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The chaplain referred me to mental health because I was going to confession weekly, in his view hadn’t done anything particularly bad, but felt awful, and also I kept getting stuck on the fifth spiritual exercise of Saint Ignatius, and doing it over and over again every morning trying to get out of what I thought was desolation. (As opposed to a mental health condition)Saint Ignatius of Loyola posted:It contains in it, after the Preparatory Prayer and two Preludes, five Points and one Colloquy: Prayer. Let the Preparatory Prayer be the usual one. Apparently if you have trauma induced OCD, you can get yourself into a bit of trouble if you understand feeling bad = have done something to feel bad about. Idk, I was doing everything right…  ✅ interior sense of the pain which the damned suffer ✅ see with the sight of the imagination bodies on fire ✅ hear with the ears wailings, howlings, cries, ✅ smell with the smell smoke, sulphur, ✅ taste with the taste bitter things, like tears, sadness and the worm of conscience. Considering Saint Ignatius had been grievously wounded in a battle, which we would today call “a traumatic experience”, probably the pattern of thought isn’t unrelated. DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 05:16 on Feb 21, 2024 |
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fr0id posted:for what it’s worth, I think a good therapist is gonna be willing to go through this with you line by line word by word but then also challenge you line by line word by word. Thanks, I appreciate it. It’s been 10 years or so since I was steered towards MH, I’ve been seeing a good one for about 3 years. It took a while to try in earnest since it seems like softbody stuff that will make you lose your edge, but… you know, it does work. Karach posted:Men would rather found the Society of Jesus than go to therapy DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 09:32 on Feb 21, 2024 |
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You might be on the younger side of it, but the emotional elements of ADHD weren’t recognized until really recently, and so on top of whatever that entails - rejection sensitivity, intense emotionality, problems reading emotions - how people reacted to that during childhood is (was?) often not great. Boys with ADHD in the 90’s received verbal corrections or rebukes something like 20 000 more times than their peers between ages 5-12 according to one study, and girls with ADHD were considered hysterical. ADHD in women is still barely recognized. idk if that helps, just that the 90’s attitude “we gave you ritalin, everything after that is your fault” was not great and a lot of adults are carrying around things because of that.
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For sure, that makes sense. Depression is common in people with ADHD, and the emotional and processing parts of ADHD were often misdiagnosed as autism before that was understood. There are lots of recent books on adult ADHD that can help, just in terms of seeing what fits your experience and different strategies you can try. I think the main thing is that the loneliness and social isolation, trouble making friends, are also common in adults with ADHD both because of the condition itself and the emotional fallout from childhood and adolescence. So, don’t know if that helps, but it’s possible that a lot of what’s felt like your own shortcomings were in fact ADHD.
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crepeface posted:chapo tech guest has strong trashfuture loser energy He was 8 hours early to ChatGPT melting down and hallucinating like crazy, system wide.
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lol how many companies are relying on the enterprise version and having a very bad morning, do you think?
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Halloween Jack posted:Exactly! Have you noticed how the most terrible jeans in history are coming back in style? No accident. Which kind of jeans are those?
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There was a fairly popular book about how aesthetics and fashion were masculine domains that men were cruelly robbed of in the late 1800s. It came up in the context of Jordan Peterson dressing like a dandy and expressing himself in fashion choices like having stuff embroidered on the liner of his suit to remind him to be himself or something (?). DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 19:03 on Feb 21, 2024 |
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I think it was Men in the Mirror: Men's Fashion, Masculinity, and Consumer Society?
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Karach posted:is jorp really expressing himself by wearing tailored suits?    https://x.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1634990607918829568?s=20 DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 19:08 on Feb 21, 2024 |
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I just think it’s funny that he’s a bit of a queen. RETVRN.
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V. Illych L. posted:i don't hate the blue suit with the red tie, but it is not something a grown man who is not some manner of royalty and/or clown should be wearing It is all lobster themed though.
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Apparently he has some sort of fur trimmed velvet or velour suit too, but I can’t find a pic
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nice obelisk idiot posted:lol Jorp’s identity being something originally described by Foucault would push him over the edge
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Dokapon Findom posted:"Ice and Fire" Game of Thrones rear end suit He calls it his “Heaven and Hell suit”
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Nothus posted:Way too many somethingawful references. What was Zitron's username? Do you think he read LF (or CSPAM) or was a D&D type guy?
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New Cushbomb Spanish Civil War ep dropped https://soundgasm.net/u/ClassWarAndPuppies/809-Spanish-Civil-War-part-2-Falange-y-FAI-22224
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The chapo reddit thread is hilarious, they’re all convinced he was bad but I think Elon’s a joke, and he reacted appropriately.
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Karach posted:Ed also had hosed up opinions about diablo 2 iirc ???
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Breadallelogram posted:speaking of drew toothpaste, am I still not allowed to post pictures of people? Because the people involved look hilarious.
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In his first Chapo appearance he mentioned being in the Bay Area as a PR flak.
