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Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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THE BAR posted:

Twitter wants me to log in all of a sudden. Is that a new thing, or something on my end?

same here, every Twitter link is requiring a login.

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Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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grumplestiltzkin posted:

waking up to see that :byetankie: pissed off a tankie trust fund baby so hard that they rage bought avatars to own their posting enemies has made today a good day

:byetankie:

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Mr Teatime posted:

Lmao at the Honor Herturnington av spam.

:laffo: wheres the cat

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Dumb Sex-Parrot posted:

They mention cases where Ukranians are dressing up in Russian uniforms? Am I reading this right?

Yes, although its v. questionable if it were actually Ukraine military and not partisan fighters.

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

Yeah. Japan's entire military strategy against the United States was "do a surprise attack and sink enough of their navy that they'll have to agree to favourable terms because they won't have an effective navy to fight us with", because replacing lost ships takes so long.

It can't be stressed enough how incredibly, amazingly, shockingly, uniquely massive America's warship production was during World War II, and even then they didn't let ships sink if they could do absolutely anything about it. One of the big things that won the war for the United States was their extremely high competence in damage control, because it enabled them to keep their ships afloat and fighting.

:hai: They also raised every working battleship except the Arizona. I don't think the Japanese considered what it would take to actually keep those ships out of the war.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:

It can't be stressed enough how incredibly, amazingly, shockingly, uniquely massive America's warship production was during World War II, and even then they didn't let ships sink if they could do absolutely anything about it. One of the big things that won the war for the United States was their extremely high competence in damage control, because it enabled them to keep their ships afloat and fighting.

:lol: As compared to drowning 300 of your own men to counteract listing in a fight you knew you'd inevitably lose? :lmao:

quote:

"But what about the Navy? What are they doing to assist in defending Okinawa? Have we no more ships?" Now feeling pressured by the emperor to also mount some kind of attack, Japanese Navy commanders conceived a kamikaze-type mission for their remaining operational large ships, which included the battleship Yamato.

sounds familiar :thunk:

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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spankmeister posted:

They have their own oil and refineries, how can they gently caress up this bad?

If they sell it at home, they get paid in rubles, which are obviously worthless

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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I am very sad that the Nazi street chef got made full of holes and fell from the sky :unsmigghh:

Does this make Poot Poot stronger or weaker?

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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pro starcraft loser posted:

I guess I was just too used to seeing crashes from the war when the plane is that high up when it's initially hit.

its this. Most of the planes in the war have been hit <10k altitude. The engines probably died, the control surfaces/mechanisms would've died along with them, and there's a giant hole in the fuselage. If the plane were ascending, or there were headwind, or the pilot just yanked the yoke back when they heard the noise, than all of its forward momentum would bleed off pretty quickly and it would tumble/fall like it did in the video.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Arivia posted:

catherine the great had an infamous reputation that was reflected in her furniture

:nws: https://www.buzzfeed.com/mandycaruso/the-x-rated-furniture-of-catherine-the-great-is-something :nws:

so if today's russians are inheriting her legacy, they get the chairs and tables too!

:pusheen: the original cum edit

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Why not just push it outside with a tube. Why risk blowing up your own poo.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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William Bear posted:

The author of webcomic Terminal Lance, about life in the US Marines, once said that he knew three people who decided, independently of each other, to set their own pubic hair on fire when bored.

https://terminallance.com/2010/06/08/terminal-lance-41-standing-post-stages-of-boredom/

A friend of mine joined the Marines at 27. He said that he started to memorize entire albums and sing them to himself in his head, starting over if he hosed up. :stare:

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Big rear end On Fire posted:

Recent vid turned up Chinese made 60mm mortar rounds


https://twitter.com/i/status/1696080189514788912

While thats certainly a Chinese 60mm mortar the 60mm mortar form-factor has been around since WW2

IMO this isn't necessarily indicative of Chinese support. There's numerous scenarios where ancient surplus Chinese mortar rounds end up in Russia. Its even possible that Iran had them laying around and shipped them over :shrug:

FAUX EDIT
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1571180467377917952

Seems like this has come up before and the consensus is they're surplus Albanian ammo

REAL EDIT

What would the Russians even shoot these from? they dont use 60mm mortars. They pretty famously use 81/82mm mortars.

Vampire Panties fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Aug 29, 2023

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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god please help me posted:

I like War Crime Gigolo. :shobon:

:same:

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

It happened again: War Thunder players leaked confidential materials.

