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Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Borrovan posted:

All cops, not just the institution of the police but every single individual copper, are bastards

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Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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2019 showed that a big chunk of the electorate value their emotional needs (ie spite) over their material needs, so he's just windsocking as per usual

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Had my PIP tribunal today. The judge correctly identified that the DWP had made contradictory decisions by awarding me zero points for everything in my PIP assessment and then, 2 months later, putting me in the highest support category for universal credit. The DWP did not address this decision in their package of evidence for the tribunal.

So, presumably, this should mean that, as well as re-evaluating my application on its own merits, the statements from the DWP should be considered by the judge in light of their contradictory decision making. Right? Nope.

The DWP "have to be given chance to submit new evidence" and my hearing that I've waited 16 months for gets adjourned after 3 minutes, putting me to the back of the queue for tribunal hearings and sentencing me to another year+ of poverty. Working absolutely as intended.

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Nov 25, 2013

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Fumble posted:

I had a pip tribunal in December and it was worse than the original assessment, even though i won, It took me until at least march before i stopped bursting in to tears during the day, every day because i was stuck in the living hell of 4 cunts (judge, specialist, doctor and dwp) belittling me, laughing in my face and scoffing, scorning and talking over me going round and round in my mind. It still upsets me. i went from zero to 14 points in on one side. I still want to scream at the world but no one cares.

I hope you do well and don't dwell on it because 9 moths later im still not any happier. gently caress the world, burn it all.

That's awful, I'm so sorry you had to go through that.

Thanks for the words of support, friends

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Nov 25, 2013

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Gonzo McFee posted:

Sorry about having to come into contact with our dogshit welfare system. Have you gotten in touch with any welfare rights teams? If you're a member of a housing association then they should be able to get you in touch with a team to help you. Sometimes the DWP will back off just at the sight of a welfare rights team getting near a case.

I remember when I had to help represent a guy with learning difficulties, epilepsy and injuries stemming from a crossbow attack. First they interviewed him alone and assessed him as fit for work because he did well in school (they left off it was Primary school he was talking about), then he got in touch with me who got him in touch with the Welfare rights team, we built up a case and went in with numbers and they backed off immediately after a quick interview with us. They're weasels seeing what they can get away with.

I have a benefits adviser at the CAB handling my appeal for me. She did the evidence gathering and submission for the appeal.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Jedit posted:

Is what?

A good set of alternative lyrics for Fitter, Happier

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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TACD posted:

Though I know if I really want to avoid hangovers going forward I’m probably just going to have to bite the bullet and start smoking lots more weed instead

I recommend vaporising it instead. Better for you, and you can use the leftovers for cooking. Allegedly.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Continuity RCP posted:

The best economy is one with an infinite amount of money held in an offshore account

You need 2 offshore accounts so they can sell houses to each other and call it GDP

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Lungboy posted:

The student union at Bournemouth university wouldn't serve snakebite and black, but they'd sell a half of lager, half of cider and a pint glass with a dash of black in. They reckoned it was due to having no cocktail licence but God knows if that was true.

This was a thing when I last worked a bar 24 years ago, so it's definitely a rumour with legs. The snakebite and black crew at that bar tipped me 5 quid every couple of rounds because I was the only person who'd serve it.

e: I also recall a friend at sixth form who drank Stella + Scrumpy Jack snakebites. After a few minutes it would form flakes like a snow globe

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Guavanaut posted:

Seems the protests against a second wave didn't work.

They should have gone through Official Channels

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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If the new country is going to be hard up for money then they should means test for entry

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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thespaceinvader posted:

So... none of the things that loving matter, then.

But the contact tracers say all the transmission is happening in homes! No we don't have actual data to support that, and our world-beating contact tracing scheme definitely isn't just a way to add a hint of credibility to our "all work, no play" excuse for a lockdown

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Nov 25, 2013

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

They're very interested to find out if you've got it at the time of donation but obviously that's about not transmitting it to the staff and other donors, and also interested if you might have had it in the past because of the possiblity of using your plasma with all its lovely antibodies to treat patients (although I've not heard anything more about this lately - presumably there are other treatments with less risk/availability bottlenecks now?)

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Nov 25, 2013

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VideoGames posted:

Lady VG just got her pip assessment back from the DWP (she was on highest due to her needing zomorph (morphine) twice a day to function) and not only are they ending it, but apparently she needs to pay them back because she was given too much.

The only words that express how mad I am about it would get me banned.

I'm so sorry VG, it's a brutal and callous system that no one should have to deal with

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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While we're on the subject of PIP appeals, I had my tribunal last week and here's an example of the level of fuckery that can occur.

I was refused PIP in August last year after a face to face assessment. In October, the DWP placed me in the "limited capacity for work and work related activities" group for universal credit, without an assessment and based purely on the form I filled in. A lot of the criteria for this are shared with PIP.

At the tribunal (which I've waited 11 months for), the judge rightly pointed out that these two decisions seem contradictory. "Yay" I thought to myself, "the DWP have shot themselves in the foot". The result? Hearing adjourned for an unspecified amount of time (during which I do not receive the PIP money I should be getting) so that the DWP have chance to submit more evidence, despite them not caring to do so for the best part of a year.

The game is entirely rigged.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Red Oktober posted:

This is loving poo poo. I don’t know if anecdotes are any use to you but I believe that most people who fight these and keep going eventually win - they’re banking on you giving up.

Just be ready for the fight to last multiple years, and even if you win they can start the fight over again immediately with a snap reassessment

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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josh04 posted:

Reading twitter last night suggested this is an entirely normal thing to be happening during a trial that has snowballed into headline news because journalists are idiots.

It is a normal thing to happen, but you have to take it a lot more seriously when you're potentially talking about vaccinating the entire world.