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Atrocious Joe posted:"we all believed in the promise of tech until the Cambridge Analytica scandal" was when I realized Zitron had great takes lol
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Yeah but then he want on Jordan Jensen’s podcast and affected apathy, made fun of people who “care”. Mike Recene popped off pretty hard on both of them this week.
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Dokapon Findom posted:Also whoever posted the Trillbillies episode on the Bal des Ardents I enjoyed it, never listened to those guys before but they have my seal of approval It's a fantastic podcast. It does make me wonder. For the Americans - does having an accent like they do lead people to believe you're dumb or uneducated? How do people usually deal with this? Do they affect a northeast accent when they are trying to enter a profession?
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So is there an American Henry Higgins that provides accent coaching, or do people just pick up the General American at university?
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gradenko_2000 posted:the bloomin' docta nicked me chompers!!!
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Dreylad posted:we have that here. the hoser accent, or more local to you, the ottawa valley accent absolutely makes people think you're dumb. i'm from the same area as the letterkenny guy and i toned it down quickly once I got to post secondary. I have yet to see that disproven 
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Nothus posted:His coverage of Ukraine is usually good too. Only right wing cranks get to have intelligent discussions about US foreign policy. I wonder if it's all because both Mearsheimer and Finkelstein are willing to go on their shows and that's how they get exposed to their ideas? Meanwhile, I'm getting increasingly angry at American Prestige and can't put my finger on why they're so... whatever it is.
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I have a limited pool of podcasts I can play on the speakers while cooking or doing the dishes without friction. The podcast that goes over various foreign policy disasters but assumes everyone had good intentions but incomplete information, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXoGek3R-P0 Is about as close as I can get.
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Best Friends posted:after a chapo episode in which they made fun of Obama i got relegated to headphones for all current and future podcasts while cooking/cleaning activities to maintain home harmony. this was years ago. She doesn’t even work at the Bloodmurder Institute For Strategic Anticommunism or anything either she’s just a regular left liberal who loves da dems baby. I could probably get away with a strictly non political podcast but then I’d have to be absolutely certain no negative views of any democratic official or policy appear and that’s not a certainty for anything outside the ever shrinking liberal bubble. Solidarity.
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Space Camp fuckup posted:She seems pretty normal otherwise
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Dalmuti posted:felix is finally as fat in real life as he has sounded on the mic this whole time Disheartening
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Telluric Whistler posted:Well iirc she's a drinker and does a lot of other Haram behaviors - which is fine, I know plenty of bacon loving Jews. November contains multitudes, many contradictory, so I see no issues with her next move is becoming trad or getting into beetroot and spirulina. What a serious person whose beliefs come across as sincere and deeply held
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Xaris posted:catching up on TAFS and lol nick spent $500k making TAFS??? drat what the heck That episode was loving grim. They both hate podcasting, Adam is not a driving comedic or artistic force, and Nick's moods are cyclical, which obviously gets in the way of steady output. Meanwhile, a fat Greek that will remain nameless can tour around the clock and churn out crowd work Shorts because he treats it like a job that you need to punch the clock at. It's not art, but it's wildly successful, and he's fat and happy, because he really just wanted success or his dad to love him, or whatever. I also think Nick has a lifelong pattern of self-sabotage, but that's really not something that should impede just booking someone for their talk show every week. e: though I still don't know if making Adam the host was worth it. I get the joke, but goddamn. DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 03:31 on Mar 4, 2024 |
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The fact that he apparently has become a sneaker head is so loving on brand for him lmao. All comedians turn into Tom Segura if they get enough money.
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ClassActionFursuit posted:I assume you're referring to Tom who, despite being southern, comes across as more sophisticated and thoughtful than your typical "southern accent". To those in the area he'd be made as an educated Kentuckian rather quickly. To those outside the area (like, say, the northeast) he'd just be pigeonholed as a dumb southerner. In the same way I'd have trouble distinguishing someone from Baltimore versus Philadelphia, they wouldn't be able to distinguish someone from Tennessee versus West Virginia. That's really interesting, thanks. If Kentuckians are schooled in Kentucky as opposed to out of state school, is there a more polished accent?
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TheSlutPit posted:This is the "socialist" btw: This isn't even loving entryism. What the gently caress kind of socialism is this? selec posted:regional accents rule, and they are disappearing. when I was a child I could tell the difference between southern, eastern and western Iowa accents. those differences are all disappearing. I have a few books on Canadian English and it unironically breaks my heart. We used to be a real country but boomers are addicted to television. ClassActionFursuit posted:I'm sure any amount of moving around in childhood would change one's accent. If you want to hear a baseline Kentucky accent, listen to a clip of Mitch McConnell from the 90s. If you want a distinct regional accent to compare to, listen to Al Gore, (which I'd say is standard Tennessee). You don't really hear either accent that strongly in today's speakers from the region except again in certain words, and since the advent of the internet it's much rarer to come across strong examples than it was. I could swear I was reading an essay about how Pygmalion was received in the US, and how the idea of being able to pick out someone's class and place of birth by accent made Americans in the audience uncomfortable, but I can't find it. I've heard that when they cast My Fair Lady on Broadway they choose the broadest, most exaggerated, cockney accent possible and there's no real effort by the actors for them to be accurate and consistent, which is also kind of interesting. DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 16:32 on Mar 5, 2024 |
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piss guzzler 420 posted:it’s liberalism op Vote for the "leftmost" candidate without a left strategy of electoralism or entryism just means... voting for liberal parties. So, you're right, but, jfc...