E:

This. And also there are plenty of examples from history of people using guns to fire indirectly. It was a pretty common tactic in World War I for multiple machine gunners to fire indirectly at presumed enemy assembly points, and leading up to World War II at least German machine gunners were specifically trained for indirect fire as well.

:dogstare: people are going to have to start disclosing playing War Thunder on their clearance application forms :dogstare:

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Jimlit posted:

Is war thunder even a sim like that? Every video I see makes it just look like an arcade deathmatch kinda game.

Yes and no. The underlying game engine is really complex and (at least somewhat) accurately models the physics underneath. For example, if you shoot a wing off a plane, its not hit points and damage, the game is modeling your 20mm shell hitting the wing spar and calculating how much force it can take. (:ssh: its still hit points but with extra steps :ssh:) The way the game works sorta/kinda supposedly simulates real life warfare (insomuch that a tiny bush 2km away can wreck your poo poo) but the actual format of the game is basically counterstrike - 2 opposing teams, specific goals, limited respawns. At the highest graphics settings the game models are basically photorealistic, and the game will run well on a variety of hardware, and (AFAIK) its the easiest :airquote: sim :airquote: multiplayer aircraft game you can get into.

The bad side is the game's economic structure and pay-to-win vehicles coupled with the round-based nature and individual goals makes the player base salty as hell. Imagine if a LoL player could post a technical manual on why Amumu has armor piercing rounds (dont @ me I know nothing about LoL and had to google a character name)

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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ishikabibble posted:

Most people aren't really aware that what they have is classified tbh.

It's a big scare word but most/all of the poo poo that's leaked has been on the same level of 'classified' as a guy in the service posting where his new duty station is. It's, in the US parlance, literally 'Controlled Unclassified Information'.
It's stuff that's reasonably deemed to not have a serious security risk if its released to the public, but still isn't actually cleared for it because it hasn't gone through the declassification process.

The Eurofighter manual that got 'leaked' is for a specific and now decommissioned developmental aircraft variant for the Italians, and has apparently been freely downloadable on the internet for years, apparently. The guy who posted it is probably just some rando plane nerd who found it and went 'omg this plane is cool, I wonder if they'll add it to my favorite game War Thunder? :kiddo:'

They've expanded to include planes such as the Su-24 and F-14 and IIRC they just introduced the F-16. It seems very likely they'll be adding all modern fighting vehicles within the next few years

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Ataxerxes posted:

There was a short movie, I think it was done by the BBC, about the first British tank attack from the viewpoint of the commander of one of the tanks. It captured the chaos and confusion of operating a Mark I really well, and the crew realizing that the supposedly bulletproof armor isn't.

:haibrow:https://search.alexanderstreet.com/preview/work/bibliographic_entity%7Cvideo_work%7C3366552

Our World War, Episode 3 - War Machine. Its really good.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Karate Bastard posted:

If poccnr suddenly gave you an opportunity to take back territory long since stolen from you by poccnr and filled full of poccnians, would you take it?

well, outside of it being literally against their constitution to have an offensive military force....

What i mean is, Snake Island 2 : japanese funk boogaloo

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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mobby_6kl posted:

Right, and they don't have any aircraft carriers either :troll:

They dont! :ssh: They're Super Dimensional Fortresses :v:

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Baronjutter posted:

I was reading up on how bad attrition from supply mismanagement can be and holy poo poo fascist japan just straight up murdered a vast amount of their own army through starvation, not combat.

"There were 2.3 million military deaths, of whom 1.4 million died away from the battlefield, succumbing to disease and starvation."

Why are fascists so loving bad at everything?

Yeah the Japanese didn't really surrender until there were <100 guys left. Seeing as they left 18-21 thousand men on Iwo Jima alone, thats a big problem.

They also used human beings as cruise missiles

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Cicero posted:

Presumably these are for the F-16's, right? And whatever other western fighter jets may get added to the pile.

I'm confused why the US isn't committing to sending over any F-16's or F-15's, since it seems we're gradually replacing the old ones with F-35's anyway.

They're also used in NASAMS but AFAICT Ukraine only has two deployed in-country (although they ordered 250m worth from Uncle Sam back in May)

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Tai posted:

I'm sure heaving lots of extra weight on a wing for hours a day will surely not shorten the life span of it.

