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Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017


Lol, what's the improvement plan?

If you go six months without calling out someone's shame you're back on the good boy list?

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Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Chewbecca posted:

Question for all: how many hours of actual work do you do as part of one full working day (or shift)?

Anywhere from 0-6.

I'm in some bastard child role between finance and operations so I can spend 4 days trying to make my screen look like I'm doing actual work and then I'll spend 6 hours building and tracking freight containers.

End of year I'll spend 3 days reformatting spreadsheets because the VP wants data to scroll ACROSS not VERTICALLY. Then I'll spend the week between Xmas and NY trying to not fall asleep.

But realistically, probably 2-4 hours of tangible work and another 1-2 hours of me digging into data and doing fancy tricks to impress the owner.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

"Ravus, we want you'd to sit in on product design meeting and follow a product from design to shelves so you can find redundancies and loss generating events to save us money. We need to stop the bleeding and figure out why revenues are up but profits aren't."

Perhaps spending 40k for youk your husband, and 3 teenage children to go to Maine for a week has a greater impact on our budget than the paper costing .09 vs .1 cents?

10k of that spend was UPS shipping their luggage to maine and back. Multiple suitcases for a one week trip.

Oh, and we had to pay a weeks rent for storage for the owners Cesna since he flew himself up there. :leavemtg:

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Outrail posted:

Doesn't he use his own money to go on holi.. haha sorry I'm not finishing that question.

Eat the rich.

It's only embezzlement if there's more than one owner. Wait there are two owners. Oh they're married. Oh their minor aged children are collecting paychecks as well.

I hope we get audited. I think it would be fun.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Domus posted:

I’m extremely jealous of the folks with admin access. I don’t have install privileges, and IT doesn’t want to support any shortcut software. My job is at least half data entry, often of the same item multiple times (thanks, netsuite). So I just said gently caress it and used an arduino kit for flight sims to make a thing with buttons that entered predefined strings. Of course Netsuite hates this, and occasionally decides to eat half the inputs and then delete the next line item, but it’s better than typing in 27 copies of the same thing.

Are you entering multiple lines on the same PO or something? Because there should be a copy precious button. Or you can try and get chrome to remember the days like it's a username so you can enter the first few characters then thumb down through the list?

Alternatively, figure out an csv upload maybe? I don't do that but I know operations and AR do it.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Domus posted:

It’s stupid and Netsuite is not set up to do this in any real way.

Net suite sales pitch.exe

I feel like there's some wierd busted rear end stuff you could do to get it to work but it requires admin rights and someone willing to experiment.

We spent months waiting for the one person with admin that isn't an exec to find them time to add sticky notes. They still don't work.

Meanwhile we started production on our q4 novelty lineup. It includes the oh so prestigious "fart in a can"

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Today's topic of deep concern:

Our west coast warehouse can only handle unloading 6 shipping containers per day.

We have 40 containers scheduled to go to the warehouse over the next 2 weeks, 100+ sitting at the port, and another 150 on the water and landing in the next 4 weeks.

There is worry about the LA port workers striking again.

They're asking for ideas to help solve this.

My suggestion of not shipping out 250 containers of product in 5 weeks was poo poo'd. For reference, we shipped 390 containers last year. Over the course of 12 months. Peak was 50 in a month.

But I'm the weirdo for suggesting we not over burden the already over worked doco and warehouse people.

I also had a fully remote VP ask me what I could personally do to locate a cargo ship that disappeared off GPS tracking. Like I had a helicopter on standby to go air loft his precious dollar store garbage.

The solution was to ask the warehouse to take more containers per day. Heyve upped itmto 7-8.

I asked what the plan was for the holiday stuff we'd be shipping in July. I got blank stares.

Today was a success.



left_unattended posted:

Burns chat: a friend of mine put her whole hand in a deep fryer when she worked at a convenience store. Not sure how it happened but the burns were pretty horrific. She did eventually get use of it back but it took a while.

I have a whole slew of stupid work injuries but none that left scars. Plenty of mental scars from customers but that wasn't really the employers fault.

I did this when I was like 16. My dumb rear end kept my hand in a cup of ice water until shift end then went to the ER. I learned about labor law not long after and boy oh boy was I insufferable to management.

Escape From Noise posted:

Nah. That's fair. I'll cut it out.

We have a beer fridge at work. I'll bolster you beer char with descriptions of what they stock it with. It's mostly white claw and bud light lime.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

The onwers kid is going college for business and he wants to get some experience selling.

So the mandate has come down that we need to compile a list of products, their costs sale price, margin, and so on. Wrangle it all onto pallets. Then the art department is going to be making signage and price tags for all these products. And then all of it needs to be put together and hauled to a FLEA MARKET.

