[Asia/Oceania] Yellen says she hopes China wont mount retaliation against any steps Washington takes

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exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

probably already posted but this is hosed up

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-06-13/the-u-s-is-purging-chinese-americans-from-top-cancer-research

# ¿ Jun 24, 2019 10:27

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 17:24

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGSAmuOEzWc

lol at them using a talkback radio host as an expert commentator

# ¿ May 27, 2021 11:16

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

https://twitter.com/RealAlexRubi/status/1403800961508806659

# ¿ Jun 14, 2021 08:19

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

trying to (dis)prove indigeneity with genetics or 'blood purity' or whatever is extremely fail

# ¿ Jun 17, 2021 06:54

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

can't trust em

# ¿ Jun 20, 2021 03:53

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lol fojar is mad

these guys are freaking crazy O_o

# ¿ Jun 20, 2021 05:39

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Some Guy TT posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/china_takes/status/1410745930119217152

like half of pekingology is directly translating idiomatic expressions and getting all yellow peril about it lol

# ¿ Jul 3, 2021 10:51

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Homeless Friend posted:

i like winners

# ¿ Jul 13, 2021 07:32

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

https://twitter.com/LunaOi_VN/status/1417280407578451980

# ¿ Jul 20, 2021 11:45

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

crepeface posted:

i regret to inform you that bernie has taken another loss

https://twitter.com/chenweihua/status/1420044719736991748?s=20

bernie's 'major countries' bit has always sucked

# ¿ Jul 28, 2021 07:36

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

victims of communism is a holocaust revisionist org... hosed up if you're not allowed to criticise zenz etc

# ¿ Aug 4, 2021 09:18

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

we (nz) got 1 community case on tuesday, went into a hard lockdown that night. as of tonight (saturday), there are 51 confirmed cases and around 10k close contacts in isolation.

zero covid is the only moral position, and the chinese method works... simple as that

# ¿ Aug 21, 2021 10:04

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

crepeface posted:

edit: exmarx did you get banned or have an avatar before or something

someone blanked the tiananmen square av i got given for either criticising the bellingcat boys, or saying the yellow peril gbs thread is bad

# ¿ Aug 22, 2021 00:16

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Atrocious Joe posted:

are western countries really going to try to paint China's COVID elimination strategy as bizarre and unsustainable. I know they are annoyed at lockdowns disrupting supply lines.

yup, they're doing the same with us. "here's why stopping thousands of people from dying is actually bad" etc.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2021 07:09

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

crepeface posted:

lmao that memorial statue of mccain

he's raising his arms lmfao

# ¿ Aug 26, 2021 07:04

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

# ¿ Aug 26, 2021 12:31

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

'great things'? she's a troop :fuckoff:

# ¿ Aug 27, 2021 13:19

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

like 99% of pekingology is pointing at the least charitable translation of chinese idioms etc. it rules

# ¿ Sep 5, 2021 10:29

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Some Guy TT posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Anne_MarieBrady/status/1434713145067462659

brady sucks so bad. she accused a nz chinese mp, who migrated at age 5, of being a spy for the cpc lol
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/05/labour-candidate-naisi-chen-outraged-to-be-cited-in-anne-marie-brady-s-china-paper.amp.html

# ¿ Sep 7, 2021 11:32

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

LimburgLimbo posted:

Kinda burying the lede here that another ethnically Chinese MP literally admitted to being a former spook/working for Chinese intelligence (edit: for clarity he denied being a spy himself but admitted to training spys in English and communications monitoring or some poo poo) before and then resigned because of it, and that Chen was the president of one of those Chinese student organizations which are on pretty shaky grounds as to their relation to Chinese intelligence seeing as there's been accusations of them monitoring overseas Chinese for dissident political activities lol

Yeah evidence is circumstantial and I'm sure plenty of racists love digging into poo poo there but it's not like she was named purely because she's ethnic Chinese. She had leadership roles in organizations which are accused of being auxiliaries for Chinese intelligence. Both said accusations and her purported involvement may be total bullshit, and they're obviously politically motivated, but it's not like it's coming from nowhere and they randomly accused someone just because they're ethnically Chinese.

