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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
This poll is closed.
R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Strom Cuzewon posted:

God what are all these Ides doing here? You had one job! Ffs.

They aren't here yet. The ides of a month is the day before the middle day.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

They do and they're good :yum:

I didn't even notice they're gluten free, but they're definitely beer battered and delicious.

They'd have to be, they sound like the spousal abuse of potato products.

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Dec 10, 2011

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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I cannot wait for my office to close so i can piss about at home for weeks on end

The Tory plan to return Britain to the 14th century is ahead of schedule. They haven't lost rulership of Ireland or Scotland yet, but they've managed the two living popes and the pandemic.

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Dec 10, 2011

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forkboy84 posted:

I need to start going out more.

You need to start staying in more.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Bardeh posted:

My boss came in this morning (small business, he owns it) and told us flat out that if we have to self-isolate 'you can gently caress off if you think I'm paying you.'

Your boss is the kind of oval office who after the Tories make a bonfire of workers rights will be saying exactly the same thing except replacing "self-isolate" with "take a half day for your mother's funeral". I could wish that you and your colleagues had simply downed tools and walked out.

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Dec 10, 2011

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ThomasPaine posted:

I'm not making any equivalences, just pointing out that the idea that independence from the UK = any great leap towards the socialist utopia is very dumb

I don't give a poo poo if Independent Scotland is socialist, neoliberal or a gaylepertapdancingnunarchy. I only care that it is in the EU, so I have improved options for getting out of it.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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^^^ There was that vanilla ice cream flavour.

forkboy84 posted:

That's some real FYGM poo poo

Mate, if I "had mine" I'd be less worried. And I'd be entirely happy for everyone in the UK to have the option to get out, but they loving don't because racist idiots and psychopathic disaster capitalists put us in the position where we actually need that option. There comes a point in every conflagration where you have to forget about putting it out and save what can be saved. The UK reached that point on February 1st.

Jedit fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Mar 3, 2020

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Dec 10, 2011

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ThomasPaine posted:

Does your fudge use gluten at all? Billionaire's shortbread sounds great but I'd rather not poo poo myself lol

Why are you asking, when it's about 95% sugar by weight?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

Sometimes people have allergies or intolerances that are triggered by things at ~0.005% by weight.

Yeah, but TPaine is diabetic and it sounds like he's talking about eating it himself.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Boris Johnson is backing the UK out of the European Patent Court, which we agreed to join last year (signatory: Johnson, B). Nobody was consulted, least of all UK patent lawyers who were quite looking forward to us hosting one of the three planned courts.

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Dec 10, 2011

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First case of COVID-19 in Grampian region was found today. No word on where, but I'd bet money he or she is just down the road from me now at ARI.

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Dec 10, 2011

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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

"One of the good ones"

When they say "the good ones" they mean "good enough to be servants". They're not going to vote for a servant to become the master.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Elizabeth Warren just pulled out.
Does this mean it's Sanders v Biden for the democratic nomination?

(Sorry I know this is USpol but it affects us all ultimately).

I believe so.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Jose posted:

i didn't know mormons were a thing in newcastle but they got hit by coronavirus https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-51782255

i'm fairly certain that its all over the place here

Mormons are a thing everywhere. One of them once tried to proselytise me while we were crossing the road at a busy junction. He was duly advised that however much he wanted to meet Jesus I was in no rush to do so and so maybe he should cool his jets.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Deleted. What was the Piss Coronavirus?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Junior G-man posted:

Shiny shiny new episode for you all to enjoy. We're taking a special look at the concept of meritocracy, through the lens and career of a Very Special author, free school advocate, and massive oval office:

https://twitter.com/PraxisCast/status/1236929471296438272?s=20

Next week we ask: Karl Marx is buried in Highgate cemetery - is this a communist plot?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

Actually, it's the Toby Postpubescent episode. :pedo:

For the first time it may, in fact, not be a Fubpee-philia.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Chuka Umana posted:

wait what when did peter tatchell become an rear end in a top hat.

I met Tatchell back in the 90s and the question should be "did he ever stop being an rear end in a top hat?"

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Dec 10, 2011

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XMNN posted:

I'm so loving frustrated with the government's response to this, it is absolutely blindingly obvious that the situation is developing exactly the same as it has everywhere. what on earth is the point of doing this "wait and see" horseshit when we've already seen

like I'm not a public health professional but I just can't think of any rational reason to delay the drastic poo poo, even considering the fact that the number must go up

It's not a rational number.

Also I've got tickets to see Nick Mason in May, but I purchased cancellation insurance on those.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Ash Crimson posted:

Two for the price of one?

Let's not play the poison womb card, please.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Azza Bamboo posted:

The old ſchool ſ haſ a ſymbol

Said symbol being the left hand part of the German ß, with the other half being a regular lower case S.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Z the IVth posted:

I would like to correct that tweet and say that the govt is playing russian roulette with itself. I wonder what the constitutional precedent is if the govt benches are all quarantined/in hospital/dead? Can Labour pass a vote of no confidence assuming they have enough surviving MPs and run a coronavirus coup?

Technically yes, but it would be extremely dodgy and all they could do with it is call a General Election in which they'd have to put their own seats up for grabs as well. I would expect an increased Tory majority if they tried. It would be much better to instead put through only some emergency regulations (including extending the Brexit transition period) before closing the house for non-essential business until the crisis ends and by-elections could safely be held.