So he can get experience selling.

I mean, it will absolutely give him a taste of what it's like to be in Sales. Do whatever you want without know the preocur or dong any actual work, the office will do everything for you.

On the other hand, why bother? You're just going to hand the business to him so he can finish running it into the ground.

Also, most of these products are random quantities in our local warehouse that isn't even in inventory and doesn't have pricing in our system because they were discontinued so long ago we don't even have base pricing for them on file.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

SerthVarnee posted:

At least you'll get paid to finally clean up the warehouse?

Lmao gently caress that. I'm an accountant. I gave them the price list.

The little poo poo stopped by to "your the product range" with a groupie of his. Was already just barking off direction to the art department.

3rd generation wealth runs strong through him.

Money is on a cocaine and BDSM addiction in his future.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Last job I had that tried the anon surveys hounded me asking why I hadn't done mine.

I'm not sure the penny ever dropped for them, despite pointing out the obvious.

I mean, I bailed and my exit interview was an e-form that I filled out while drunk. It did nothing, but if was cathartic.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Director of 25 years has given a 1 years notice and is already so done with the company's nonsense she's spilling Tea so old that the owner was in highschool when it was brewed and her father had just founded the company.

The next 11 months are going to be amazing.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

PortobelloPirate posted:

Further proof that small businesses owners are insane.

Buddy, you haven't the slightest idea.

"We need to find savings, we only posted a profit of 9 million dollars this year and sales aren't up."

Perhaps, Margaret, this journal entry I'm staring at for 7.5 million dollars under "disbursements: owner" might have something to do with it?

The actually insane part. "The depreciation of Billiam's plane pays for employee benefits!"

:classiclol:

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Lazyfire posted:

That's exactly the guy my uncle is, huge Trump supporter and thinks everyone younger than him has it easy/is lazy. My dad has said he's going to spend the first couple of weeks of retirement in the store parking lot to make sure my uncle doesn't try to go in and act like he's still one of the owners. I always knew there was some level of the Small Business Owner Tax Grift going on, for example: My dad has never "owned" any of his trucks, they were always paid for and owned by the store and written off as expenses. For some reason, my dad viewed this as meaning he used his truck for Work Things and would make off hours deliveries and service calls. My uncle also has a truck, but it's never been anything more than his personal vehicle; much more in line with how a lot of SB owners view company-owned vehicles. One of the flare ups in their conversations about passing on the business was that my dad wanted to have the trucks transferred to their names and take that burden off of the company. My dad was also OK with straight on leaving his truck with the store; my mom is also retiring by this fall and they won't need two cars, really. My uncle is still insisting that the store keep paying for his truck, and also buys him any future vehicles he needs as well as having the store continue to pay for his gas in perpetuity.

I kept telling my wife that the store ownership was going to be a loving tontine and they would just see who died first. Come to find out, I wasn't wrong and they had a system set up where the widow of whichever owner died would get the payout of the life insurance policy the store had on either of them to pay them and have ownership be entirely under the surviving brother. This is still in effect because my uncle refuses to sign the paperwork dissolving that agreement in favor of one that would move the ownership stake to the person specified by the deceased. My uncle is literally hoping my dad dies before October.

All of this over a furniture store .


Company cars:
201X Mercedes 4matic. For the lawyer/director of HR.
Leased Tesla SUV, I don't know poo poo about teslas. For owner A.
Leased Porsche Carrera for owner B.
A gently caress huge Buick SUV. It's.... Driven by the eldest son for college?
A Honda pilot or something, Owner A's mother drives it. The company pays for the fuel and insurance of all of these cars.

We make arts and crafts products for dollar stores, Walmart, etc.

I cannot wait to get audited.

I just remembered: we had 1200 in fraudulent charges on the company card which is actually owner B's card with the company as an authorized user?????.

It was easier for them to just pay the money than to file fraud and get new cards issued because we use the card to pay for everything

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Evil SpongeBob posted:

Just gonna stand here and stretch a bit. Oops, I think you dropped this.

https://www.irs.gov/compliance/whistleblower-office

But they'll cancel all the pizza parties and summer spirit activities like *checks emails* dress down Tuesday and western Wednesday's cowboy costume and chili cook-off (please eat your lunch at your desk to balance the time spent at spirit activities)

I mean, I'm looking for another gig. I got denied WFH when my alternator took a poo poo but the guy behind me worked from home because he was too sore from weeding in his garden on SATURDAY.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Pyrtanis posted:

This reminds me of when I got written up for not being able to go into work because a monsoon had washed the road out. (I lived in the boonies then) I took a picture of the cops that were at the blockade, still wasn't good enough.