if i was a global fellow of the kissinger institute and published by the national endowment of democracy, i would personally think twice before accusing others of acting in the service of foreign intelligence agencies

# ¿ Sep 8, 2021 10:34

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Stringent posted:

the professor is?

yeah

# ¿ Sep 8, 2021 11:23

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

right, so bombing 20% of a country's population to death is 'genocide' now? tankies :rolleyes:

# ¿ Sep 15, 2021 14:07

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

OhFunny posted:

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1438310477923188740?s=19

this is such dumb framing lol. nz decides not to abandon standing policy following alliance by 3 other countries???

# ¿ Sep 16, 2021 05:12

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1439124981607190531?s=21

lol

# ¿ Sep 21, 2021 07:17

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

my own dumb take is that the common factor that actually enabled an effective response is (a) they're all unitary governments that are (b) willing to exercise state power to introduce + enforce public health measures.

i just don't know about japan � how much decision-making is delegated to the prefectures?

Office Pig posted:

scientists are some of the most blinkered sons of bitches on earth

yeah lol

# ¿ Sep 21, 2021 08:14

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

# ¿ Sep 24, 2021 14:47

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

depression gun ftw

# ¿ Sep 29, 2021 10:31

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Dreddout posted:

Xi jinping is doing irl squid game

aw man, i was saving this joke lol

# ¿ Oct 3, 2021 07:21

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

as we continue to fight within our own borders as western nations,

# ¿ Nov 6, 2021 05:07

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

ren hang ftw

# ¿ Nov 16, 2021 06:09

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

nz govt has come out vaguely in support of the solomons govt, which tbh i wouldn't expect if the protests were a meaningfully u.s.-backed regime change thing

quote:

Aotearoa New Zealand is deeply concerned by the events which have been unfolding in Honiara, Solomon Islands, since Wednesday.

�New Zealand is a long-standing partner of Solomon Islands, and there are deep and enduring connections between our two countries,� Acting Foreign Affairs Minister David Parker said.

�Our engagement in Solomon Islands is guided by the principle of tātou tātou, or all of us acting together for the common good. We stand with the Government and people of Solomon Islands through this difficult time.

�New Zealand welcomes the generosity shown by our close friends Australia in deploying Australian Federal Police and Australian Defence Force with such urgency. They have responded to a direct request from the Solomon Islands Government which takes place under the Australian-Solomon Islands bilateral security treaty, and we are confident their actions will help calm the situation,� David Parker said.

New Zealand will remain in close contact with our Solomon Islands counterparts and international partners. No requests for assistance from the Solomon Islands Government have been received at this point.

�We have long-standing partnerships with Solomon Islands, including through the New Zealand Police, who are currently providing advice and support to the Royal Solomon Islands Police Force on the ground,� David Parker said.

# ¿ Nov 27, 2021 03:12

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300466992/solomon-islands-requests-support-from-nz--troops-assembling-at-linton

the solomons government has asked for nz military support

# ¿ Nov 30, 2021 11:01

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/f_bartoloni/status/1467553500963950593?s=20

The perfidious Chinese

why couldn't they find data for nz and australia

# ¿ Dec 7, 2021 05:15

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

AnimeIsTrash posted:

revive tito and bring back yugoslavia imo

# ¿ Dec 8, 2021 07:19

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

thatfatkid posted:

Posting this as an example of the smoothbrainedness we're dealing with. Literally just making poo poo up to substitute reality with their dumbass politics.

that guy has previously been banned for his opinions on the age of consent

# ¿ Dec 20, 2021 05:17

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Stringent posted:

great, go to Tokyo and you'll find plenty of non-white people. they're all immigrants.

still trying to come to terms with this guy claiming there aren't any japanese people in tokyo

# ¿ Dec 22, 2021 07:03

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

one thing I hate about the discourse on American elections is people act like the American people are entirely blameless and separate from their government, which is stupid because s majority of the Americans obviously agree with th Republicans and Democrats, which is why they keep winning.

that's right

# ¿ Dec 24, 2021 01:45

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Some Guy TT posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/isaacstonefish/status/1474472073653374980

what a piece of poo poo lol

# ¿ Dec 25, 2021 05:34

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

happy 128th birthday to chairman mao!

