Disco Elysium: You Must Compress Your Shit Before Venturing Forth

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goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Nix Panicus posted:

I just started an INT/FYS playthrough, and I find myself with the ability to punch a small child to advance, but not the will to do so. Is there anything worth seeing for perpetrating child abuse, or should I just deal with the insults and move on?

E: Also, is there any evidence I could gather to convince Kim that I'm the real killer? I had high hopes for that check but Kim just shrugs it off and Ive got nothing

You should punch the child because you won�t do that irl

# ¿ Apr 10, 2021 19:43

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 08:29

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Kobal2 posted:

(A sly joke there is that, despite the devs being socialists themselves, Mazovian Socioeconomics is just about the worst thought of them all to hold -

just like in real life!

# ¿ Apr 11, 2021 16:09

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

I started a new game. So far I internalized the advance racial theory and then knocked Measurehead out on a 3% roll

# ¿ Oct 1, 2022 14:10

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

MariusLecter posted:

Just got this game, hear nothing but non spoiler praise and seen only memes like the "Officer, do monsters actually taste good?" and such. Read OP and tomorrow I'm gonna get some coffee in the morning and run around with high Logic and Encyclopedia and balance out anything else i can EXCEPT verbal skills, will power and physicality.

WISH ME LUCK.

never reload

# ¿ Oct 5, 2022 17:48

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

roomtwofifteen posted:

That was my immediate thought, I'm kinda surprised to see so many people take it at face value

I think you might be a bit internet poisoned if your immediate assumption after seeing words from a stranger is "ah, this surely means the opposite of what it says, and the man dissolving a part of his life is NOT in the hospital he claims he is"

# ¿ Oct 5, 2022 17:53

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

repiv posted:

sleeping on the island in most runs will get you the dora dream, they're talking about the other possible dream sequence which requires you to never be reminded of dora for the entire run

wait hold up. what is the alternate dream

# ¿ Feb 6, 2023 09:47

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Gaius Marius posted:

It's a better story than DE by far. Being in large part "what if a game developer read an introduction to philosophy" sounds trite but is a more interesting Premise than most rpgs and it's got the rare condition of having nearly all it's major characters being interesting. The setting also lends itself to interesting and mind bending vignettes which keeps thi KS interesting.

If you're comparing them, one interesting aspect is the unorthodox nature of planescape almost always works in its favor; talking skull companions, chaste succubuses, arbitrary rules holding immense power. All this lends it immense interest and is used to more or less effectively explore the concepts it deals with; contrasting, the more standard elements are boring as poo poo e.g the combat and some of the more hellish areas.

DE meanwhile has its strongest aspects in the areas related to ones own lived experience in the world; personally things like the Contact Mike trivia are something unstated before in games, and yet if you know someone like that it's resonance is immediate and powerful. But all the setting poo poo is garbage. The pale is stupid, as is the entire fake technological apparatus erected around it. It's the worst kind of world building, the creation of things for the creation of things instead of to purpose. Absolutely abhorrent.

Just because you shaved the goatee doesn't mean your evil dimension opinions are not recognizable

# ¿ May 18, 2023 09:41

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Gaius Marius posted:

The Pale is like the Bagel in EE because of how unnecessary it is to the plot.

no, gently caress off, this has GOT to be a gimmick. i'm enacting a moratorium on replying to this guy

# ¿ May 30, 2023 09:08

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

His name is Robert Kurvitz because that's what everyone's getting after working with him

# ¿ May 30, 2023 09:09

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Samovar posted:

...idgi

it's a little polish language joke where "dostać [receive/get] kurwicy [homophone]" means "to go mad with anger"

# ¿ May 30, 2023 09:56

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

sebmojo posted:

Lmao how have I only learnt this now

Really puts the bit about shedding your name to become Rafael Ambrosius Costeau in a different light, eh?

# ¿ May 30, 2023 10:58

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Crain posted:

Aside from how this all legally shakes out, I'm getting the sense that the IP is dead. I'm just not really seeing a way forward. Any sequel that doesn't have the original members involved will be pretty doomed due to how widely known the legal situation surrounding the IP theft is to the fans. Whatever comes next might not be an outright failure, but it's not going to be Disco Elysium.

