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Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.

Leperflesh posted:

Probably means the ad agency that received a small box of magic the gathering stickers to use as set dressing for this shoot didn't pay close attention, and the marketing staffer at wizards who approved the ad photos either didn't notice, or didn't care enough to get someone to photoshop the image to fix it.

The weird thing is that they are in the correct sequence, just rotated two counterclockwise turns.

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Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.

BizarroAzrael posted:

I actually forgot Avacyn Restored had no DFCs, but that's not an example to follow.

In defense of Wizards, they had to design Restored before they knew what the reception to DFCs was. Besides, the set sucked in ways that DFCs could not have saved.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.
I don't get why they didn't go with "whenever the time of day changes" instead of "when night becomes day or day becomes night".

I do like "daybreak" and "nightfall" as trigger words, though.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.

goferchan posted:

I can absolutely understand why "Counterspell with significant upside" is very loving good, but I'm actually a little surprised it's "banned in legacy" good. Is the text just that strong, or is there some busted interaction where you're "countering" your own can't be countered spells to generate a ton of mana or something?

Even the simplest situation, you counter their 2 drop on your turn and then take your turn 5, or make a 3 drop while keeping up counterspell mana is backbreaking.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.

Dreqqus posted:

It's not legacy but my favorite 'holy crap this game is ridiculous sometimes' deck is legacy oops all spells.

Someone, Chamale I think, described that deck as the deck you pull out against "someone who claims their deck is unbeatable but does not know what a sideboard is."

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.

Chamale posted:

I wasn't the one who said that, but I like it. I remember when we developed the deck in this thread back in 2013, that was a fun time.

The kids these days with their Thassa's Oracle don't know how good they have it - I remember when the win condition was The Mimeoplasm, Triskelion, and Lord of Extinction.

Don't forget Giant Solifuge out of the sideboard to beat people who boarded in Leyline of sanctity!

Yeah I remember you did a lot of the legwork on that deck, probably why I misremembered that way. And yeah, Oracle would have made things much simpler if it was around back then. Wasn't there an alt win con of Angel of Glory's Rise, Azami, and Lab Man, too?

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.

DangerDongs posted:

It's the poo poo like that guy who thumbed a land to his opponents top when shuffling that is just bonkers to do on camera.

My experience with these sorts of people is that they cheat so often and so readily, that to them that is just how you play magic. Honestly, it's really pathetic.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.
Does Cemetary Protector make tokens if you exile a non-land with her? The phrasing is ambiguous. If she can flash in, eat a creature out of the graveyard, then make tokens on landfall AND when you cast a creature spell, I think she might be good. If she has to eat a land to make tokens on landfall, her chances are much lower.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.

Strong Sauce posted:

So do Time Counters have an official meaning in MTG where if you can place a Time Counter onto a non-suspended permanent and then cast an exile card on the permanent... do you still remove a Time Counter until it no longer has one and then when it doesn't.. is it brought back into the playing field?

Only if it has suspend, which arc blade dies. If a card without suspend ended up exiled with time counters, I don't think any thing would happen. This is why Jhoria of the Ghitu gives the cards suspend.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.

Leperflesh posted:

If you exile a printed 0/0 creature with at least one +1/+1 counter on it and the counters go away, does the creature die in exile? Or does it just hang out in exile at 0/0?

The latter. Being */0 is only a death sentence on the battlefield. If it's a blink effect or whatever though, when the creature comes back it will die as a state based effect if it's toughness is 0 or less.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.
Triple innistrad all the way. Nothing else comes close.

Runner up is triple champions of kamigawa which in addition to being a good format on it's own, singlehandedly invented the concept of a "draft archetype," all thanks to Dampen Thought.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.

Lone Goat posted:

Cube is a little different than booster draft because there's going to be far less chaff in a cube than a stock booster pack.

What's glimpse drafting though? Never heard of it.

Instead of 3 packs of 15, you have 9 packs of 15. When you open a pack, you pick one card and then remove two, then pass it. It allows for better card selection and seeing more of the cube, which allows strategies that need a critical mass of effects, e.g. aggro needs one drops, to get them, where you may not be able to in a regular draft.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.

