to Me is so fuckin weird. On one hand it's complete fantasy, treating one of the most hokum things out there as REAL HAD SCIENCE completely unironically but it also had a weird message of 'and see this fake magic thing we're pretending is real is actually better than the way police normally interrogate people because it's just focused on forcing confessions more than finding truth' and like...yea fake magic pseudo-science show fair play there.

Ekman's research is pretty legit, actually. If you've ever read any of his books he's very clear about the limits of his research. None of it is magic fool-proof ways of telling whether people are lying or not. His research fundamentally started with trying to figure out how emotions and physical expressions of emotions are related (turns out it's mostly genetic and not learned) and that kind of branched out into figuring out what goes on when people lie. There are two terms he even coined that address a lot of common pseudo-scientific ideas about lie detection. The first is the Brokaw Hazard, named after Tom Brokaw who claimed that he could always tell when people are lying because they start talking in roundabout, evasive ways. Ekman asserted that any kind of guideline like that fails because for some people those behaviors are their baseline behaviors, and that you have to take into account how people normally act before you can claim they're lying because you picked up on physical tells. The other is the Othello Error, named after the Shakespeare character, which asserts that identifying an emotion doesn't reveal the cause of the emotion. For example, if you accuse someone of lying and they appear to be scared, they'll look the same whether they're scared because they're afraid of getting caught or because they're afraid you won't believe they're innocent. That last one is really important for understanding why lie detector tests are absolutely useless, since all they can do is determine whether your emotional state is heightened, and he's pushed to have them removed from use in the justice system

Lie to Me, itself, is an exaggeration of what's actually possible from his research. IIRC when it was airing one of his students ran a blog as a companion piece to the show pointing out exactly what was real and what was dramatized for TV

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

JJBA rules and there are lots of reasons it's popular with the queer community. Sure, some parts of it definitely haven't aged well, but it's been an insanely influential piece of media well beyond its own medium

Also part 2 ends with the protagonist in a fight against a perfect immortal indestructible being. He gets in a plane to fight but ends up crashing it into a volcano. In the fist fight that ensues, he gets his hand cut off, but the devastation of their fight causes the volcano to erupt, launching his dismembered hand at his opponent, uppercutting him into outer space. Unable to propel himself in any way, his opponent slowly continues drifting further and further away through space for eternity. If that kind of ridiculous nonsense doesn't sound even a little fun to you, you've got no heart

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Improbable Lobster posted:

It was the bad gay stereotype that really got me

Leeron's the best character in the show, though

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

pentyne posted:

Some decades on, someone should really amend that Truffat quote, because it's not as deep as it sounds when you realize that for some people concepts like irony and sarcasm fly completely over their head and even getting a giant banner that screams "WAR/FASCISM/RACISM IS BAD" covering half the screen they would still watch and cheer their side engaging in horrific behavior.

I don’t know if it needs amending because that’s kind of the point of it? No such thing as an anti-war film because satire is lost on people and the only thing they see is “cool gun!”

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

mandatory lesbian posted:

This is jarhead

Jarhead is probably the closest thing to a successful anti-war movie I’ve seen. The whole experience of being a recruit seems miserable, more of the characters die to friendly fire than anything else, and the protagonist accomplishes absolutely nothing over the course of the movie except risking his life and wasting his time

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

It's still in service of showing how hard war is on our boys instead of the people getting bombed

Yup. Case in point:

quote:

TIME magazine's Richard Schickel wrote, "But the best war movies—and this one, despite its being overlong and repetitive, is among them—hold that men fight (or in this case, are ready to fight) not for causes, but to survive and to help their comrades do the same".

Nothing will ever get through to some people

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

IShallRiseAgain posted:

The Japanese novel Tale of Genji (the first novel ever written) has elements of erotic incest in it.

I’m pretty sure there’s cave art somewhere that’s about someone wanting to gently caress their sibling

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Jedit posted:

People have been making that forever. It's just called erotica instead of porn.

Cowards. Sobatchja is on to something. Give me some high stakes thriller where the protagonist is a Bond-like figure who has to do spy poo poo except instead of having a gun he’s extremely good at jerking dudes off

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Mr Interweb posted:

oh thanks for the new avatar, GUYS :argh:

lmao, that's funny as hell. Wear your red text with pride

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

By popular demand posted:

I read somewhere that acetaminophen suicides are quite common in the States too as they are a lot easier to get than sleeping pills.

Oh boy, an excruciating death over several days as your organs slowly fail in a process that’s largely irreversible after a certain point. Of all the ways to go

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Kaiju Cage Match posted:

Sad Dad Games where the main character has a big butt.

Metal Gear!?

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

I enjoyed Bioshock 2 a fair amount but the moments I enjoyed the most were the handful of times that you, a big hosed up bioengineered dude in a diving suit with a drill, end up in a room with another character that you can choose to kill for story reasons, and instead rummaging through all their drawers and shelves, slamming back every bottle of liquor, eating every potato chip, and smoking all their cigarettes in the span of approximately 30 seconds before running back out the door to do whatever the gently caress you have to do next

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

John Murdoch posted:

I still wanna know how the gently caress Delta eats his potted meat while locked inside a diving suit.

I like to imagine it has a hatch on the front

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

BioEnchanted posted:

He uses his breathing grate like a child's play doh mold, and just forces the food through it.

:hmmyes:

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Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

The Moon Monster posted:

Roguelike used to mean games that were basically like Rogue, to be fair. Then it became a trendy marketing term and now it's basically meaningless.

To me at least it means "game with a fairly short run-through time that expects you to run through it over and over unlocking stuff until you can actually beat it," and it's fine as part of a larger descriptor. Like maybe it's an action-adventure rogue-like, or a deck builder rogue-like, or whatever. I generally don't like rogue-likes apart from Hades, so it's quite handy for me

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