Those planes are old as gently caress I dont even know what the lifespan on a Tu-95 airframe is. The last new Boeing B-52 airframe was delivered in 1962. Its kinda interesting how impervious and long lasting these planes could be, but also :lol: that some cardboard drones got more Russkie nuke bomber kills than the entirety of the USAF strategic command :v:

Its not an understatement to say that hundreds, if not thousands of people spent their entire career thinking about fighting those loving things. And now they have tires on the wings because their neighbor (whom they picked a fight with) is destroying them with the equivalent of RC planes and sticks of dynamite. What even is this timeline

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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zone posted:


Presented without comment.

:allbuttons:

Putin is a real piece of poo poo

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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redshirt posted:

Again, "spitballing". Is there ANY out for Putin at this point other than victory or death?

No, but there wasn't an out for Putin even before the invasion. IIRC he enacted a bunch of legal poo poo a few years back that would potentially allow him to retire while still maintaining some legal power, but I'm guessing the inner reality of Russia showed that was never going to happen.

One way or another, it was always a one-way trip for Poot Poot when he took office in 2000.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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spunkshui posted:

The USA knows to kick your enemies if they are down. We are sending top tier tanks with these horrifying rounds lol

Found a sliced open image of one.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/10f8ftl/american_m829a4_armorpiercing_tank_round/

Id go home personally.

:lol: that is a 22lb chunk of depleted uranium that when fired is moving 25% faster than a bullet from a hunting rifle. You don't use that for infantry, but it will make a very precise hole in up to 800mm (!!!) of RHA.



Thats the duder that would make me pack it up and call it a day.

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Apr 18, 2001
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Der Kyhe posted:

Poland bought enough so that they can be shared with the class if Putin decides in 5-10 years to go somewhere else in the Eastern Europe and USA is lead by a known Putin associate on work release parole and Germany manages to find someone even more spinless to replace the current head of state.

:hmmyes:

Since the current HIMARS are from the 90s, it seems like they keep well. I'd have to assume that Poland is going to bring support and ammo manufacturing in-house, so with ongoing technology updates HIMARS could still be effective a hundred years from now.

Also 18 absolutely loving wrecked Russia's poo poo. A 10b investment for land-based artillery seems steep, but its way cheaper than the NATO CAS platinum package.


Nelson Mandingo posted:

Honestly it's funny how Putin is going to be known as the guy who crippled Russia, where before Feburary 2022 he would have gone down in history as the man who did everything he could to restore the nation to greatness before they became a resource colony of China.

:hmmno: He was always going to be known as the guy who crippled Russia. The oligarchic system he created/enforced has ruined whatever societal progress Russia had made under the USSR. IMO Poot Poot somehow came to this realization a decade ago (albeit he may have simply asked the question "what the gently caress am I going to do with all this money I stole") and figured that if he reunited the satellite states back into a functioning nation*, he may have a proud spot in Russian history. :lol::lmao: but he got too greedy and delved too deep





*:airquote: functioning :airquote: because oligarchs would loot,pillage, and burn everything to the ground 10x worse then they did in Russia.



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Nessus posted:

Whatever his ultimate reputation, he definitely broke his army's dick doing this poo poo. I suppose if they are able to reconstitute and reconstruct it, it will probably be a better force pound per pound, but how much military can Russia afford?

For that matter, are all their nuclear deterrent stuff also soviet vintage? Are they building any new missile subs?

Russia's army won't reconstitute for a generation at least. Russia is at a point where they have to build the schools to train the engineers to design the factories to produce the tanks.
As for Russia's military production of large-scale vessels, :shrug: Russia's press releases and whatnot are worthless and the IC who can see the satellite imagery don't share. The big outcome of the Ukraine war is that India seems to have canceled (but maybe not?) several large orders of military equipment, which may or may not include the nuclear sub deal they had.

Vampire Panties fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Sep 11, 2023

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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karoshi posted:

Can you park 486 HIMARSes on the biggest container ships and empty their magazines without the ship sinking? Asking for a project.



I think you could only fit 6-8 maybe?

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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spankmeister posted:

If you put effort into makoing your tanks reverse faster instead of going forward it means youre winning right?

The Swedes thought so

Philonius posted:

We really dodged a bullet here by not sending the Ukrainians any M4 Shermans. Those would have a pretty rough time.

