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Mr Hootington posted:After reading this I am convinced China might be hosed too lol Nah China will be fine because unlike the US they realize this is all imaginary bullshit and are just using capitalism as a tool to get others to finance their industrialization.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2021 04:25 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 19:24 |
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stephenthinkpad posted:Don't Aussie build those Ford Falcon Mad Max car anymore? No both Ford and Holden shut their plants down.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2021 16:22 |
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indigi posted:what does Japan spend all that money on Japan's military acquisition is maybe even more corrupt than the US. The zaibatsus have even less distance between them and the government. That and they have laws that their arms dealers can't export. So the market for their goods is very small which means they have to change more.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2021 23:28 |
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SporkOfTruth posted:hence the involvement of the Marubeni corporation (and the Yakuza!) in Japan's part of the Lockheed bribery scandal Yeah the Japanese government is mega corrupt and has been all but openly in bed with the Yakuza since the 50s.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2021 01:08 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/ANCALERTS/status/1439520211296608256?s=19 He's been an insane fascist for a while and has totally gotten away with it because he fought the mouthy black guy whites really hate.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2021 18:54 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:People are gonna gas themselves up to convince each other that voting for Pacquiao will be necessary lesser-evilism to stop another Duterte and it's gonna drive me insane He's literally Duterte's best friend and has been a staunch political ally so I don't know if even libs can do that. More likely they just ignore it like they always have.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2021 19:05 |
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hot witch divorcee posted:its been like 20+ years since the 90s, turns out deng wasn't loving joking and xi is DEFINITELY not joking, the millions of CPC members who have worked tirelessly for decades weren't joking, and the point of opening up and allowing and encouraging markets was actually, like deng said from the beginning, to develop productive forces to allow for material conditions necessary for a moderately prosperous society. the PMCs still knew how to run the factories, and were thus necessary, ask lenin about it, as well as there needed to be incentive to work, grow, and make truly world-class poo poo in the first place hence allowing billionaires. i would also personally argue that billionaires are a necessary misdirection under american hedgemony to make hostile liberal capitalist foreign powers believe you are going down a path to liberalization that you simply aren't; i don't like them either but they seem to have worked well in that regard. the fact that most if not all of them are in the CPC, there's more of them per capita, and they have a much lower multiplier of median/average net worth than in the us/west has demonstrated this and has been what brought me to be at peace with the idea. It's because the CIA and other fieveyes thugs have infiltrated the western left and have been subverting it for decades now.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2021 22:46 |
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hot witch divorcee posted:yeah but im still going to mouth off about it because it sure took me a long time to find out the truth (that china and the cpc are super loving based) because any time any western leftist brought up china it was like "well they're just state capitalism/capitalism with red flags" and well yeah working in tech and knowing things like how lovely foxconn is (but not really knowing much about the difference between a taiwan or hong kong company and a mainland one) and how lovely 996 schedules are it was really easy to uncritically swallow. always been a big dprk fan though so i at least recognized that china loving around with market influence allowed the dprk to avoid it. but then i met pro-china marxist-leninists and was completely gobsmacked by how much has been kept from me. Yeah there's little excuse for academics at least given as anyone can freely travel to china and see things for themselves. I think a lot of leftists simply didn't take the CPC at their word. We've been lied to and hoodwinked so many times that we thought the CPC was just going to push the communism button. Then they did it. People are starting to catch on now at least, although Langley's goons still have total control of the press and most of academia.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2021 23:20 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i don't take issue with the rest of your post, which was interesting, but i don't find this hard to believe Yeah the CIA is probably extremely stupid which is befitting an organization founded by Nazi sympathizers, schizophrenics and a few actual Nazis.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2021 23:52 |
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Deified Data posted:How is the Russian Communist Party anyway? Are they what they say on the tin or a vehicle for nationalist weirdos? Bit of both. The CPRF is uniquely cursed in that they have won several elections but have not taken power. The brief time they sort of did Boris Yeltsin just shelled the capitol.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2021 00:00 |
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mila kunis posted:i think the dengists were always pretty clear about what they were about. there's probably a mix of reasons why the west didn't care: Also the west wasn't using a scientific (Marxist) analysis of politics whereas the Chinese are. American capitalism has no real ideological rooting and what little is there is complete voodoo compared to the science of Marxism.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2021 01:22 |
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Danann posted:You can basically read D&D (or be exposed to them via Discord) to see how the Western political elite think and want to do. It's full of garbage that thinks that there's this nebulous current of ultranationalism that's propelling a 1984 state to crack down on everything and that there's secret gigadeathcamps etc. etc. etc. Never once was Marxism or Communism seriously entertained as something that's guiding the CPC's actions, because according to China watchers they're not actually Communist at all. Yeah I'm increasingly thinking though that this whole plan came about because the CPC, being Marxists, used scientific reasoning to find a way to essentially force capitalism to defeat itself. China gladly absorbed all the West's industry and technology and was richly rewarded for it, because they put themselves in a situation where the very nature of free market capitalism ensured their success. Western firms, driven by an absolute need to maximize profits by any means necessary, had to go to China. It's brilliant really.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2021 08:13 |