When we had a snow storm last year, the day prior this same boss stopped by my desk and asked me if I had enough work I could take home to WFH if the snow was bad enough.

Please note, she has also worked from home and at one point was working remotely for 2 days , from THAILAND, while on vacation....

Its entirely because the entire company policy changes based on the Owners current mood. She gave everyone off on Monday before July 4th as a part of employee appreciation. Meanwhile, she just dropped 50k to haul her husband, mom, and 3 kids to Main for a week and wrote it all off and "Board Retreat" the entire Board is her and her Husband.

But during the week between Xmas and New Years she had the attorney literally walking to each person in the office and writing down a list of what they were doing because, and I literally heard her screaming this over the phone to the lawyer, "I'm not paying these loving people to hang out."

I mean, I've walked into your office to find the office manager combing and braiding your hair. Shut up.

Oh, and the absolute kicker. Everyone in the company is classified either Salary and overtime exempt, or a contractor. Despite probably 75% of staff not meeting the standards for either classification.

They also hire the kids of employees and summer help and pay them as 1099 employees so no taxes are withheld for their work.

They also pay their underage children wages and all their taxes are paid by the company.

Now that I type this all out I'm realize I should probably actually get out before the IRS fines them into bankruptcy.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Killingyouguy! posted:

We once had some low level employees complain to hr about workplace harassment from a manager and hr brought in a ton of lawyers specifically to prove that the manager was not doing any workplace harassment (he totally was but the lawyers declared it did not meet the legal definition of harassment) and all the low level employees left and the manager stayed.

Unfortunately the focus on not being mean is much older than this episode. Our whole culture is focused on coddling middle and upper management for reasons I can't get into without doxxing myself

I swear to God if I didn't know any better we worked at similar places.

They'd had all our storage space for all files on a single drive in a back room. And it was like 2TB for the entire 70ish person company. I have found just straight up music stored on this thing. There would be monthly emails about clearing old files because we were running out of room constantly.

They finally bought an entire server rack. It's in a 3x3 closet.

The maintenance guy said it was an OSHA violation for it to be there and it was met with "it temporary". We're going on 6 months. and it can't be a temp location. You had the internet provider and electricians come out and run cabling to that room and no where else.

We also have rule 1: you have to be nice.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Outrail posted:

Can someone please tell me if I've been insulted or complemented.

That depends on what part of New York you're in. If you're not from New York, both.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Marketing tried to tell the owner she can't put fake reviews on Amazon.

"Who's gonna arrest us, the Internet police?"

"The FTC."

"Who's the eff dee see?"

Our Amazon seller account has been shut down for six weeks and no one knows why but the owner and the "brand manager" who insists we do customer service outside of official Amazon channels and send them extra free products as make goods and is on record saying "imthey can't stop us" have both been insanely silent during the internal investigation as to why we're shut down.

Amazon has given us nothing but vague "you violated Rule X'. Rule X has a broad swath of things but it all boils down to "review manipulation or coercion.'

The ecom team is pretty confident they'll be unemployed in a few months as the volume for ecom sales from target, Walmart, sam's club, and our own barely functional website are sub 20k a year.

I really am curious what pushes this place into bankruptcy.

Good news, three suits from the bank were here and agreed to extend a 10mil line of credit so we can pay for the years worth of product the sales VP had shipped in 6 weeks that we don't actually have a sales agreement is place for yet.

Our manufacturer has also agreed to take payment for all this in snrallment instead of demanding the remain 8 million at the end of the month.

Clown shoes from top to bottom.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

mobby_6kl posted:

OTOH I've seen people walking around the office barefoot so it's impossible to say whether dress codes are good or bad;

Today is flipflop day at my office.

It has been an orchestra of "twack twack" all loving day.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Many moons ago I was an floor auditor at a casino.

I wore a dress shirt, slacks, suspenders, and a flat cap.

It was an effective boon to my work.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Made the terrible mistake of trusting another teams works.

Now I need to have our customs broker refile 950k worth of incoming product because some idiots classified pens as knives, a USB thumb drive as magnetic storage and a novelty noisemaker as a RECORDING DEVICE.

Our Amazon account has been reinstated after we apologized and promised it would never happen again. Then explained to the owner that the "the internet police" are a thing called the FTC and will come down on us for review manipulation if we keep posting fake five star reviews on our own poo poo..

The income statement is currently negative 1.5 million. We have 20 million in product in warehouses without a single commitment to buy.

The owners have decided to save money we need to turn of the auto renew subs for staff don't use those services. It's a total of 100/month per person. The company is sub 100 people. The same owner bought just over 1k in new bras on the corporate card.

