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FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Agrajag posted:

The Al something or other dinner. Yeah, the cardinal thing.
Al Smith Dinner.

I'm reading a book about FDR right now and he was the former Gov of NY who ran in the 1920s for president a few times and got destroyed. He then opposed FDR in the 1932 Democratic Primary. They were friends prior to that but Smith was extremely pro business and FDR not at all. That was the big split between them.

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Goatman Sacks posted:

Huh, weird, Marines being the worst people.

White people are underrepresented in the Marine Corps and most Marines come from poor / workingclass backgrounds.

However, please continue to hate them as well as all West Virginians to prove your wokeness.

Complaint Compilation
Apr 8, 2016

:sax:

Cingulate posted:

Dunno, but in his essence, he is, and has been for decades, a millennialist predicting the coming of the endtimes. He's been selling Armageddon preparedness equipment for his main business forever, too.

Fuckin' internet. They used to only be broadcast on AM/shortwave.

PST
Jul 5, 2012

If only Milliband had eaten a vegan sausage roll instead of a bacon sandwich, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Agrajag posted:

What?

Also on another question anyone know whats up with some articles making the claim that the secret service hates Hillary?

I'm a Brit so given i've heard of the decades-long right wing propaganda dad spam, surely you must have as well?

There was all the 'US Soldiers hate Bill Clinton' that then turned into 'Finally Soldiers respect the president again' when Bush was appointed, and then right back to it with Obama again


http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/salute.asp

http://www.snopes.com/obama-salute-marine-one-video/

And specific to this one:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/secretservice.asp

Goatman Sacks
Apr 4, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

GalacticAcid posted:

White people are underrepresented in the Marine Corps and most Marines come from poor / workingclass backgrounds.

I don't care about their backgrounds, surveys show marines are far more likely than other branches to unrepentantly commit war crimes.

GalacticAcid posted:

However, please continue to hate them as well as all West Virginians to prove your wokeness.

There comes a certain point when you explain to the population bubble-gum version a billion times that their industry is dying, and they'd rather keep deleting mountains trying to keep it alive than adapt, that you just stop having sympathy for idiots.

Plus they so racist that Obama only won his 2012 primary there by 20 points to a convicted felon serving time.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Khisanth Magus posted:

One of the biggest problems with this is that general doctors are paid peanuts and good luck paying off medical school on that. That plus how you have to rush patients through as quick as possible just kind of kills any desire to be a GP. You have to go for one of the high paying specialties to make the money that everyone things doctors make.

I know it's hopeful, but Hillary's plans for helping people pay for college may help reduce health care costs indirectly by allowing more people to attend and maybe become GPs.

Of course, this is just as likely as repealing Obamacare and expecting costs to drop. I hate that companies can't even fathom even the smallest hit to the bottom line, and that we should put profits above ethics. :smith:

(disclaimer: I think Obamacare is a good start, but obviously more work needs to be done).

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


Fitzy Fitz posted:

I don't understand why they're so afraid of a Clinton presidency after none of their delusional fears came true under Obama. I mean I get it (they're idiots), but it's still stupid.

Their guns haven't been taken away. Sadie Hawkins dances haven't become mandatory. We're still the most powerful country in the world.

That's just proof they were able to fight off the evil Obama. Who knows if they'll succeed in their fight against Hillary.

Agrajag posted:

What?

Also on another question anyone know whats up with some articles making the claim that the secret service hates Hillary?

There's a guy on wingnut welfare and the tabloid circuit that tells anyone who listens (or buys his book) that Hillary hated and was disrespectful of the SS back in the 90s.

duz fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Oct 25, 2016

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer
Gander Mountain with the brilliant idea

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

TheBigAristotle posted:

Gander Mountain with the brilliant idea



This kind of poo poo is why some people think gun owners are loving nuts.

Goatman Sacks
Apr 4, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

TheBigAristotle posted:

Gander Mountain with the brilliant idea



Given the statistics involved with guns, I'd much rather as many conservatives as possible have them.

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

quote:

In a 2009 would-be consolation note to actors John Travolta and Kelly Preston after their son Jett passed away at the age of 16 after suffering a seizure while on a family vacation, Donald Trump “expressed his condolences to Preston, but not before he mentioned the time he tried to sleep with her,” Mother Jones reports:
It just never loving ends with Trump, does it? There just isn't a bottom.

VH4Ever
Oct 1, 2005

by sebmojo

TheBigAristotle posted:

Gander Mountain with the brilliant idea



I love how they claim Obama spent 8 years taking guns and they don't see how that contradicts ads like these ahead of a likely Hillary presidency. How can you stock up for her when President Blackenstein already took them all away?

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Don't trust any "polls" from The Military Times. That is a worthless rag.

Svanja
Sep 19, 2009
+1 for Hillary in Texas (Guadalupe County). This morning our polling place was very busy and for the first time in three elections, I saw more Hispanic and black people than white voters in the short time I was there. As I was leaving after using the voting machine, I couldn't help but leave grinning. A nice black lady was entering the building as I was walking out and she said in a low voice, "It feels good doesn't it?" and I exclaimed "Oh god it sure does" and we both started laughing and she commented that she couldn't help but see my huge smile and we both fist pumped the air and continued on our way.

