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Kale posted:Explain to me why I'm supposed to greet people attributing views to me I don't actually hold and generally being hostile on what ultimately approached a comedic "you can't actually be serious?" level to me at points with the graciousness and enthusiasm of social climber hosting a dinner party? You got mad someone said you were displaying some forms of covert white supremacy and I enumerated a specific example from tonight where you complained about identity politics because it made talking about video games with bigots unpleasant.
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squirrelzipper posted:That's a fair question, I'm an Australian who lives in Canada so yes, preacher heal thyself perhaps. But the difference is neither of my countries has elected a loving idiot yam fascist - the US did. So perhaps the urgency for the left there is a little more pronounced, or at least should be. Is the left unified where I live? No. Do I have literal nazis marching in my cities? Again no. Circular firing squads are dumb at the best of times but they can be tolerated when there's not existential threat. The US doesn't currently have that luxury. This should probably go into the CanPol thread but just FYI we do have literal Nazis walking in the streets of our cities. Calgary has had neo Nazis walk unmolested to city hall, and I believe there was a major planned march and counterprotest today. Here in Toronto we've got a (admittedly small) white supremacist march planned for September 14th and a corresponding counterprotest. We may not be getting the same coverage but Trump's election gave a green light to all the scum and we are no exception.
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Trabisnikof posted:You got mad someone said you were displaying some forms of covert white supremacy and I enumerated a specific example from tonight where you complained about identity politics because it made talking about video games with bigots unpleasant. I disputed the idea that that's what I'm trying to do yes. I used conversations I've had on line about some video games recently as an example because that's a place where I've often had to hear that sort of poo poo being spewed lately. You then proceeded to concoct some bullshit straw man narrative where I complained about identity politics because it made talking about video games with bigots unpleasant like I want to talk with bigots in the first place. You think you're good at this whole twisting the meaning of what's being implied and argued in thing but you're not actually unless the goal is just pure grade shitposting. vaginadeathgrip posted:Ugh, I hate this thread. Well, see you guys tomorrow. Like others have said it's way better when Trump's shitposting on his private twitter account which he hasn't been as much lately. It's also pretty good when the GOP is getting stymied again on one of it's awful policy goals. The 10 day stint of The Mooch was pure gold in particular honestly. A magical time in the period I've been following it. Kale fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Sep 2, 2017 |
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When the only mainstream argument that seems to be occuring (or allowed) among Liberals is about whether the boots that are stomping on everyone's collective face are being worn by the correct proportion of minorities and woke white people, it can honestly be a little frustrating and it's hard to try and articulate this in a way that doesn't seem really super bigoted -- which, to some extent, I think is the point. This is not at all to dismiss the validity of such arguments, as they are very very valid. But it is frustrating that, for the most part, they are the only ones that seem to gain any significant media coverage. Especially when you realize that they are more or less framed and communicated by capitalists and Liberals in such a way as to grossly misrepresent and deflect the actual systemic issues that are loving with minorities.
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squirrelzipper posted:Was typing a phone response so missed this - apologies for multi posting. I appreciate this, are we sure that 'liberals' are lost? I don't know and I suspect you're right particularly when it comes to action folks who risk law enforcement reprisals. Don't see how we can win at the ballot box without the moderates in the US though, so it's again either divide and lose or, uh, just lose? Not trying to be a dick I get what you're saying, I'm just trying to square the circle over the next 3 years. Or is it over? Have we had too much reality tv and lovely capitalism and just need to start over? Let's go back to the halcyon days of mid-August, 2017: Kilroy posted:Yes, we do [need to unite against fascism]. And part of that is acknowledging that, whatever your beef with antifascists on matters of ideology or methods, they are not as bad as literal fascists. And that includes, when they are being attacked by idiots in the media and the loving POTUS for being "just as bad", saying "uh, no, they aren't". Which Mitt Romney of all people managed to do, and which Hillary Clinton has not. Fulchrum posted:To anyone who isn't that dumbfuck Kilroy, I think you can pretty easily figure out the legal reasons why a public official cannot send out a message saying "Go out and punch Nazis in the face" if they are in a position where that could be legally proven to be be directing people to do it. bird cooch posted:I'm not being an rear end in a top hat. Like I said, fighting Nazis good. bird cooch posted:Antifa on the street is the same gaggle of spirit-finger absoultionists from occupy with some contrarian anarchist thrown in for flavor. Talk about things that are inflated on the internet. Much like occupy the base ideas are good but everything above that gets lost in a swirling sea of a leaderless morass of everyones pet theories and demands.  Potato Salad posted:Hahaha you're literally asking me to sacrifice my right to have an abortion to give the Right a chance to enforce "unity" yronic heroism posted:It must really burn you that this is the thread for fighting fascism and no one cares about stupid poo poo like condiv word policing democrats' twitter feeds then. Prester Jane posted:Christ allmighty shut the gently caress up. The only deadweight in the struggle at the moment is yourself. This is not the time for your purity test bullshit or your outrage that other people aren't following your script for how the resistance should be conducted. I'd engage you but the best thing to do with someone like you in this situation is tell you to STFU and advise the rest of the thread to put you on ignore. bird cooch posted:Do you get off on people telling you to shut the gently caress up and go away? Boon posted:Mitt Romney didn't even make a defense of antifa like Kilroy is trying to claim. He's just another broke-brained idiot but on the left.