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Dec 10, 2011

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ukle posted:

Any teachers hearing the same re school closures. Have a relative who texted me to say her school is now likely to be closed from Monday, I would assume this is nationwide.

If schools are closing it will be on an authority by authority basis. I haven't heard anything about closures in Aberdeenshire yet, and I would expect to hear that within an hour of an announcement.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Paging Coohoolin to the thread, check in please.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

He stopped 50 terrorist attacks in his first day on the intelligence committee.

"By Allah - bloody infidels, stealing our jobs!"

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Dec 10, 2011

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baka kaba posted:

Yeah but saying "people are going to die because this is a bad thing, however we're very smart and doing everything right (the science, Laura!) so we'll have the best possible outcome in the circumstances" is setting up their narrative

And when people point at figures showing that every other country that acted promptly contained the disease while we had ten times as many deaths as the whole of loving China, that narrative gets knocked straight back down again. This isn't austerity deaths that can be excused onto some other factor and can't be compared with other countries and their differing economies. This is tangible and universal.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Jippa posted:

That punch is one in a million. The wall coming off is the icing on the cake.

It was just a lovely wall. You could have knocked that pillar over by pushing it.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Communist Thoughts posted:

has anyone seen any indication they're doing anything like this? or at the very least buying or making ICU beds/ventilators?

None, because they aren't. You can't sell off the NHS if it's seen to be working.

Oh, sorry, Rishi Sunak said they would in the budget. They just haven't yet.

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Dec 10, 2011

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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I don't think the chance is that low. I'm trying to find out my own personal risk of needing a ventilator at age 34 (otherwise healthy), and all the studies I'm finding have worrying numbers for diabetics. If I were you I'd literally stop leaving the house.

Type 1 or type 2? Type 2s apparently have it worse because their condition is often the result of strain on the system which knocks on into other areas. Not that I'm taking chances - I'm going to self-isolate as soon as Monday if the rate of increase stays as it is - but still.

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Dec 10, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

Hopefully it takes out ann widdecombe.

So not as devastating as feared, then?

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Dec 10, 2011

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Mebh posted:

Polish guy with no hands in asda said he has 100 percent proof of life after death and not to worry about corona. He'll tell me more if I want when I see him next.

https://twitter.com/Scarfolk/status/1238383247396085761

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Dec 10, 2011

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kyojin posted:

I'm 40 and this just cranked my anxiety 8000% cool. I know I'm still extremely unlikely to need it but loving hell.

I'm 45, immunocompromised and am so far as I know still the world record holder for most severe loss of lung capacity in a self-admitted patient. This should make you feel better.

E:

Guavanaut posted:

What about the 40-50% of life that is parasitic, and the 20% that is parasitic to the degree that it can't replicate without undermining a host's cellular biochemistry?

They're in government, mate.

Jedit fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Mar 14, 2020

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Dec 10, 2011

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XMNN posted:

I sort of want to believe that if it gets really bad (to the point where no one over 40 gets into an ICU and they're having to dig mass graves or what have you) and it is noticeably worse here than other places, that even the British public won't be able to forgive and forget

on the other hand, the British public have never failed to disappoint me so I have 0 optimism

I wouldn't be surprised if the only significant impact on the next election is demographic

Demographic effect is hugely important, though, because the breakpoint on Labour to Tory majority voting by cohort is now in exactly the same place where COVID-19 starts killing people in large numbers. Under-50s vote Labour and have a sub-1% mortality rate; over-50s vote Tory and the mortality rate basically triples per 10 years above 50.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Darth Walrus posted:

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1238970249254506496?s=21

I... huh? The gently caress are they doing? That's the Health Secretary and Chief Scientific Advisor offering completely different pictures of the government's objectives.

There's two possibilities here. Either Hancock is lying his rear end off about the objectives and what the government will do, or someone has done a runaround on him. Normally I'd say it was the former, but in this situation I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't.

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Dec 10, 2011

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a pipe smoking dog posted:

They is intentional, the idea is that if you have a cold it discourages you from coming back while still infectious.

And the other reason for it is to stop people pulling sickies by penalising repeated one-day absences.

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Dec 10, 2011

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kyojin posted:

I strongly suspect the last child to be called Boris in this country has already been born

So Boris has managed to be the new Winston Churchill, then?

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Dec 10, 2011

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sebzilla posted:

If people in this country were to sing a song of resilience from their balconies, what would it be?

My money's on Tubthumping.

A topically revised version of the Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die Rag by Country Joe and the Fish would be my personal choice.

Schools in Scotland may soon be forced to close because of lack of hot water. The kids, who are alright, have been instructed to wash their hands so regularly that there's none left for the dishes at lunchtime.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Those stats are kind of worrying for a reason that isn't obvious: if you run the numbers, then regardless of age group COVID-19 has a 50% mortality rate among critical cases. You survive chiefly by not getting a severe case.

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Dec 10, 2011

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You might call it funny that the Tories engineered a crisis to make themselves rich, and now another crisis has intervened that means a) they wasted their efforts, b) they're not going to profit from their own crisis because of the second crisis, and c) there is a strong chance that many of them will die because of it.

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Dec 10, 2011

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minema posted:

I can't work out the guidelines they've given - if you have symptoms you must self isolate for 7 days, if you live with others they have to isolate for 14 days, but does the original symptomatic person self isolate for 7 or 14 days?

Seven days. You isolate until it's sure the virus has run its course. The others isolate for the incubation period to make sure they don't have it too.

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