The (possible) adverse reaction was transverse myelitis, swelling of the soft tissues in the spine, a condition that can apparently go from back pain to paralysis in under 24 hours. If the vaccine that you're making does that to one in 10,000 people then you're potentially talking about paralysing close to a million people if it's administered worldwide

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Pilchenstein posted:

Neither part of this is true in my experience.

I'm 5 months into the second year of my appeal, and have been told that there's no minimum time between a successful appeal and a reassessment

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Pilchenstein posted:

Every time I've won an appeal, the tribunal specifies a length of time that you have to be left alone for. Never been reassessed any sooner than two years or so after an appeal.

That's actually fantastic news, I got bad info it seems. Thank you.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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As long as it leads to them being treated as an unregistered attack helicopter in British airspace and shot down with SAMs, I'm all for it

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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kecske posted:

and then immediately pegged us all

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Folding Ideas is a good YouTube

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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ThomasPaine posted:

I'd like to think that bringing back hanging would cause enough public outcry that even bojo wouldn't be dumb enough to try it but honestly a solid 40% of the country would probably be thrilled so who the gently caress even knows anymore.

Opt out of ECHR, wait for a white middle class child to go missing, name law after child

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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This is a daily occurrence

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Bobby Deluxe posted:

Sorry for derailing the thread. My opinions of how to engage or not engage with politics are after all just my opinion, not an absolute truth. I have been out and given the dog an extra long walk for his birthday. Vote. Don't vote. Vote for minority parties in the hope they can swing a coalition. Vote for joke parties in protest. Do what you want. I can't be fighting people I'm supposed to be on the same side as.

Isn't Boris announcing new measures soon? Has he announced them yet?

It wasn't a derail, and while the exchange got a little heated it's helpful for people struggling with this decision to see others state and support their positions.

I'm glad you had a good walk, happy birthday to your doggo!

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Wait, they're reinstating table service only at pubs and restaurants? When did they lift that restriction? What a loving mess

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Comrade Fakename posted:

Just absolutely :laffo: at the idea that the thread is a hotbed of violent sedition that is only kept under wraps by a consideration for appropriate OPSEC. Jose sleeps with a live grenade under his pillow. Twisto’s encyclopaedic knowledge of London’s streets is just a cover for his planning for machine gun nest locations. And I’m sure you’re spending every day running through a obstacle course of logs and tires to prepare for deployment.

As for your “false dichotomy” (and lol that parliamentary politics is neoliberal, I think you’ll find it predates Thatcher by quite a bit), feel free to educate me, what is the process through which we achieve widespread change in government, not issue-by-issue stuff, without either some form of armed rebellion or through the Labour Party - considering that you already said that all a new left party can reasonably do is influence Labour?

Still waiting to your path to socialism through voting Labour

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Nothingtoseehere posted:

still waiting to your path to socialism through not voting Labour

Why?

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Comrade Fakename posted:

We build up the left within the party, elect a left-wing leader and then win an election. We almost did that in between 2015-2017. It was difficult, and will be in future, but we proved it was totally possible.

That's a path to a prime minister with left wing ideals

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Necrothatcher posted:

Is Allison Pearson the one that lusts for granny death?

That doesn't really narrow it down

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Nothingtoseehere posted:

trying to pretent "we were all always against a second ref" is just mythmaking.

Good job no one is doing that then

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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radmonger posted:

Once in government, you are not going.to be able to implement unpopular policies that don’t work.

Lol

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Nothingtoseehere posted:

Of course, no one here has said Starmer personally masterminded the brexit policy to sink labour and become leader at all. Or ignored the fact that many party members on the left were pushing for a 2nd ref position aswell. We lost the last election because of brexit, but that brexit position wasn't masterminded by the right, it's one many here thought would work at the time.

None of which is what you said in your original post

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Nov 25, 2013

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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

According to the way back machine I saw the Deftones at their fifth show in six months at the (now demolished) London Astoria between October 1997 and March 1998. Will Haven supported. Had never heard anything by them before, they were loving immense

I saw them on the same tour but in Newcastle. loving great.

e: catte

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Nov 25, 2013

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Lungboy posted:

I've seen some people say (might have been in here, can't remember) that there's a hefty lifetime pension if a PM makes it past the two year mark, so he'll likely stay for that at least.

It's £100k a year less than the "chicken feed" he got for his telegraph column

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Nov 25, 2013

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Lungboy posted:

It is, but it's there in the background for life for doing nothing.

True, but I don't really feel like he's motivated by money. I think he's motivated by power and prestige, and he's the product of a world that laughs at £150k a year and needs 8 or 9 figures to even make an impression

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Nov 25, 2013

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SpicePro posted:

I'm currently sitting in a 4000 square meter open plan office and my desk and myself are the only things left, maybe I've been 'Miltoned'.

If you know you've been Miltoned, then you know there's only one logical next step

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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stev posted:

There's nothing more irritating than an overweight person who's lost some weight and has decided everyone else can and should. gently caress off the lot of you.

Especially when they can afford someone to plan and shop for their meals, definitely don't cook for themselves, probably have a personal trainer, etc.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

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Losing weight is hard when food is the only thing that generates a dopamine response in the barren wasteland of my brain

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Nov 25, 2013

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

Weirdly just from those postcodes I know exactly where the problem is, the old high-pressure main from the Chingford Reservoirs which feeds areas uphill to the east and isn't connected to the rest of the London Ring Main, because this happened before during the construction of the Olympic Park.

Between this and the two separate large gas main breaks in central London today I have to assume all the rain lately is causing an absolute fuckload of subsidence and just for once I can feel smug about sitting so close to the water table.

You say weirdly, but I wouldn't expect anything less at this point.

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