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Xaris posted:Are there any good papers or books about like the epistemology of 'conspiracies'? like how particular events become marginalized as 'conspiracies' in the first place and associated with schizo methies, how communication is used to reify as a cultural joke, how enough just information gets disseminated and undergoes diaspora in a sort of 'back-channel' way and how that even gets picked up, and how perception of or receptiveness of them to the masses changes and why it changes? Anything recent is completely clouded by Trump. For instance, Conspiracies and Conspiracy Theories in the Age of Trump: "Conspiracies and Conspiracy Theory in the Age of Trump stands out in the burgeoning literature on conspiracism with its call for political scientists to analyze not only “conspiracy theory” as political pathology but conspiracies themselves as political behavior symbiotically related to moral hazards and other forces unleashed by dark money, disinformation, changing technologies, and globalization. This new updated edition extends this analysis to the belief by many Americans that the 2020 election was stolen, resistance to social measures to counter the Covid epidemic, attempts by Trump and his allies to “stop the steal,” and the resulting mob insurrection at the Capitol on January 6. We likely will see both conspiracism and actual conspiracies play a greater role due to institutional decay in American politics. For this reason, political scientists need to analyse and theorize the role of conspiracies in politics―why they prosper and fail, how conspiracies may inflect political outcomes, what relationship they bear to social forces unleashed by great economic and social change." But then, half the chapters are "well this is true, "technically", but they had no logical reason for suspecting that, so it's a conspiracy theory" 5 Globalization, Populism, Conspiracism Suspicious Minds in the New World Order Immigration, Nativism, and Trump Wall Street and Monessen, PA Transnational Capitalism and the Nation-State Transnational Populism Trump, the Disrupter 6 Dark Money and Trumpism Dark Money and Operational Conspiracies Billionaire Cabals Democrats, Moral Hazard, Dark Money Political Science Meets Stealth Funding Show Us The Dark Money Trail Conspiracy Panic and Muckraking Dark Money as a Sphere of Conspiracism Dark Money and January 6 7 The Deep State, Hegemony, Democracy What Is the Deep State? What Is It Not? Parapolitics and Paramilitaries Conspiratorial Roots of National Security Ideology and Institutions Neither Monolithic Nor Unchanging Privatization of Surveillance and War Conspiracy Fiction, Conspiracy Reality Epic Scandals and the Deep State e: The Routledge Handbook Of Conspiracy Theories is 700 pages, and again, it is more concerned with how people came to conclusions they shouldn't have, rather than if their conclusions are actually true. They devote, I would say at least 30 pages, to reasoning that "misinformation" is about a failure of process rather than the information itself being substantively incorrect. So, they confidently write about the dangers of misinformation but... I don't know, I can't put my finger on it. Routledge has a whole series on Conspiracy Theories and one of the titles directly compares them to medieval heretics. Which, to me, is a problem. Because if the error here is heresy or heterodoxy, then whatever the conspiracy theories are in opposition to is an article of faith, isn't it? Is the objection here that people are losing their faith in western capitalist democracies, or that their critique of it is incorrect? Because honestly, it seems like they are responding to people becoming disillusioned by getting mad at the people, and trying to stamp it out, rather than anything like the Council of Trent, or Second Council of Lyon, that would actually address the crisis within "the church" of liberalism that is fuelling this error. Someone who understands liberalism better than I do could make more sense of it, but I do understand Late Antique and Early Medieval Heresy, and we aren't talking about debates over the nature of Christ here. Essentially, they are describing "populism" as the Fraticelli, uncannily so. A dangerous belief spreading among the common people whose errors are political in nature and critique the institution of the Church rather than error against God and the True Faith. IMO Liberals are accusing Conspiracy Theorists of the same things "Gloriosam ecclesiam" did the Spiritual Franciscans: (1) they designated the (institution) as carnal and corrupt, and themselves as spiritual; (2) they denied to the (leadership of the institution) all power and jurisdiction; (3) they forbade taking an oath; (4) they taught that (leaders of the institution) in the state of sin (did not have authority); and (5) they asserted that they alone were the true observers of the Gospel.* * In America, this would just be "the constitution", but in other settings you could say "democracy", "popular will" or anything else that means popular legitimacy, imo. I'm not saying Trump is Jan Hus or Martin Luthor or anything, but there's a reason liberals are so mad about conspiracy theories, and even more so when they're true - and it seems a lot of them are. DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 15:39 on Mar 6, 2024 |
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