# ¿ Dec 25, 2021 23:57

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 17:24

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

LimburgLimbo posted:

Was wondering this myself, and it seems there's actually some interesting lore there, with people claiming specifically that that unit was made up of a bunch of people who largely chose what they saw as the lesser of two evils to fight against the USSR. Very little info available in English for such a niche thing, but for example this book about the unit has the blurb:

Not idea if that book really backs those claims well or not, but it's if nothing else probably illustrative about what a bunch of people in Ukraine probably believe, and that interpretation potentially makes some sense when you consider the background of the Holodomor that you might take up arms with people you probably don't like against the guys that (if nothing else they believed) intentionally starved millions of people in your country to death. Probably there's some leftist takes on the Holodomor and I'm not familiar with whatever debate there might be but ngl I'm gonna err on the side that Stalin did some hosed up stuff.

That unit of the SS btw formed the core of The Ukranian National Army which was meant to centralize all the Ukrainian units that were fighting against the Soviets, but seems to have been only pretty loosely under German control at the time it was formed, a couple months before German se

This guy's story from the same era also gives some interesting illustrative anecdotes:

Dude literally went from a concentration camp to being put under the structure of the SS because the Nazis were that desperate to get more warm bodies to fight the Soviets at the time, and the dude was apparently okay with making that deal to fight back against the Soviets at that time.

So I'm guessing that if that tweet is true (that tweet is literally the only thing I can find in English mentioning this btw so who knows) I'm guessing that it's focused upon people who were known individuals famous for fighting against the Soviets, given the current political climate, and is willing to overlook the connections to the SS while doing that.

That whole era and all the places and peoples between the Stalin-led USSR and Nazi Germany were a loving mess with all the conflicts and splinter groups and people holding their nose and joining either side, or just fighting against all sides, and a fuckload of people who didn't actually like the Nazis (again look at above example of Taras Bulba-Borovets who went from anger at his own people for lynching Poles in some of their endless ethnic bullshit, to Nazi concentration camp, to literally being under the SS shortly after) ultimately fought with them because they saw them as the lesser evil, just as various groups in the middle east and central asia fight with or against various terrorist/freedom fighter groups or the US because they see one or the other the best ally for their intended goals even if they really don't loving like them.

Another example of this is the commander of the aforementioned Ukrainian National Army who was part of the Russian military, then fought for Ukraine against the Russian forces, then worked for the Ukrainian gov't in exile, then was a Colonel in the Polish Army fighting against the Nazis, then was a POW, got released, worked at a movie theater while giving shelter to Polish underground members being hunted by the Gestapo, then went on to become the head of the Ukrainian National Army which was technically under German command. Literally in the space of a year helping the underground against the Nazis and keeping people safe from the Gestapo, to being technically the leader of a large military force, with a core of people from an SS unit, that is under the blanket of the German command (but maybe had a level of independence? not super clear).

So, yeah, in most contexts and in the West in general people are going to shy away from lionizing anyone who touched the Nazis at all, but reality is way more complicated, *especially* in that era and place, and Ukrainian national lore from that era probably makes a lot of compromises there that come off as real uncomfortable from outside perspectives or for people who see the complexities of that era and the conflicts, so make of it what you will I think, but there's more there in general than just going "yo this dude who was in the SS fuckin rocked", and though there's not much info on him I can find personally, he's probably seen as one of these Ukrainian nationalist who threw their lot in with Germany in the hope they could work out something better than what the Soviets gave them back when, et al.

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# ¿ Dec 30, 2021 03:16

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