I'm aware of the link that I was referred to. I wanna see how long the ride lasts. This is fascinating.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Did you know products made in China, shipped to Thailand, assembled in Thailand, and shipped out of Thailand, are still Chinese?

I did.

Everyone else seems to be really angry that we have to pay 25% tariff on these Chinese goods we got from Thailand. Even though the vendor bill says Thailand but in the bottom left corner is says "Country of Origin: China"

Good job vendor.

Bad job *checks notes* owners...

Good job lawyer for pointing out trans shipping is illegalbad job owner for pouring anot not being allowed to do a fraud.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

StrangersInTheNight posted:

Sounds like someone's trying to 'innovate'. Watch out, Ravus, we got ourselves a Stockton Rush here.

So the owners took the "ask for forgiveness, not permission" idea and forgot about the part where eventually you can't do that because that's how you accidentally a while fraud with a side of embezzlement as a treat.

The $100+ on bras on the corp card are totes legit.

Salami Surgeon posted:


Then a different guy from the vendor, someone from corporate, starts looking at it trying to prove it's not their system. And by looking at it I mean taking things apart,

Sounds like he voided the warranty if he's not authorized to inspect or make changes. Even if he is part of the company. Good luck on your double broken product.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

big trivia FAIL posted:

i do not eat potlucks because i dont know how any of these people live

I don't eat them because I see how they treat the kitchen and bathroom.

We don't have a trash compactor Margaret, and even if we did why do you think that upending your bowl into the sink, rinsing it off, and leaving it in the dish rack is acceptable?

Why is there toilet paper on the ceiling in the bathroom, wht don't you loving animals FLUSH THE TOILET??????

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Chocobo posted:

I think I am failing upwards. Rapid promotions where I have excelled, but the next one is being forced on me and I have no interest or experince with the role. I know if i don't do well they'll make me stick it out because they have "invested in me".

If you gently caress it up hard enough to make it someone else's issue, but not hard enough to get fired, you'll be promoted to a position where you'll have nothing to do.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Skanky Burns posted:

Someone came to work early today and microwaved fish for breakfast.

I... have no words.

10am every day a guy in my office will crack open a thermos and eat black beans with a spoon for the next 20 minutes.

He's in the bathroom every half hour so I figure he has chrons or ibs or something. But that 20 minutes of metal on metal scrapping is torture.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Orvin posted:

I am guessing her managers suck. But salary can cut both ways. If she is required to work after hours some days, then she just comes in late the next day to make up for it. Or leaves early the following day. Clearly not as nice as getting comp time to use at your discretion, but there are ways to keep your weekly hours at (or under) 40 while salaried.

Or just call their bluff and have her thank them for never having to work weekends or after 5pm (or whatever regular quitting time is) again. But only use that option if she is ready to be shown the door.

I'm sorry, I think you misunderstand.

Salary means no more overtime. But if you come in late or leave early you'll have to use PTO.

I don't care if you stayed 4 hours late for an event, you need to burn PTO to leave 30 minutes early. This isn't just a job, it's a CAREER.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

VileLL posted:

worked the weekend because a guy didn’t do his job

asked him to send an email after I was done

he instantly brought out ‘I’m having a mental break down’ and signed off

Unbelievable power move

A good trash manager would tell him to have it on his own time and assign the lost time to unpaid time off.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Dameius posted:

Is your employee a racial minority who doesn't sound like the local majority? When I briefly worked in a call center support that had an international customer base, if you were a woman period or didn't sound basically what they thought a white person should sound like customers would do all sorts of loving bullshit abusive things to the people they were talking to.

During my brief stint a s a phone banker I had a dude like this. But he refused to talk to me. Demanded he only talk to female bankers. But transfers were roulette, you couldn't pick who got the call. Someone this dude ended duo on my line multiple times over 6 months. Which is unreal considering the thousands of phone bankers.

Every time he would curse up a storm and hang up. I like to imagine I ruined his jerk sesh.

teemolover42069 posted:

no, she's white. most of the agents that report to me aren't, and one of them(who is black) has gotten three different surveys with points off because of 'tone'. I listened to all those calls and reviewed them with her and she was helpful and did everything right on all three. nothing about her tone sounded in any way off to me on any of them. and all I can figure is it's them being racist.

also had one agent get a detractor survey that said "is this what DEI is doing to [company]?' - I figured out that they meant 'diversity, equality, and inclusion'.

I loving hate customers. when I was still taking calls people thanked me for being white - that is, for not having an accent - every single day. it was infuriating

I worked with a few people who affected white voices because of this.

