Ytlaya posted:

Yes, while it's convenient in this specific election, it's concerning in the sense that it's very easy to imagine the Democrats running "Elizabeth Warren, except competent" and pulling in all of these people (plus a significant portion of people like the Warren supporters who switched to Bernie later in this primary after she did too many bad things*).

* this was actually better than I expected, though; I did not expect a non-trivial amount of Warren supporters to actually abandon her once she walked back MfA or made that false accusation against Bernie

Autism Sneaks posted:

she had an extremely rough upbringing growing up in loving Harlem and began her rise to becoming a meme for getting kicked off a plane after calling a flight attendant an ugly Irish bitch, lmao what the gently caress is this "she's not as brave or crazy as us REAL posters" poo poo. go outside fearless internet warrior

thotsky posted:

Matt's statute of limitations on canceling, or at least his premise that people won't have any incentive to come around to a woke social order if they can be held accountable for past misdeeds, is interesting and logically sound, but I think ultimately too much of an ask. Not just because the engineers of the new social order won't be willing to set aside their (mostly rightful) spite, as Matt seems to be suggesting, but because cancelling people for past misdeeds, and the looming threat that it might happen to you, is the engine of progress. Exposing people of note to consequences for their words and actions, and publicly humiliating them spreads and enforces the new social order. Yes, a lot of the people doing the cancelling have plenty of skeletons in their closets, and like Matt suggests some may simply have deluded themselves otherwise, but I think it's also likely that the contradiction is part of why it works; people are willing to conform to the new social order precisely because they have past sins and would rather play nice, lest they attract notice.

StashAugustine posted:

yeah the first trans people I've met were coworkers at a fast food place, meanwhile Tracey hasn't done anything with his life other than post

Epic High Five posted:

he's not gullible, he's in his 50's now and is tired of doing the same stories about the same disaster capitalism narratives so he's looking for a sinecure with centrists that have rich backers

not gonna get it tho lmao

bawfuls posted:

notably she's never put out a single episode of the supposed podcast

meanwhile Taibbi has spent this afternoon "canceling" a growing list of words from his twitter feed

bawfuls posted:

The problem isn't specific words (duh) it's twitter itself. If he hates seeing that poo poo on twitter the solution is to put down his fuckin' phone.

StashAugustine posted:

Percelus posted:

will sasso as kenny rogers was always funny af

MizPiz posted:

Eggs are absolutely meat, they're literally baby animals.

Gio posted:

holy gently caress the latest chapo is white noise

V. Illych L. posted:

it was a very decent episode too, pretty funny and refreshingly common sensical

V. Illych L. posted:

i have very limited understanding of american zoning laws, but my impression of cth's objection to YIMBY-ism is that they interpret it as a sort of deregulatory impulse - politics should retreat and let the force of nature that is the market fix it

like, they don't seem to have opinions about zoning, they just think that the doctrines of the people with opinions about zoning are weird and creepy

joepinetree posted:

There was an entire episode with one of the DSA co-chairs or whatever in SF about it.

I don't remember enough about that episode, but it should answer about their specific views.

But generally speaking the left argument against YIMBY-ism is essentially that this wave of YIMBYism is just about deregulation and creation of modern versions of company towns where it is all about building these large multiuse developments owned by some major corporation and aimed at creating "walkable" spaces for upper middle class people, rather than regulating and subsidizing things so that poor people have a place to live.

Cnidaria posted:

Yeah ultimately YIMBYism is putting the cart before the horse. Changing zoning laws and building more housing without measures like rent control in affect first is just giving real-estate developers free-reign to gentrify even more.

Trabisnikof posted:

Seems like people have legit and concrete issues with YIMBYs and you want to dismiss them as jerking-off by waving your hand and saying “ah ha, YIMBYism could mean something completely different than the way it is now.”

Like who cares that maybe theoretically YIMBYism could promote housing policies that are good when instead they’re palling around with CATO and more often than not toeing the exact developer line.

T-man posted:

Hmmm.... I wonder what time it is in Russia right now.... Comrade.....

Trabisnikof posted:

you saying that wanting in-fill development in the brownfields and improved infrastructure in poorer neighborhoods as "useless" is a better argument against YIMBYism than I could have made. cheers.

Xaris posted:

people don't want to live where there are houses

we want to live in portland/seattle/denver/nyc/downtown boston all of which have much pent-up demand of people who would want ot live there but cant afford it because there's no housing. nobody wants to live in branson and oklahoma city

Doc Hawkins posted:

thread in d&d

T-man posted:

Weembles, disagree with this and you will be cancelled to the second degree

Ytlaya posted:

So it's basically a red herring (at best) that diverts attention towards something that isn't a real solution.

THS posted:

probably the biggest strike against her is that she isn’t offensively radical enough in her writing, to the point where she’s allowed to be a WaPo columnist. truly shameful

Centrist Committee posted:

This feels directionally correct to me. My inch deep understanding of western philosophy and early 20th century history and is that the orthodox Marxist position was still riding the wave of modernity, but world wars, nuclear weapons, climate change, and a century of crushing alienation poisoned the well. We're in stuck in this frustrating, post-modern purgatory and we need some kind of synthesis of rationality and spirituality to get out of it.

Xaris posted:

You can upload it to libgen http://libgen.rs/ (genesis:upload is the user/pass), or throw it on a publically accessible google drive folder

Often Abbreviated posted:

it's tangential, but one of the minor things that peeves me about hellworld is how so many of the people providing commentary and context are literal clowns. how anyone you see or hear discussing politics in 2020 is guaranteed to have a tight five they worked up down at the barrel o' laughs

AnEdgelord posted:

What'd Chomsky even do to get all this left-wing clout anyway? I didn't come to left wing politics through him like so many other people so from where I'm standing it looks like hes just coasting off of one good book and spent the rest of his life being on a perpetual speaking tour.

Omnicarus posted:

Nope, and the one time they were like lol no chance with Doug Jones in Alabama, Doug ended up winning. Minus virgil, who touched the poop emoji and tasted victory that one time.

i say swears online posted:

if nobody said it yet itt, the trillbillies voted biden/mcgrath

Ramadu posted:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1322696114944929792

Victory Position posted:

the original wasn't gritty? it's as rough as it can be without forcing everyone to act out like Bill Murray

Farm Frenzy posted:

excited to hear an extremely stupid person on this forum insist that felix is an antisemite in about two months time

Zedhe Khoja posted:

They're always at their best trashing liberals.

Mr Hootington posted:

A documentary or a book would have been more appropriate.

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

complaining about a thread being off topic in cspam......... okay call the posting police dude