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Ferrinus posted:i'm late to this discussion but i think it's important to keep in mind that deng's strategy wasn't a trick that could only work insofar as it successfully fooled the west. capital literally cannot help itself - if the opportunity for investment and the creation of billionaires appears in a country, investment has to flow into that country because capital abhors a vacuum. no doubt the CIA was telling itself "heh heh heh they don't realize they're not going to be able to stop us" while other parts of it were telling themselves "heh heh heh we've finally won", and no doubt some of the CPC was telling itself "heh he heh they don't realize we're going to stop them" while other parts were thinking "heh heh heh they don't realize i'm a capitalist roader", but it doesn't really matter because the west simply cannot control its own capital, and when left to its own devices capital behaves predictably Yes the Chinese created a situation where American capital was essentially forced to defeat itself. Had America put even a few regulations on Capital they could have stopped this but America would rather cut it's own throat than do that.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2021 21:42 |
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PawParole posted:The soviets were horrible allies to China and North Vietnam. They forced Ho Chi Minh to accept the Geneva Treaty. They always kept their eyes on the European front and gave the rest of the world a secondary importance. They also built the entire air defense network in North Vietnam (one of the largest and best in the world), formed, equipped and trained the entire air force and provided experts and technicians plus a lot more. Soviet specialists even died in battle. It's really not a stretch to say the North probably would have lost if not for Soviet support. China did not have the technology or production to provide these things in the 1960s.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2021 01:15 |
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Is Lithuania the one with statues commemorating the SS or is that Latvia?
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2021 00:01 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:this is a messaging shift because "china is strong and powerful" might lead some to think "let's not fight them but find a way to work things out." the propaganda line instead turns into "we have to fight china because they're weak and will lash out and strike us first" It'd actually own to be paid shitloads of money to be wrong but if I was doing that I'd at least write something cool instead of dull nerd poo poo.
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2021 02:20 |
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Red and Black posted:It instantly brought to my mind the recent revelation that under Trump, Mark Milley had to call his counterpart in China to assure him that the US wasn't going launch a surprise nuclear attack against China. The worry being that China might attack US forces in the indo-pacific to preempt a perceived imminent attack by the US. This mad man posturing really does gently caress with the heads of the leadership of China and the US is playing a dangerous game. Yes the US has done this for a while it's the same poo poo we did with the USSR and very nearly led to war. The Soviets seriously believed that America was run by absolute bloodthirsty maniacs. And they were right
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2021 19:28 |
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dead gay comedy forums posted:incidentally I googled about theoretician courses in china and holy loving poo poo so much awesome stuff Actually more and more convinced Bitcoin is a CIA op to make it easier for them to transmit and launder money every day ngl.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2021 00:26 |
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KomradeX posted:This song is rad as gently caress, but I always felt that American claims of Soviet pilots in North Vietnam to be cope cause they couldn't believe 1) they lost and 2) non white people beat them There is, was and likely always will be zero evidence that Soviet pilots ever flew combat missions over Vietnam. So I mean it could have happened maybe but what's much more likely is that the Soviets simply trained the Vietnamese pilots. It's pure racism in other words. There's no reason why Vietnamese people if properly trained cannot be as effective pilots as anyone else.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2021 02:23 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:the north vietnamese air force was arguably the best in the world during the vietnam war, they actually had a positive kills to losses ratio despite being vastly outnumbered and using inferior hardware It was a lot more complicated than that. The Vietnamese had the luxury of being able to operate in their own territory and air defense umbrella, and they also had a lot of easier targets to shoot down, like bombers, recon and et cetera, whereas American fighters had to bust through the Vietnamese AA network and only fought other fighters. But yes the Vietnamese gave a good account if themselves, helped greatly by DoD acquisitions being so corrupt that the missiles which formed the core of US doctrine didn't work.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2021 01:45 |
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KomradeX posted:I remember the excuse for why that first generation of heart seeking missiles didn't work was because they were designed to shoot Soviet planes down over Germany, not over hot humid jungle They also said they didn't expect salt water to infiltrate the seeker heads or rocket bodies which is bizzare given as this was always a naval missile and you'd think even the slightest testing would have discovered that. But then again, the Pentagon let's the contractors run their own tests and often even set their own parameters so it's no great surprise they missed it.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2021 00:53 |
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the real question is how big do you think xis dick is? with biden we know from hunter that hes probably got a giant hog, but xi is a mystery.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2021 07:46 |