People won't care it's fine

# ¿ May 31, 2023 04:43

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Man, all of these reveals point towards the fact that DE2 will come around, be made by the same people, and it'll be good

# ¿ May 31, 2023 16:08

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Fruits of the sea posted:

Like if you punch in #cozygames in Tiktok,

no!

# ¿ Jun 5, 2023 10:53

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Google Jeb Bush posted:

women are bourgeois, casting one as a protagonist is a sure sign de2 has sold out

Has Disco Elysium gone woke?

# ¿ Jun 7, 2023 08:20

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Crain posted:

We already have a term for "Disco-likes" it's cRPG.

No, those are inspired by good games

# ¿ Jun 10, 2023 16:39

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Sekenr posted:

I've done drugs

criminal

# ¿ Jun 12, 2023 11:01

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

H13 posted:

Torment felt like it was going somewhere and doing something

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled

# ¿ Jun 27, 2023 10:09

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

dervival posted:

shame there's no fan% speedrun joke category

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZZ0dJFFT5s

current world record is just under 14s

# ¿ Jun 28, 2023 12:27

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

You definitely can go to the island alone, though maybe that involves telling Cuno to scram after losing Kim. I dunno how it works, but I do know that there's a special ending if you do: If you have no one else to vouch for you, Judit will be the one to smooth things over if Harry has been sober since monday; if not, the 41st will ditch him and he lives out his days in the fishing village, with Idiot Doom Spiral and friends.

this is the speedrun ending on patches that don't allow for the 6-6-6-6 stat spread, which always struck me as kinda sad

# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 11:10

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

I think you get a decent amount of chances to retry the physical checks with skill boosts and modifiers (you can talk to Ma�ana/Cuno for a modifier after failing once), but for what it's worth, becoming racist isn't quite as bad as it sounds. Your brain will conclude that Advanced Race Theory is a bunch of semantic bullshit, and you can tell Measurehead that the answer to the great race mystery is that you need to sober up, which will rattle him (but still let you pass) and unlock Waste Land of Reality as early as day one. You can also avoid Evrart taunting you about it by not bringing it up, but there's no way out of getting the side eye from Kim and getting rid of it will cost you a skill point.

After internalizing the Advanced Race Theory you can also tell Measurehead that it's a whole bunch of horseshit and there is no way you believe it and he's all "yeah but i made you spent two hours thinking of it and you can never take that time back".

In short, reducing it to "becoming racist" is kinda not fully what's happening there

# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 12:47

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

CJacobs posted:

I watched it and it was actually quite interesting! Here is a cliffs notes version:

- Recruit Kim and talk to Garte to receive your first instructions, ensure you haggle him to the minimum repayment
- Retrieve money from Joyce to pay for it
- Go to the library and read up on the entirety of THE MAN FROM HJELMDALL (takes 3 real life minutes of mashing, or 10% of the run)
- Doing this passes enough time to end Day 1 immediately
- Inspect the body to get the task, don't even compress your poo poo
- Pay Garte for the room damages
- Go to bed having accomplished a whole lot

- Pay Garte again for the room and board
- Immediately brush up on THE MAN FROM HJELMDALL again because it's such a classic
- Suddenly, the Hardies appear in the booth
- Prove Your Authority To Titus Hardie
- Grab the key in the booth and open the pinball workshop for evidence to present
- Speak to Klaasje
- Speak to Titus
- Speak to Klaasje
- Take a drat nap

- Ignore your completely exhausted partner Kim in the morning Talk to Titus instead for Ruby's location
- Fix the water lock
- Ask the Washerwoman for the key to the shack
- Examine the FELD mural with kung-fu master Trant Heidelstam for clues on ruby (silently)
- Confront Ruby- the fastest outcome is thankfully not allowing her to self-terminate
- At the Tribunal, Harry does not have his gun and so Kim takes the shot
- Sleep off your failure
- In a bad mood, tell Cuno to get lost and limp your sorry loving way to the island with no other dialogue for the whole game
- The Deserter lays down his gun
- Encounter the Insulindian Phasmid
- Unbelievably, this assembles just enough evidence to have solved the case and Judit saves your job. Harry gets to return to the precinct.

