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BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

https://twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/status/914863875979345922
https://twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/status/914996602649088000

:thunk: I'm for stricter gun laws, but this guy's argument has some questionable parts to it.

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BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

yronic heroism posted:

:wrong:

Also Saddam basically got removed because he was seen as a bad guy in a strategic region and Bush thought that was a good enough reason. Society was scared into going along but the actual WMD claim was an obvious pretext. The genocide was a definite part of pointing out Saddam was a bad guy. Many of our Bold Internet Leftists would fall in love with the war if only the guy was explicitly calling himself a Nazi instead of a rebranding. Which isn't surprising considering how many neocons are converted radical leftists.

Who are these Radical leftist who fell under the power of the horseshoe and became neo-conservatives?

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

JeffersonClay posted:

There's nothing wrong with attacking prison labor, and if you were calling out FDR as a slaver each and every time his name is mentioned nobody would be suggesting you were using prison labor as a cudgel. But you don't. It's weird to focus on a few dozen convicted murderers working in the governors mansion and ignore a hundred thousand Japanese Americans, denied due process, building infrastructure for no pay, if your real goal is to dismantle the state's use of unpaid prison labor.

Amazing.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

WampaLord posted:

FDR died before any of us were born you loving moron.

Did you know that Karl Marx invested money in STOCKS?!?! Why aren't we talking about that guys???

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

VitalSigns posted:

I'm glad he's alive. I was worried Helsing's goodposting had atomized him and I was going to suggest someone go round his house to check on his pets.

You have to have empathy for other beings to have pets.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Nobody talks about the GOP's stance on things because it's well known that they are complete poo poo. It's like getting pissy about us not taking into consideration flat-earthers in a discussion about the orbit of the ISS.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012


Seeing this poo poo play out in the Trump thread is both hilarious and infuriating.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Condiv posted:

looks like the manchin defender has logged on

do you wanna pat him on the back for finally being pushed to not support nazi policy? last i checked dems should be resisting fascism and fascists, and yet joe here seems to love the fascist in chief so much he can't help but hug the guy and want to support his reelection

Hey man, sometimes you have to pander to people who support the genocide of entire populations to get re-elected.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Harik posted:


E: Why is there this bizarre insistence that the russia investigation is just about some ad buys? Directing the campaign through known operatives, espionage, massive bribery and probable blackmail on a sitting president has nothing to do with 'hurr they couldn't have swung enough votes to make a difference' Even without a tromp win his nomination let them rewrite the GOP platform to loosen sanctions due to their illegal annexation of a neighbor. That's... not nothing.

That's all poo poo Isreal does and both parties can barely keep from sucking that country's dicks over murdering Palestinians.

Edit: same with the Saudis too.

BadOptics fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Sep 23, 2018

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Actually I support the abolishment of the Senate and SCOTUS, which was in the 1912 Socialist platform and seems like a necessary step to start getting "consent of the governed".

Just looked this up and god drat it's sad that it's taken over 100 years for the US to even start inching its way towards this poo poo.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Helsing posted:

Reminder that by Schumer's own account his political compass is literally a family he made up that have the ideas he just kind of assumes they'd have. Also when he meets actual human beings who are roughly the same demographics as his imaginary couple he's openly dissapointed that they don't match his deal.

You can't make this poo poo up:

Gotta love the fact most, if not all, of our government is being run by olds who's brains are at best half melted and consumed by plaque. I forget the one story where someone who works in DC said they were shocked by the amount of meds prescribed for that stuff.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Office Pig posted:

Going from Russian bots to GRU agents is something magical, I tell you hwat

It's pretty hilarious seeing centrists become the insane conspiracy theorist they mocked only a few years ago.

Edit: also, the reason why all the Trump thread posters suck poo poo is that politics is merely a team sport to them and every last one of them lack a moral/policy framework to their political beliefs. That's how you get people saying they'd vote for loving Hitler if he was (D-OH).

BadOptics fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Oct 6, 2018

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Not a Step posted:

You're not even in it to improve life for anyone, just to win your game of sportsball against Rival Team.

I mean, I'm not surprised, but I didn't expect you to state it so plainly.

Fulchrum is an affluent white male; he has nothing to lose in maintaining the status quo. Millions dead in the third world due to climate change by 2100? Well, you just gotta work with the capitalist system you've been given and make it suck a little less for us in the 1st world. Every other industrialized nation has a way to provide healthcare to their citizens in a sane manner any yet in the US people go into extreme debt for basic medical care? Well them's just the breaks.

No loving wonder third way centrists hemorrhaged seats at the local, state, and federal level. People want things to be better, not "suck less".


Fulchrum posted:

That part kind of takes care of itself if you just remove all political agency from the people actively trying to make the world worse.

I didn't think "When you stop people who are making things worse from making things worse, things get better" needed to be explained.

That's not how the real world works; you can still stop horrible poo poo from happening and then do jack poo poo to improve people's lives. See 2008-2016 where basic poo poo like "Do gay men and women have to right to marry someone of the same sex?" required the population to drag an "evolving" Democratic Party to the answer of "Of course yes you dipshits". Or letting the financial sector and corporations totally off the hook for almost nuking the global economy.



In the context of lovely US politics I guess that's correct; in any other country they wouldn't even be close to the left/center.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Lightning Knight posted:

I do not disagree with you or the spirit of the post he made, just that, that phrasing distorts who was actually doing the work of getting the Democrats to get better on the issue and obtain rights for LGBT issues.

Yeah, saying "the population" is a bit to broad in hindsight, but I think we're on the same page in terms of what I was trying to get at.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Ardennes posted:

To be fair, maybe it is time for both sides to "learn to live with each other" and having Trump and the rest of US Politics separated doesn't make much sense rhetorically. That said, I can understand from the perspective of moderators since that thread is going to be to be lit.

I guess one way to do need a pretty strictly defined rule on what is qualified to be a report.

I remember a former mod a few days ago giving LK the advice of "if it's not breaking the SA forum rules, just mark the report as resolved", so hopefully that's the game plan.

Edit: And no racism/slurs.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Condiv posted:

wait, there's actually people cheering for someone to die at the hand of fascist death squads in the trump thread?

If there's one thing I've learned from the Revolutions podcast, it's that the comfortable centrists/middle class will 100% of the time align with the right wing/reactionaries.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012


SURELY he's not talking about the compassionate conservatives of the early 2000's who cause hundreds of thousands of deaths for no loving reason, right?

E: Read this post with a lethal dose of sarcasm please.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

WampaLord posted:

Oh, look at that, it's Fulchrum being smugly wrong about something he's so loving sure about, YET AGAIN!

https://twitter.com/JediofGallifrey/status/1057673535475380225

LMAO.

BadOptics fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Nov 1, 2018

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

WampaLord posted:

Credit where credit is due, he did disavow it:

https://twitter.com/JoeCrowleyNY/status/1057690429339111425

But still, this could have been easily avoided if he just took his name off the ballot like he was asked to.

Yeah, it's just so loving stupid either way.

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BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Malleum posted:

and who comes flying in from stage left, right on cue lol

It's amazing the these idiots don't realize that the GOP IS Trump/white nationalism/fascism. You can't be loving be bipartisan without passing poo poo Trump wants.

Edit: Mitch McConnell literally hosed Obama over in public over a milquetoast SCOTUS nomination and they want to turn around and give each other handjobs.

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