Today has been a very good day.

Coheed and Camembert
Feb 11, 2012

Cingulate posted:


I love everything about this.

It's really weird how the 2016 election has convinced everyone that Scott Adams is a huge dweeb, but I'll take it.

https://twitter.com/pattymo/status/782303392584564738

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

woke wedding drone posted:

We'd better start compiling a list of forums, threads and twitter accounts for real-time meltdowns on election night. I don't want there to be even a minute's delay in it going into me

Big fan of this idea.

We should all get an assignment. I'd personally like to follow the vape-related ramblings of Grover Norquist, maybe some conservative cartoonists, I dunno.

The real question is who can handle chronicalling the meltdowns of the big fish, like Bill Mitchell, Sean Hannity, Scott Adams, etc.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Khisanth Magus posted:

One of the biggest problems with this is that general doctors are paid peanuts and good luck paying off medical school on that. That plus how you have to rush patients through as quick as possible just kind of kills any desire to be a GP. You have to go for one of the high paying specialties to make the money that everyone things doctors make.

The average GP in the U.S. makes 176k a year and has about 184k of educational debt.

They are actually much better off than the vast majority of people when it comes to salary / educational debt ratio.

Complaint Compilation
Apr 8, 2016

:sax:

TheBigAristotle posted:

Gander Mountain with the brilliant idea



After Obama's first election, in PA there were signs for gun expos all the time with the phrase 'get your guns while you still can.' This is a northern state. :(

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

They need to make these Trump files a tear a day 2017 calendar in time for Christmas season.

VH4Ever
Oct 1, 2005

by sebmojo

Svanja posted:

+1 for Hillary in Texas (Guadalupe County). This morning our polling place was very busy and for the first time in three elections, I saw more Hispanic and black people than white voters in the short time I was there. As I was leaving after using the voting machine, I couldn't help but leave grinning. A nice black lady was entering the building as I was walking out and she said in a low voice, "It feels good doesn't it?" and I exclaimed "Oh god it sure does" and we both started laughing and she commented that she couldn't help but see my huge smile and we both fist pumped the air and continued on our way.

Today has been a very good day.

Yeah some idiot at work told me only people with special circumstances can vote early in TX. This person was wrong. Gonna try to vote this week, maybe on Friday, got a polling place right near my house.

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!

Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:

Idaho has a ridiculously low cost of living and outdoorsy stuff here owns so gently caress you.

please move here and vote Democratic

Low cost of living because everyone has poo poo wages

Seriously, unless you have some high up executive job, you can expect to have your pay cut as soon as you move to the state

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Goatman Sacks posted:

Idiot poo poo

I think you would do well to consider for ten seconds where power comes from, where soldiers receive their training, who gives their orders, and what impoverishes communities in mind and materials. I guess blind hatred for the lowest rung on the ladder makes you feel good though so keep it at it, it's cheaper than therapy.

Goatman Sacks
Apr 4, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

GalacticAcid posted:

I think you would do well to consider for ten seconds where power comes from, where soldiers receive their training, who gives their orders, and what impoverishes communities in mind and materials. I guess blind hatred for the lowest rung on the ladder makes you feel good though so keep it at it, it's cheaper than therapy.

"I had a bad life that's why I shot that Iraqi girl after raping her"

Regardless of what life circumstances caused you to devolve into an animal, you're still an animal.

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Complaint Compilation posted:

After Obama's first election, in PA there were signs for gun expos all the time with the phrase 'get your guns while you still can.' This is a northern state. :(

They call it Pennsyltucky for a reason

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Khisanth Magus posted:

One of the biggest problems with this is that general doctors are paid peanuts and good luck paying off medical school on that. That plus how you have to rush patients through as quick as possible just kind of kills any desire to be a GP. You have to go for one of the high paying specialties to make the money that everyone things doctors make.

Paid peanuts? Are you loving serious? Like, yeah, they have a large amount of medical school debt but the BLS has Family and GP's pegged at $190k. That's not peanuts. Sure, specialists make even more but if we're calling $190k peanuts then what do you call a living wage for doctors?

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



I like that we're at a point where a dead-heat in AZ is disappointing.

Have this as a chaser:

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/790961905737273344

quote:

4 in 10 voters in Arizona say they already voted per Monmouth. Among them:

Clinton: 52%
Trump: 42%

And this!

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/790949740724748289

quote:

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio got booed off a stage in Orlando on Sunday, by a crowd that was overwhelmingly Latino.

canepazzo fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Oct 25, 2016

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Bassetking posted:

That's why we have a doctor scarcity.

We treat the front-line docs like poo poo, and make it loving rain on specialists.

Oddly enough that's only true when those specialists are mostly men. For the most part fields where women are just so happen to be the ones that pay less.







And that's not including the associated medical specialties which don't have their MD, where women get further screwed on pay.

Goatman Sacks
Apr 4, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

canepazzo posted:

I like that we're at a point where a dead-heat in AZ is disappointing.

