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is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002


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is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

LanceHunter posted:

I'll obviously support whoever gets the Democratic nomination, but man are a bunch of Sanders supporters going to be in for a massive surprise once he's running a race where the opposition isn't intentionally soft balling him because they want/need to get support from his fans. Everyone complaining about how mean Hillary is being to Sanders is in for a massive wake-up call if the Republicans ever start taking him seriously.

what exactly are they going to do that the dems and media haven't already? oh no they're gonna call him a communist

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002


When it comes crashing down and it hurts inside

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Mr Hootington posted:

Can't wait to see Anita Hill get brought up by republicans and buried by democrats.

Trump is 100% going to attack Biden for being a racist and a sexist and it is 100% going to work.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Cerebral Bore posted:

Triple H is never going to play second fiddle, and you know it.

I just imagined a HHH SotU speech and now my head hurts.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

evilweasel posted:

remember when center-right types won the house in 2018?

i remember when they voted for trump's military budget and did the most half-assed impeachment ever

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002


Some day Nathan Fielder will reveal that the entire Buttigieg campaign was his masterpiece.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Mellow Seas posted:

While rape is not funny, I do find it darkly humorous that Biden was able to work his catchphrase "come on, man!" into his assault.

I keep seeing people on Twitter use this as proof of his innocence by claiming that phrase has only been used by Biden in particular and people in general in the last few years, and absolutely nobody said in in the 90s.

What's the term when you gaslight yourself?

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Reporter: Would you say that Jason Vorhees has blood on his hands?

Me, getting ready for my stay at Camp Crystal Lake: That seems a bit harsh...

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

When the bar is buried 10 feet underground and you still can't clear it.

https://twitter.com/YGalanter/status/1246548730251284480?s=20

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Halloween Jack posted:

The Democratic Party is Kevin Nash: huge, rigging everything from behind the scenes, holding down everyone who could challenge him, and not actually working at all.

Looking forward to Biden giving Trump the fingerpoke of doom and then both of them tearing off their suits to reveal nWo shirts.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Stairmaster posted:



This is a huge loving problem. What are we going to do about this?

Hmmm maybe he can engage with the youths by having them describe how their permanent financial ruin makes them feel in 3 emojis or less.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Bernie is Biden's Cornel West. They'll keep him around the campaign to give the impression that there's room for the left, but if Biden wins they'll excommunicate him the moment he pokes his head up to say "uh maybe we shouldn't grind the poor into sausage" and have their media buddies smear him on the way out.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

*4 years later*

Look I know Joe Manchin isn't perfect but do you really want Eric Trump to be president?

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Oct 23, 2002

Ither posted:

I truly do not understand this kind of thinking.

Do you think nearly 50,000 people in the US would be dead right now if Biden were president instead of Trump?

Yes because it was the result of decades worth of degradation and privatization of our institutions, erosion of trust in our government and media, suppression of any kind of collective identity, the neoliberalization of our economy where everything is run on razor thin margins to maximize profitability and not because the bad orange man has total control over everything like he's playing Civ.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Pander posted:

Wow. Lots of people who found out they weren't personally affected by trump's policies the past four years eager to advocate against voting for Biden ITT

Lol is this really what you think? Maybe you were lucky enough to not be personally affected until 4 years ago, but most of us have been for the last 12 years. I graduated 2 months before the great recession hit and there's nothing I hate more than shithead liberals pining for the glory days of 09. Like this is what the people claiming that Biden *could* be good don't seem to get. I already lived 8 years under Biden and it sucked. You really told on yourself with this one.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

All liberals have at this point is shame. That's their only tool. They've been shaming the left from the moment they re-emerged into voting for their lovely corporate candidates, and in that time the party has only become weaker and the country has only gotten worse. I wonder if that's related some how.

If your argument is that Trump represents a unique and unprecedented threat to this country, you're right. But guess what, the next one is also going to be a unique unprecedented threat, one even worse than Trump. And the one after that, and the one after that. Every time you will shame us into voting for the lovely hand picked bought off corporate puppet that the Dems put up because this time is different.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Scientist Al Gore posted:

In the context of the 2020 US Presidential election, yes.

This time is different

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Oct 23, 2002

Scientist Al Gore posted:

If only that didn't enable someone so much worse.

You're enabling a worse Republican and Democrat in 2024 by supporting Biden. You enabled Trump by supporting all the lovely corporate centrist Dems up to this point.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

"We have to cooperate with the good cop. If we don't, the bad cop might come back in here and who knows what he'll do this time!!"

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Oct 23, 2002

Disnesquick posted:

This unity candidate sure is working out well.

Amazing how the narrative flipped from "most electable candidate!" to "look I know nobody actually wants to vote for Biden but you have to anyway because he's our only option" the moment Bernie dropped out.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002


I don't think the Biden switch is happening. I think instead you are going to see the liberal MSM gradually turn on him and depress his turnout to ensure a Trump victory. Trump has been a massive boon for them. He provides endless content which has led to record engagement and revenue for them, he cut their taxes, and it will let them keep up the charade of pretending to care about things like #metoo. It's win-win-win.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Just thinking about that time (less than a year ago!) that Biden suggested that black people don't know how to raise their kids and recommended they put the record player on at night to make them smarter.