:haibrow: I dont know why real life is resembling War Thunder, but getting uptiered against T-54s in anything from WW2 suuuucks

Ofc Ukraine has modern stuff :v:

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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HonorableTB posted:

Edit: I'm not worried about nukes in any case because of where I live. I'd be vaporized instantly between the two major metro areas of Seattle and Tacoma, Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Bremerton Naval Base, the strategic industry of Boeing, Hanford nuclear power plant, and the shipping capacity of the Puget Sound ports. I'm so nuked it's unreal and simply not worth giving any consideration to because of how futile it is lol. So many warheads are aimed at my balls that I would cease being biology and start being physics

:haibrow: I live in San Diego. Unless Ronald Reagan-class carriers have a previously unknown, 100% unerring ballistic missile intercept system, it'll be over instantly. Even with six hours of warning I couldnt fight past the other 2 million+ people in San Diego (not withstanding LA and Riverside people who'd all be fleeing in the same direction) to get anywhere that is appreciably safer or less nuked.

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Apr 18, 2001
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fatherboxx posted:

I have recently learned that in the past ten years Russian airlines deliberately headhunted most military pilots straight from pilot schools. Military pilot doing bombing runs in Syria would get 100 000 rubles monthly salary (1,5k usd on prewar rates, barely above median federal salary, now are certainly higher because even cannon fodder mobiks get 200k+, but too late) while civilian pilots are paid 500k monthly. Various SEA airlines also have been offering competetive rates.

Thats also the reason why Russian airforce has not managed to secure air superiority in Ukraine.

tbf, :catstare: ditching an A320 in a field with complete hydraulic failure :catstare: is some impressive piloting.

There are not enough :vince: in the world to describe the idea of a loving Airbus A320 ditching in a field because of mechanical failure. As much as Spirit and Frontier are poo poo-tier airlines, nobody is genuinely worried their SFO-ATX flight is going to have to ditch controlled crash-land outside of Flagstaff

The_Franz posted:

No worries, the replacement token fat dictator just arrived:
https://twitter.com/Kremlinpool_RIA/status/1701577404815208926#m

I've always wondered why they go with these ancient marching arrangements. They're dictators, they could have a Queen cover band play We Are The Champions while they walk out, or a full orchestra play the intro to Star Wars, because they're dictators, wtf is someone going to sue them for copyright infringement?

Vampire Panties fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Sep 12, 2023

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Apr 18, 2001
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Der Kyhe posted:

My guess is that that airframe isn't going anywhere from that field, besides being stripped for donor parts and cut to pieces.

Too bad that the sanctions do not work, and that Tupolev was stripped down and grifted between the oligarch, as it seems that Russia sure could use a national company that can build airplane spare parts, even less than ideal jury rigged and reverse engineered ones, right about now.

:haibrow: Oh yeah that plane is never moving again. There really isnt a capacity to move a plane that size w/o cutting it into pieces. I wonder how much parts will fall off the truck :v:

Coolguye posted:

all of these random fires i have to wonder what the actual distribution of causes are

like ok, smoking accidents, yeah i am positive there's plenty of those. terrible maintenance being revealed by wartime shortages and stressors, absolutely. a lot are also undoubtedly due to ukranian drones, though a TV station would be outside their usual targets.

the part that i am curious about is cyberattacks. if you're using software, especially industrial software, poorly and don't have manual/hardware failsafes, some hacking can absolutely cause a gas valve to get stuck open and whoopsie poosums you're a spark away from a gas fire.

the thing is, because russia's been so huge about DoMiNaNcE oF cYb0r and the perpetrators aren't really going to be interested in claiming responsibility for cyberattacks (because that increases the chances of the vulnerabilities getting fixed), everyone involved in a cyberattack wouldn't say a drat thing about it. i can't help but wonder how many of these fires are someone hacking various gibsons around moscow.

IIRC Russia farmed out their cyber/troll farms to Ukraine

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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HonorableTB posted:

lmfao elon "decided to" turn over the parts of starlink that are used for the war to the pentagon.

"decided to"

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1702035419938857246?s=20

Somehow I think what really happened was the Department of Defense finally had enough of elon's fuckery and just took it and said deal with it or lose the rest too



:airquote: decided to :airquote:

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Captain Fargle posted:

How replaceable are these Russian anti-air systems? I want to get some context on how significant a hit this is. How many of them do they have and how long does it take to manufacture one?





Depends. The growler launchers would be relatively easy to replace, because they're mostly ammo and truck. The radar pictured is probably Cheeseboard radar fire control, which is relatively old and a holdover from the S300 system. They're still pretty good, but Russia would have still have a decent amount* laying around. If they were the Gravestone, Russia's latest and greatest, replacing those would be difficult.