So, in total that's 11 non-cutscene-event conversations and one lone silent interaction to gain clues.

It's seriously awesome how much of the game is optional to even interact with, there are a hundred different ways to reach these specific bullet points. Hardly any two players will do it the same way.

Sit on my Jace posted:

Oh hey I'm a speedrunner resource! I did the first (and slowest) speedrun of the Any% run that utilizes the stat glitch, so the initial routing of the run was substantially my work (with improvements by later runners, also they played the game better). CJacobs's rundown is a pretty comprehensive rundown of the game's critical path, although there's some stuff you can do in different (and slower) ways to fulfil the same set of requirements, like linking the Hardie Boys to the murder through the footprints or through talking to Evrart, or paying for the room by pawning Kim's hubcaps or through talking to Evrart.

One point of interest I'd like to draw attention to is the stat glitch at the beginning of the run (which, sadly, was patched out with the Jamais Vu update). Using a controller, you can exit directly to the main menu during character creation instead of backing out normally. This puts the game in a state where the next time you go into character creation, it'll pick a random debug mode statline, one of which has 6 in every stat and every skill maxed out for a total of 12 in every skill. Since it's only a 1 in 10 chance of getting this statline every time you attempt the glitch, it's not included in the speedrun timing.

There's one other reason to have a controller plugged in, which was discovered by Punchy: If you use a hairband to hold down the analog stick, it'll scroll dialogue off the screen at maximum speed, which prevents lag during long dialogue segments like looping through The Man From Hjelmdall to pass time.

Final Cut actually patched THE MAN FROM HJEMDALL time skip. You can do it with the Greatest Innocence book still but you can't just mash through that

# ¿ Aug 2, 2023 09:53

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

I also have a hard time pitching it because I really don't want to spoil the premise of what skills actually do, that's such a wonderful surprise if you run into it blind.

My greatest success was talking to a lit nerd and reciting the Kingdom of Conscience solution from memory. That's a good draw, and unlikely to be a spoiler if you know your friends would never commit to Moralism.

Letting your friends play Disco is such a weird way validate your bias on people sometimes. My brother was disappeared by coalition warship Archer and at no point in that I was surprised

# ¿ Dec 1, 2023 21:41

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Rogue AI Goddess posted:

Hot take: Disco Elysium is a video game and none of the choices the player makes in it are reflective on who they are as a person.

Actually, video game choices are the only choices that matters because in "real life" instead of cool situations you face tedious bullshit until you die

# ¿ Dec 5, 2023 23:54

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

MariusLecter posted:

This is a neat video that talks about everything you probably could about the game. Almost three hours long.

Disco Elysium - A Hardcore Analysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr5YXb4iBGI&t=3565s

Link should have time stamp for 59:25 Everart Claire portion.

Christ, finally someone who gets it

# ¿ Jan 20, 2024 10:44

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Ban americans from making videos on this game

# ¿ Jan 20, 2024 10:48

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

christmas boots posted:

I just went down the line left to right and paired ideology with what seemed like the corresponding skills and went

1. Intellectual Communist
2. Sensitive Moralist
3. Physical Fascist

I can see the case for doing a sensitive run first, but I appreciated having the world building firmly fixed in my head for the subsequent runs.

And if you are going to do a fascist run I think it is best to do it last because at that point you firmly know what the game is about and I think that makes it easier to contextualize its commentary on the subject.

nothing sensitive about moralism.

# ¿ Jan 23, 2024 10:55

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

Rogue AI Goddess posted:

Dolores Dei didn't give an entroponetic gently caress about the stable price of bread, and she would burn Moralintern to the ground if she came back.

(At least, she would try, and then they would kill her again.)

Good. The world has moved past the need of One Great Woman, especially one that's a con artist deep in the P hole

# ¿ Feb 8, 2024 10:29

goblin week: Jan 26, 2019; Absolute clown.

pyrrholidon!

# ¿ Feb 8, 2024 10:55

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 08:29

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Owlbear Camus posted:

Most troubling is that she doesn't seem to regard Kim Kitsurugee's advice or esteem very highly.

while painful i think it's good that a teen doesn't listen to cops

# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 12:42

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