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XMNN posted:i skim read maybe half the post, and he's right the best part about that one was that it was literally written by an MI-6 propaganda agent under his real name and job title and everything and people still just lapped it up
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2021 07:56 |
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Hedenius posted:The concept of having Anthony Scaramucci explain what Chinese people think about the CCP was funny enough to get me to check what he has been up to after his very public humiliation. I was very surprised to learn that his wife didn't actually divorce him in the end. They worked things out and have a podcast together called "Mooch and the Mrs". Banning crypto isn't going far enough we should also ban crypto owners from breathing.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2021 01:28 |
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Man it's wild to see d&d libs rant about how China is doing mega genocide in Xinjiang and then post "evidence" which is literally the party specifically outlining educational, vocational, safety and health standards for the centers, even setting aside places where armed guards are not allowed and another paper stressing the importance of proper gathering, verification and custody of evidence. All of this sounds very not genocidal to me but they spin these wild yarns from entirely contradictory evidence.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2021 11:05 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i wanna buy this While on the topic of Vietnam, Giap is worth reading and it's quite tragic he gets so little attention given as he was the primary military leader of what is without a doubt the most successful leftist uprising in history. Dude beat the Japanese, French, Americans, South Vietnamese, Cambodians and Chinese all in a row with no real breaks, and beat all of them pretty badly. His book clearly outlines what he intended to do and why it works, and then he carried it out. As it turns out no one in the Pentagon had read his book because they are paid to be incompetent.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2021 00:30 |
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mila kunis posted:funny how the dipshits american liberals big up in foreign countries turn out to be reactionary shitheads Tradition goes back to Solzhenitsyn at least. Maybe these socialist countries aren't evil after all and do have good reasons to imprison these people...
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2021 18:08 |
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Nonsense posted:
This graph helpfully provided by the CIA, that is.
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# ¿ Nov 17, 2021 01:56 |
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The West's problem is capitalism and the only way you fix it is a communist revolution and lol. Lmao.l
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# ¿ Nov 17, 2021 05:58 |
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Atrocious Joe posted:If the US is trying to set up a Taiwanese Gladio, what flavor of psycho do they try to arm. The guys who want to be a Japanese colony again? The guys they've already been arming and supporting for 50 years?
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2021 18:40 |
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Atrocious Joe posted:The retired Taiwanese general that put out a statement saying the armed forces should coup the government and surrender to the PLA makes me think the US might be looking for new blood. Much easier for the CIA to just shoot him and find a more complaint figurehead.
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2021 19:26 |
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Finally got Xi's book when do I get to the sex scenes
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2021 18:43 |
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Goddamn it's loving wild seeing Biden's mossad press secretary coming out and demanding proof of life for a tennis player who has been posting with location enabled on Weibo the entire time. They really are out of ideas now.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2021 00:38 |
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Some Guy TT posted:oh yeah smart guy if shes not being oppressed then why did she stop posting no sane person ever stops posting If she's not oppressed why is she posting on Weibo instead of the CIAs captive social media?
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2021 00:51 |
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Some Guy TT posted:oh so that wasnt a picture of winnie the pooh it was just comrade xi The CIA tells me Pooh is banned in China and the mere mention of it makes Xi literally turn into a corncob so yes absolutely.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2021 01:05 |
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sexpig by night posted:the dumbest people online were so happy to draw xi as a bright yellow oaf, but ya know, to own him, for the people It was the HK fascists who really set it off, and their entire gimmick is just being really racist in hopes the queen will declare them honorary Aryans.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2021 04:02 |
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sexpig by night posted:flying the colonial flag to protest imperialism! They were protesting against the arrest of a man who beat his mainlander girlfriend to death and then fled justice in HK, but yeah, the CIA convinced people it was imperialism. In the good old days of British rule these freaks would have been allowed to abuse and murder mainlanders with no consequences, and they want that back.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2021 04:07 |
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Some Guy TT posted:surely peng shuais attendance at this event was advertised well in advance so its weird that none of our hardworking china beat journalists mentioned this amidst their speculation of her having been disappeared These are the same people who not only believed it when the CIA said Saddam had WMDs but then never questioned it in the decades after it was proven that he did not. In other words, they're loving shills for Langley.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2021 04:36 |
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mawarannahr posted:it’s all so draconian. why is Winnie the Pooh so scared of a teacher? Ngl that man looks like a pedo
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2021 05:18 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 19:24 |
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this poo poo just shows how desperate they truly are. its the flimsiest poo poo. when they said saddam was making WMDs, well, we couldn't prove he WASN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so who knows. but this, you can prove shes not dead or in a camp, like really loving easily. flimsiest poo poo
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2021 08:08 |