I never had issues, but I was often mistaken for the automated system, so people hang up, hit 0 or yell "agent" at me.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017


I got a QC in a call set Zero because I found, exposed, and reversed multiple fraud counts on a customers bank account. Ther zero was because "I didn't address the customers needs by issuing him a new debit card." Nah son, he called asking WHY he had a new debit card. Turns out multiple agents had opened and zero our multiple checking accounts and issued epdenir cards for those accounts because they counted as new products. But then flagged every account and card as invisible so he wouldn't see them during online banking.

I got dinged for shutting down internal fraud.

1 guesses what bank it was. I quit because of related activities. They shuttered the entire phone banking system within a year.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

teemolover42069 posted:


lol this has to be wells fargo right?

It sure was.

poo poo show even from top to bottom. I did have heart warming stories, but some absolutely vile behavior too.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Owner sent a company wide Teams message.

"Hello All! Please do not worry about reaching out, texting, calling or emailing me this next week. As most of you know, “working” to me has another definition. It means we are moving and shaking and I want to make sure I’m not slowing any of the dance down!! Keep them coming. Have an awesome well Deserved weekend, and a great upcoming week!"

She spent the first 2 week on vacation with her husband and kids. And today they rolled up to an international flight to the Caribbean? An hour before departure, missed the flight, tried to blame everyone but themselves, then book the empty seats now available on their layover and drove down to the layover destination. They must have made it before sending that message.

An important point is that they are so frequently unavailable that a leads sales guys got an offer from a start up in his old industry and was unable to contact the owners. Smwhen he told the Sales VP he got "oh ok" as a response.

He submitted his resignation the same day. His last day is while they're gone. To my knowledge he still hasn't had any communication with the owner and she's sending emails telling people to include this dude on future projects.

We also have people working the weekend at event. One of them is putting in 24 hours over 2 days. We do not get over time.

I'm starting to wonder if what legal but dumb poo poo I can try to get away with before they get mad and poo poo can me.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

poo poo that's a good idea.

I should combine that with the "that's not my job" I keep getting from Purchasing when they feel as.if cutting a PO is the end of their duty line.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

While on vacation the owner showed up for the weekly zoom managers meeting.

With her camera on.

At the beach.

In a bikini.

And told us this was excellent work life balance and we needed to do it.

I'm not even allowed to WFH and her vacation cost more than the salary of anyone in the room.

But at least now I know her excuse to the IRS about how it's a work trip.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Y'all are missing the easy win. Clearly this dude is a man's man. So leaver a bunch of period products around and discuss things like heavy flow and discharge until he cries to HR or storms off in a huff.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Ironhead posted:

Thats gotta be at like, a drug testing center so they can keep an eye on your, right? Or a dive bar where they have a problem with people loving or shooting up? Right?

At both our shops, the bathrooms are single occupant. At the theater, cast all have their own bathrooms in the dressing rooms, "public" bathrooms backstage are all single occupant. For some reason on one of the last tours they went around and labeled all the single occupant bathrooms as non-gendered.

My office only has single occupant bathrooms. They were gendered. The women used the men's room whenever the other one was occupied. Once the hiring meant the woman to man ratio went from 1/20 to 1/5 they converted all the bathrooms to non gendered.

They immediately put up signs asking people to put the seat down.

The former men's room went from being totally fine, maybe some pee spatter on the seat and floor, to absolutely trashed and with people just not flushing??????

There's a wooded field behind the office, can I just go back there? The animals areore courteous.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Barudak posted:

In Japan there are rules about the value you can give customers for being loyal members, locked at their lifetime of 20 times the value of the first product they registered with you. Turns out if you just dont require them to register a product to be a loyal member the multiplication of 20 times 0 is infinity in Japanese law.

Barudak: human life is worthless.

Shoehead posted:

Noticed something odd on the shop's FB the other day, a gorgeous painting of a bonsai tree in front of a full moon, uploaded by the boss, but wait hang on... The boss hasn't been painting recently... and actually this looks all smudged and weird and is kind of low res for a photograph... And... and... Ah yes there it is on a stock website, along with the painting she posted last week. Brilliant!!

You should approach her concerned that some stick website is stealing her paintings and making money off her hard work.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

White font, size 1. The robot will find it. The people will not.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

blatman posted:

sales owns, you just promise impossible solutions to impossibly stupid applications and when it falls through its the engineers fault while you're busy carrying your bags of money to the bank

So what you're saying is that I can make disturbing amounts of money as long as I have no regard for human life or the well-being of others?

Hmmmm.

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Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Can I instead make a living wage with my morals uncompromised doing work that keeps me away from people?

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