Lone Goat posted:

By "remove two" do you mean remove them from the draft entirely? So basically you're taking one card and then hating two more from the pack? Do the removed cards go back into the cube to make future packs or are they gone gone?

I guess that works for cubes that are heavily redundant, but terrible for archetypes that rely on specific cards to function (like say storm or splinter twin) if someone can just throw your key wincons in the trash for free.

A large appeal of draft, for me, is that you can find the open lane/underappreciated cards and that seems less possible if someone else can just remove that option at no punishment to themself. Maybe it works different in execution, but it just sounds like a weirder version of sealed if you get to look at 135 cards and pick the best 9 (and also whatever chaff gets passed to you).



Paul Zuvella posted:

Yeah I’m with you here, it puts a huge pressure on opening good cards in your 9 packs because the next card you’re going to be able to take is by default the 4th best card in the pack.


Typically it's mostly used for power cubes when you have only two or four people drafting, and want to use more of the cube. Two people use 270 cards, and four people use 540.

Ironically this makes it much BETTER for strategies like storm that need a few key cards. If you were to draft normally with two people, for example, you would see 87 cards. (15 in each of your three packs, plus 14 cards in your opponent's three packs) with a glimpse draft, you see fifteen cards in nine packs, so 135 cards, and 12 cards in your opponent's nine packs, so 108, for a total of 243 cards; that's more than twice the card selection.

Think of it this way. A 540 count cube being drafted normally by 4 people would use 180 cards. That means that there's only a 1/3 chance that a specific card is even present in the draft. However if it's a 4 person glimpse draft, the entire cube is used, meaning it is definitely there somewhere. In fact, in a 4 person glimpse draft of a 540 cube, each person sees 378 cards (15+12+9+6, nine times) which is exactly 70%.

Also, like I said, I have most often seen it in powered cube where a 4th pick is still going to be fairly powerful.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.
'Attacking,' the adjective, means that a creature is in the red zone. The verb 'attack' means that a creature has changed from a non-attacking creature to an attacking creature. It's the transition that is important to determine if a creature has attacked.

You can also think of abilities that trigger on creature attacks as like there is a security camera pointed at exactly the edge of the red zone. It can see creatures that aren't attacking move in, but if a creature is born in the red zone, the camera doesn't see it.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.

AngryBooch posted:

I always screw up this rule when it comes up:

Invoke Calamity does not allow you to cast Sorceries at Instant speed correct?

edit: or does it? I think it's good if it does!

This should get around normal sorcery speed timing restrictions, for the simple fact that the rules don't allow you to cast a spell during another spells resolution, so once that's out the window, it's a free for all.

Strong Sauce posted:

i thought you have to still follow instant/sorcery rules for this unless the card says something like you can treat the cards like they had flash?

The key difference is whether the spell makes you cast it as part of resolution, or enables you to cast the spell for a certain duration. "You may cast cards exiled this way until the end of your next turn" let's you basically pretend the cards are in your hand; you still are subject to the normal restrictions.

Abhorrence fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Jan 28, 2022

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.

disaster pastor posted:

This probably won't be good enough, but I really like the flavor.

It's a bonesplitter if nothing else.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.
Also with companions, it needs to be obvious if you have failed the deck building requirements. So, say, "only even CMC" or "no permanent with CMC greater than 2" works, but something like "exactly the same amount of even and odd CMCs" or "you have to include exactly 4 copies of each non land card in your deck" wouldn't.

Fake edit: of these, Lutei comes the closest to not working, as you might, theoretically, want to include 2 copies of a key card to make sure you draw it, and just never play the second copy if you get it. Still a huge risk though.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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Vincent posted:

"When this creature enters the battlefield, opponent gains control of it"


It occurs to me that there is some alternative universe where everything else is the same, except this gets printed in alpha instead of grizzly bears. As a result, they call a 2/2 for 2 an "ape" instead of a "bear."

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.
The weirdness comes from the clause in the second half, but I imagine it's a safety valve.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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HootTheOwl posted:

Crew the loving vehicle, Shinji

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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The Shortest Path posted:

I'm sorry that you want to believe these wizards employees are your friends instead of people trying to sell you poo poo.