Have this as a chaser:

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/790961905737273344

I was wondering if their polls might not be taking people who already voted into account. Guess that answers that.

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

TheBigAristotle posted:

Big fan of this idea.

We should all get an assignment. I'd personally like to follow the vape-related ramblings of Grover Norquist, maybe some conservative cartoonists, I dunno.

The real question is who can handle chronicalling the meltdowns of the big fish, like Bill Mitchell, Sean Hannity, Scott Adams, etc.

This list of Twits that a goon put together is what I use for mostly journalists and it'll definitely have some good stuff, but it'll mostly be from the one or two adamant pro-Trump figures that show up on it, and things retweeted by cackling journalists. It'd be awesome if someone compiled a similar list of straight-from-the-source pure black tar Trump.

VH4Ever
Oct 1, 2005

by sebmojo

Goatman Sacks posted:

"I had a bad life that's why I shot that Iraqi girl after raping her"

Regardless of what life circumstances caused you to devolve into an animal, you're still an animal.

You need to offer up proof for this horseshit or STFU. Just my opinion. I have my issues with how the military is used in this country, how force is projected, and how we treat our soldiers who are destroyed by war and can't make a life when they come home, but I am NOT going to start calling them animals. That is a very serious charge and cannot be levelled in whole or in part to anyone without hard evidence and a conviction in some sort of courtroom for such offenses.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Don't trust any "polls" from The Military Times. That is a worthless rag.

It might be a bad outlet, but the polling was done in conjunction with a real research group:

quote:

If American military personnel alone were selecting the next president, the contest would be a dead heat between Republican nominee Donald Trump and Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, according to an exclusive new survey by Military Times and Syracuse University's Institute for Veterans and Military Families.

Conducted in September, it is the first scientific breakdown of voting preferences among service members, and includes more than 2,200 responses from active-duty troops. And it shows a very different race than the one playing out on the broader national stage.

2,200 responses is a healthy sample size too.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Kilroy posted:

The title "Go Midwest, Young Hipster" is dumb and not a little infuriating, as though the current state of things is because of us selfish and liberal millennials who insist on living in a place where we're not actively hated and antagonized. "Oh, these poor rural areas are degrading because they've made it absolutely toxic for anyone who isn't over 55 and white to live there - why don't these selfish youngsters try to make them better by living there anyway?" :qq: gently caress this poo poo.

How about blaming the people doing the hating and the antagonizing for once? Is that too unAmerican?

lol "this town used to be loving garbage BUT LOOK WE THREW ON A FRESH COAT OF PAINT AND MADE SOME CRAFT BEERS" this is a really bad article friend

It's really more like "gently caress you I'm giving it to someone else who will put it to better use and not wish death upon me for it", but whatever.

The dirty secret is the places in Iowa with jobs aren't that bad.

Des Moines is pretty shockingly liberal for people who expect a GOP wasteland. Remember, Iowa's gone blue most of the last twenty years of presidential elections.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Admiral Ray posted:

Paid peanuts? Are you loving serious? Like, yeah, they have a large amount of medical school debt but the BLS has Family and GP's pegged at $190k. That's not peanuts. Sure, specialists make even more but if we're calling $190k peanuts then what do you call a living wage for doctors?

They're all living wages, but because there's a finite number of doctors it makes sense to incentivize the roles that have the most impact.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The average GP in the U.S. makes 176k a year and has about 184k of educational debt.

They are actually much better off than the vast majority of people when it comes to salary / educational debt ratio.

But when you consider the shame they face compared to their specialized brethern, its unbearable!

:sad:

Complaint Compilation
Apr 8, 2016

:sax:

Lemming posted:

They call it Pennsyltucky for a reason

Yeah after moving here, it was weird to meet an actual hillbilly.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Talmonis posted:

"Opposed to bullying." "Endorsing Donald Trump."

What the actual gently caress? Does this person not understand what a bully is?

He has no comphension of others and believes himself to the a true genius "master persuader" because he made millions on a full comic strip. He's also a raging MRA.

So no, he does not know what bullying is.

Goatman Sacks
Apr 4, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

VH4Ever posted:

You need to offer up proof for this horseshit or STFU. Just my opinion. I have my issues with how the military is used in this country, how force is projected, and how we treat our soldiers who are destroyed by war and can't make a life when they come home, but I am NOT going to start calling them animals. That is a very serious charge and cannot be levelled in whole or in part to anyone without hard evidence and a conviction in some sort of courtroom for such offenses.

Ah yes, convictions for war crimes, something the US absolutely does.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Goatman Sacks posted:

"I had a bad life that's why I make these posts."

VH4Ever
Oct 1, 2005

by sebmojo

Goatman Sacks posted:

Ah yes, convictions for war crimes, something the US absolutely does.

So you have no proof for anything you say. Good to know. /ignore

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Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Goatman Sacks posted:

Ah yes, convictions for war crimes, something the US absolutely does.

What exactly is your point? That super predators exist but they are our troops? That all marines are bad because we don't convinct enough marine rapist murderers? It is getting hard to tell through the smug

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