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Oct 23, 2002

Phone posted:

Yeah, but if you go to the website of Joe Biden, a known liar and plagiarist, you can read about the most progressive platform the Democratic Party has ever had.

Also we literally just went through this with Obama. Biden was Vice President in an administration that ran on a progressive platform and then abandoned it the moment they won. I guess I'm expected to believe that he was secretly pleading with Obama to move to the left the whole time? Lucy and the football is not a strong enough metaphor for these people.

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Oct 23, 2002

evilweasel posted:

it's an endorsement released at 3pm on a tuesday. during a pandemic. it is buried about as hard as you can get so nobody else notices it.

hmm yes good point, i doubt the press will even bother to pick this up and who even reads the news during a pandemic anyway?

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

evilweasel posted:

ok, pretend i posted the like eight million sites not putting it anywhere near the front page instead of whatever that is

lol "just pretend that i'm right"

anyway i checked a bunch of MSM sites and every one mentioned the endorsement on the front page

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

If you say that you don't actually support Biden and you just want Trump out of office, then why are you passively waiting around for November or worse, actively campaigning for him? Why are you not instead agitating for him to drop out on the grounds that he's a loving rapist and be replaced with Bernie, the person that can defeat Trump that many of you claim you truly wanted?

I don't see any of you doing this though. You all keep saying Biden is the only choice.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Don't you see?? We had to kill #metoo in order to save it!

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Oct 23, 2002


Uh oh, looks like more and more voters are fed up with being shamed into supporting the lesser of two evils.

Genuine question for the Biden supporters ITT: What are you going to do when the shame stops working? What arguments do you have left?

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Oct 23, 2002

Malleum posted:

https://twitter.com/lizburgh/status/1255287529324019712

gonna have the controversial opinion that its a moral failing to empathize with people like this, actually

Okay I think we've reached the point where we can say that MSNBC fucks up brains harder than Fox News.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Can't help but notice that the Biden Defense Squad has disappeared.

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Oct 23, 2002

Mellow Seas posted:

It really makes it seem like some people are more interested in causing pain to people they hate, or being proved “right”, than trying to salvage anything out of this mess.

It's true, all they had to do to earn my vote is cause pain to the people I hate (capitalists), but they made their choice. Oh well.

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Oct 23, 2002

Grooglon posted:

The "Biden voters love rape" line of discussion here feels really... dude-ish.

Here's the thing: the vast majority of all powerful men have had a "grab her by the pussy" moment where they used their power to assault or forcibly coerce a woman to engage with them sexually. That includes politicians, CEOs, journalists, celebrities, whatever. You know the phrase "no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism"? Well I think most women have accepted that there is no such thing as ethically pure voting, particular in a country where any woman who runs (at any level) has to get past a tidal wave of misogyny.

Like, for me to exist in the world in a way that never puts a dollar in the pocket of a sexual assaulter or never helps a rapist gain more power would pretty much require me to live in a tree in the woods and eat leaves. As a woman and a sexual assault victim (a long time ago, but I include it here for context), I cannot adequately explain how much that fact sucks, but also we kind of have to learn to live with it to be part of this society.

Now, I'm not saying you have to vote for Biden -- I voted for Bernie at the state level and am still not sure what to do about November -- but not voting for Joe Biden is not some kind of magic bullet that absolves you from participating in a sexist society, and in turn voting for him is not the same as slapping an 'I <3 rape' sticker on your jacket. Women have had to plug their noses and vote for the gropey rear end in a top hat who is least likely to gently caress and gently caress over their daughters for .. well, ever since we got the right to vote.

I'm really tired of liberals telling me that things may not be ideal, but we have to do the best with what we have. Because we don't. We really loving don't.

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Oct 23, 2002

Popy posted:

maybe im super blackpilled at this point but i believe while Capitalism dictates policy fighting climate change is impossible home or abroad.


Right now the goal for Socialism is making sure the rich elite suffer with the rest of us when this planet turns to poo poo. Bernie for a million other loving reasons was the only fuckin option.


Capitalism will kill us all.

This is 100% correct. The argument over whether Biden would be better than Trump is absurd. It's arguing that the good cop is nicer to you than the bad cop.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Diddy gets it.

https://twitter.com/Diddy/status/1255295755696340992?s=20

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Oct 23, 2002

Mat Cauthon posted:

Diddy will be fine no matter who wins, this is a joke. How is he or anyone going to "hold the vote hostage"? Every candidate promises poo poo to Black people and never follows through.

Whoa no way, you say Diddy is rich?

I dunno, seems kinda significant that the Vote or Die guy is publicly making these statements. Sorry he isn't quoting from the Red Book, but just questioning the narrative that the Democrats are the party that helps minorities puts him ahead of the vast majority of their base.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

How are u posted:

Literally nobody in this thread is doing this. Find me a single post of anybody saying you should vote for Joe Biden because he's great and is the person we want to be President.

Not sure why you think the reason they are telling people to vote for Biden matters?

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

misadventurous posted:

Why is anyone in the thread defending him then?

Yeah that's what I'm wondering too. The implication here seems to be that there can be a valid reason to vote for a rapist.

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is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

I'm not defending Joe Biden, I'm defending making him the most powerful person in the world. Totally different.

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