The Shortest Path posted:

What on earth are you talking about lol

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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brugroffil posted:

Changing the colorless frame color was a dire mistake. Go back to brown!!!

Just be thankful they changed the artifact frame to be more silver. I still remember release Mirrodin where it was difficult, legitimately difficult to tell white and artifact cards apart.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

I considered that possibility, but it has Alchemist's Gambit from VOW, which is after MH2.

Yeah the inclusion of Foil and especially Thwart, a card that I have used to great effect in mental magic and nowhere else, really tends to indicate that it was just a cross section of "counters a spell" and "can be played for no mana."

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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Cactrot posted:

The phyrexian type getting added was the lid and solitude was the nail on the coffin. I really liked playing it it both modern and legacy, before those changes it was still fun but bad, now it's just bad unfortunately.

I have not kept up with Modern for some time; how does adding the phyrexian card type gently caress infect up? I can see how solitude screws infect, especially since they don't have Gix Probe any more to see if the coast is clear.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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Captain Invictus posted:

yes, it's very good, but apparently it can't be licensed due to some sort of agreement in japan? which sucks, and I'd love an anime of it since it's a really good manga. plus I love the artist's style, the blockiness of the characters and the emotional style they give them, it's great.

also the depth of their knowledge of mtg of the time is something else

The Manga is great because, among other things, it has a secondary character give an impassioned anime speech about how they've been practicing, and they have improved as a person, etc etc, then kill their opponent on turn 1 with a degenerate "tinker into Memory Jar" deck.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.
Ability word that wasn't originally an Ability word is either threshold or domain, probably domain.

Edit: it could also be imprint.

Abhorrence fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Aug 15, 2022

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

A love that crushes like a mace.

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

if both are out on the field but don't go into combat, the "can't gain life" ability wins out... much to think about

All that's required for evil the black knight to triumph is for good men the white knight to do nothing.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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W.T. Fits posted:

Dumb Commander question: if I have the new Sol'kanar as my Commander, I can't cheat my way out of the fourth option ("Exile Sol'kanar, then return it to the battlefield under an opponent's control") using the "if your Commander leaves play, you can return it to your Command Zone instead" rule, since the entire ability has to resolve before the game checks state-based effects to see that he was exiled, correct?

You can't cheat the last effect because even if you chose to replace putting him in exile with putting him into the command zone you still have to return him to the battlefield. When an Ability just says to 'return' a card, it doesn't care if it ended up going to a different zone than it 'expected'. And the game doesn't "lose track" of him, like one might expect- in order for that to happen, he would have to go to exile, then leave exile to a different zone, but if it's a replacement effect, he just goes straight to the command zone, so the rules still know where he is.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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Lord Banana posted:

But then when you cast him aren't you creating a new instance of him?

Yes, but you're not casting him.
You are performing the exact same action as you would if he wasn't your Commander. You are going to move him from the battlefield to another zone, then move him from that zone to the battlefield. It doesn't matter if the other zone is the command zone or the exile zone, he behaves the same way in either case.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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AlternateNu posted:

This is wrong with the 2020 change in the commander rule. As Toshimo mentioned, moving a commander to the command zone is now a special state-based action which occurs after the commander has moved zones. (This is why you now get death triggers from commanders being destroyed.) So, Sol'Kanar is exiled with his own effect, but before the effect fully resolves, he moves from the exiled zone to the command zone, and the "return" clause in the effect loses track of him.

Before this rules change, you would run into situations where Grasp of Fate-style exile effects would cause commanders to get dragged out of the command zone back onto the field when the enchantment left the field because replacing the exile with a move to the command zone ensured the card was still tagged by the "return" clause.

This is no longer the case since the card in now moving zones TWICE, meaning the "return" tag gets lost.

So I haven't played Commander in a while (not since 2020 apparently) and I didn't know about this change... but if it's a state based action, you would not check it during the resolution of an ability,, so Sol'kanar would just exile and come back to the battlefield under an opponent's control, with no way to cheat it.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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Strong Sauce posted:

there was more to his argument but he's saying the analyst only looked at the 2 nearest targets, one of which isn't really a target you go to for magic. but besides that people don't necessarily buy magic from big box stores only and using 2 stores to project onto the health of the game doesn't seem robust.