*:lol::lmao: probably being used as a generator for a dacha

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Apr 18, 2001
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HonorableTB posted:

The thing to understand about Russian is that a lot of the translations are wonky because of the extensive use of mat. Mat is a sublanguage made up of pretty much nothing but cursing. There are at least 37* different meanings for "gently caress your mother" (yob tvoyu mat) that are dependent on tone, context, etc. It could mean anything from "This surprised me" to "That's excellent" to "Literally gently caress your mother" (this will get you beaten). A good mat speaker - something pretty much only native speakers can converse fluently in - looks like that mishmash of florid prose and raw vulgarity.

Fun fact: mat is legally regulated by Roskomnadzor, the government agency responsible for censoring and blocking the internet in Russia

*slightly exaggerating but not by much

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mat_(Russian_profanity)

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

quote:

Four pillars of mat

In 2014, Roskomnadzor compiled a list of four lexical roots, with any words derived from these roots - nouns, adjectives, verbs, participles etc - of the Russian language which it deemed "absolutely unacceptable in the mass media": khuy ("cock"); pizda ("The Australian Word"); yebat ("to gently caress"); and blyad ("whore"). Since Roskomnadzor is the governmental agency legally entitled to make such decisions, this is exactly the currently active Russian legal definition of "mat".[2]

Having couch surfed in Sacramento intermittently for a decade+, I've heard a lot of Russians smiling and laughing when they say "go gently caress your mother" and now it makes a lot more sense :hmmyes:

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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SquirrelGrip posted:

Wtf is the Australian word

Type it and find out!

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Apr 18, 2001
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the popes toes posted:

"Our production manager was a woman, and one day she called me in and gave me an assignment. And then she looked at me and said, ’Yob tvoyu mat’ ’ – ’Make sure it loving gets done!’ I’d never heard her use mat before. She used it to show that she was being straight with me."

and

"Even Peter the Great was a master of mat: while decapitating rebellious Kremlin guards, he let out an immense stream of mat, a legendary tapestry of seventy-four words woven together by the force of his wrath."

Good mat write up here: http://www.russki-mat.net/e/mat_VEvrofeyev.htm

:laffo::laffo::laffo: thank you for this

English just doesnt have the structure for poetic vulgarity. Even the best swearers I've known, between army lifers and elevator operators in NYC, could only keep it going for 3 or 4 sentences before it gets overwrought. I mean, The Man from Nantucket doesn't have poo poo on this:

quote:

At times, the characters of mat’s urban folklore can take on the appearance of mythical monsters, such as Yebena mat’ and V-rot-yebis’ (literally, «hosed mother» and «gently caress-yourself-in-the-mouth».. Faced with these terms, translation admits defeat. One chastushka – a verse akin to the limerick-goes like this:

A man stands on the bridge there, look.
He seems a lot like Mother-gently caress.
Then out of nowhere drawing near
See gently caress-Yourself-in-the-Mouth appear.

:pusheen::pusheen::pusheen:

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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and to bring the Forrest Gump reference full circle, in the book Forrest's friend Bubba is referenced as one of :airquote: McNamara's Morons :airquote: (IIRC I think it was really blatant its been a long time since I read it)

It wasn't enough for the US to warcrime Vietnam, they had to warcrime itself

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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Interesting. Monke is sorta damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-dont. During the first Odessa-amphibious feint, the Baltic fleet only had 4 of these landing ships and IIRC the general IC consensus was that Russia needed at least 6 to make it work. Is Russia ever going to get their poo poo together for an amphibious assault on Odessa? gently caress no, but now they have the required numbers. Its obviously posturing, even if the ships survive the crossing they would be dead as gently caress when they get into range of the shore, but Russia has a very finite amount of these landing ships left. Another storm shadow strike and Russia will factually lose the ability for an amphibious assault against Ukraine.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
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on one hand, :stare: thats 60 tons of metal moving at freeway-ish speeds :stare:

on the other hand, :lol::lmao: that :airquote: dust :airquote: being kicked up from the treads is the tank absolutely annihilating that pavement. :byoscience: Why :chaostrump: didn't get his tank parade in DC - the roads literally wouldnt support it :v:

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Apr 18, 2001
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I sat down and did the math, and if I hadn't slept through the recruiter picking me up and taking me to the ASFAB test, I would have been exactly 3 1/2 years into the US Army when 9/11 happened.

Massive respect to everyone who served, but I've always felt that sleeping through that alarm clock was a gift.

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