In New York City, of all places, which is about an atypical location as you can get and completely insane to extrapolate into nationwide trends.

Edit:The island of Manhattan has a population of 1.694 million people, and is 22.83 square miles. The United States is 3.79 million square miles, so therefore, the total population of America is 281.7 billion.

Abhorrence fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Nov 15, 2022

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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Goa Tse-tung posted:

the signets and talismans (and reverse engineered Felwar Stone!) clearly demonstrate you can replicate any (reasonable) land by making it a 2 mana artifact


that's right, we need Shock Rocks

The funny thing is that the land doesn't even have to be completely reasonable. The "signet lands" from Odyssey were absolute dogshit and no one played them.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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quote:

Background
On June 5th, 2017, Hambly uploaded a video titled "Playset Of Beta White Knights Prevent Rape Of MTG Cosplayer @cspranklerun" on the UnsleevedAfterDark channel. While the video has since been removed by YouTube, an archived version is available at the Internet Archive.[1] In the video, Hambly posted a video criticizing cosplayer Christine Sprankle for complaining about harassment she had received on social media, claiming she was attempting to drive Patreon donations by pretending to be a victim.


Developments
In mi-November 2017, Sprankle announced that she was quitting Magic the Gathering following harassment she had received due to Hambly's videos.


Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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Charity Porno posted:

ok where did Rudy defend this?

So, I did some digging, because I was unaware of the connection, I only knew who Hambly was, but check out the pinned comment.

This does link to Hambly's YouTube channel so I recommend clearing it from your view history.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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Charity Porno posted:

there's no way in gently caress I am watching a Hambleast video THAT should be a crime against humanity

Fair enough. Here's a screenshot. Not exactly Rudy saying that he's supporting harassment, but it's a very friendly message to someone who was basically radioactive by this point. (The video was released in October 2017)



Edit: rechecked the timeline, this was a month before Sprankle announced she was quitting. "Radioactive" may have been overstating it, but Hambly had already accused her of faking being harassed for attention by this point.

Abhorrence fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Dec 4, 2022

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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precision posted:

I'm not at all surprised, yet still, lmao

He's literally the most family friendly, fair person in the magic sphere. Funny that there are people who support extremely graphic rape fanfiction and WOTC doesn't care

You can't just say that and not elaborate!

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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Tweet is already gone. What was it?

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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Sickening posted:

Was it even good in standard of old? You read this card and think "drat, this is a powerhouse". But when you play it, it either just died right away, nobody ever blocks it, and/or nobody ever attacks into it. All which seem powerful, but it often isn't the powerhouse you expect.

It was printed in the same set as dismember.

Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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reignonyourparade posted:

If you look at sheldon's decks you'll see that for the most part he personally just basically doesn't run any spot removal, yeah. That's the vision of commander that he's talking about Mother of Machines being a "Don't print this card" powerlevel for.

In Sheldon's meager defense, 1 for 1 spot removal is fairly bad in 4 player games, as it puts you and your target down a card vs. The other two players.

It's still a nessicary evil, however, for when poo poo like Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines hits the table.

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Abhorrence
Feb 5, 2010

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LGD posted:



consider: let's say the deck was shuffled blindly by a judge during a contentious match and neither the judge or I saw any cards, but when I get my deck back I know my top card isn't a lightning bolt because they're in sleeves that are actually marked because in this scenario I'm a big 'ol cheater (obviously unacceptable, but also entirely besides the point because you're once again arguing against what you'd like me to be saying rather than what I actually am)

did the third party judge not sufficiently randomize the deck? or is marking (and information that can be thereby derived) actually not the same thing as "sufficient" randomization?


I used to be a level 1 judge, and I can tell you that, at least at the places I have judged, in an REL-competative event, someone who's cards are oriented different ways would be viewed with suspicion, and probably be asked to orient their cards uniformly, at a minimum.

As for your example, I would say 'no.' The judge did nor sufficiently randomize the deck, because he was prevented from doing so by the presence of marked cards. A deck is sufficiently randomized when players correctly believe that any given card remaining in the deck is equally likely to be in any given position in the deck. Anything that skews that means the deck is insufficiently randomized.

Edit: Hoot is correct, in re: shuffling.

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