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Renaissance Spam posted:This should probably go into the CanPol thread but just FYI we do have literal Nazis walking in the streets of our cities. Calgary has had neo Nazis walk unmolested to city hall, and I believe there was a major planned march and counterprotest today. Here in Toronto we've got a (admittedly small) white supremacist march planned for September 14th and a corresponding counterprotest. We may not be getting the same coverage but Trump's election gave a green light to all the scum and we are no exception. Yeah. My mistake, they're everywhere and we're stuck fighting over who's worthy. Girl, we so hosed. E; kilroy - I kind of agree although c'mon Covok? I kid. But yeah I think we've passed the point of no return, we just don't know that the next step is going to be awful. Even if we win, it's going to be awful. squirrelzipper fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Sep 2, 2017 |
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Who needs a list there is only one poster who is the worst!Kale posted:I disputed the idea that that's what I'm trying to do yes. I used conversations I've had on line about some video games recently as an example because that's a place where I've often had to hear that sort of poo poo being spewed lately. You then proceeded to concoct some bullshit straw man narrative where I complained about identity politics because it made talking about video games with bigots unpleasant like I want to talk with bigots in the first place. You think you're good at this whole twisting the meaning of what's being implied and argued in order thing but your not actually unless the goal is just pure grade shitposting. You realize "only intentions matter" is actually listed on that pyramid right? Besides, you were pretty clear in your post: Kale posted:Also worth mentioning the brand of "identity politics" I so utterly loathe to discuss is that co-opted version of it places like /pol/ use to try to inject their inability to view the world through anything other than racist and baleful terms into every conversation they can. loving hate it. I don't want to be looking for information on a new game or something and have to hear some loving assholes latest diatribe on why they want to be pissy about a female character or non-white male character being in the game and horseshit about an SJW agenda etc. etc. It's painful to me. That's the "identity politics" I utterly loathe and seek to avoid entertaining conversations about for any length of time You don't want to hear bigots whine so you blame the people making the bigots mad, not the bigots. Now of course you'll declare that's not what you meant and how dare I take your words at face value.
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Trabisnikof posted:My favorite is racist podcast dude who got outted as having a Jewish wife. Also the wife was a fascist herself 
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Trabisnikof posted:Who needs a list there is only one poster who is the worst! How about I just think you're completely full of poo poo and this is just a purely personal beef where you're trying to create a scenario where there's a back and forth that's going around in circles. You're a joke in particular dude plain and simple. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Renaissance Spam posted:This should probably go into the CanPol thread but just FYI we do have literal Nazis walking in the streets of our cities. Calgary has had neo Nazis walk unmolested to city hall, and I believe there was a major planned march and counterprotest today. Here in Toronto we've got a (admittedly small) white supremacist march planned for September 14th and a corresponding counterprotest. We may not be getting the same coverage but Trump's election gave a green light to all the scum and we are no exception. Calgary hit peak neo nazi in the late two thousands and has quieted since then. Unless they came back and I didn't notice cause I'm old and bad at keeping up with local news. A little bit of Googling says the latest guys we've had around are your random assortment of far right 'anti-islam' people that claim to be be peaceful free thinkers but just magically seem to have connections to all sorts of white pride guys. Less people with SS tattoos and marches with white pride flags. Different optics. E: crept the Facebook of the leader of last week's rally. He's a fat neckband whose posts are half conservative memes and half thoughts about pro wrestling and.... power rangers? CRISPYBABY fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Sep 2, 2017 |
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Kale posted:How about I just think you're completely full of poo poo and this is just a purely personal beef where you're trying to create a scenario where there's a back and forth that's going around in circles. You're a joke in particular dude plain and simple. What a surprise you just make this into another personal attack. Whenever you get caught in your own posts you just pretend this part of the vast conspiracy against you.
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Trabisnikof posted:What a surprise you just make this into another personal attack. Whenever you get caught in your own posts you just pretend this part of the vast conspiracy against you. When it's just a shitposter I don't particularly give a gently caress what they think nor that they speak for everybody. Piss off now, I won't be able to see your posts anyway and we'll all be much happier for it.
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Kale posted:When it's just a shitposter I don't particularly give a gently caress what they think nor that they speak for everybody. And you're the same person complaining your poo poo posts don't get treated as golden eggs. But didn't you say you were done for the night hours ago?
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Matsuri posted:God this party is such a clusterfuck sometimes. It's hard to know what's going on half the time when you only originally came to get insight on current events but stayed for the bickering. Ftfy. Why the left loses. E: I changed 1 word.
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Isn't Kale finished trying to have the last word, yet? https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/903779279917514752
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Whoa, what if *everybody's* username linked to their pronounced worst post that they've ever made?
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/903767111138410496 They should just install a revolving door on the WH
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SocketWrench posted:They should just install a revolving door on the WH
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squirrelzipper posted:Ftfy. Why the left loses. That and really gaining a new perspective on why America has some of the problems it does and is in the process of tearing itself apart. Really glad it's not entirely my problem sometimes even though it sort of is even if again this is going to make me sound kind of insensitive. I mean it's been a fun day right. squirrelzipper posted:I missed this, and it's a good post saying part of what I was trying to say. It's also sort of what I've been trying to argue as well where I just don't see where exactly the end resolution point for all the polarization is supposed to be where it accomplishes the goal of getting things back in at least some order. I just had the whole some people really just wanting to scream at each other instead of actually having a dialogue thing reinforced big time today as well. Is economic de-polarization even realistic or still on the table? Failing that I have to wonder where it moves onto the next stage at least.
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SocketWrench posted:They should just install a revolving door on the WH Honestly from what I read Kelly is probably the most effective person in the WH and he's not going anywhere unless baby yam loses his mind. Kelly is the saviour that like 95% of the GOP has been hoping for. God I hope Cheeto emperor fires him.
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Whoa, what if *everybody's* username linked to their pronounced worst post that they've ever made? But anyway this feature of the OP would be pretty crucial (including more than one example post when it's more about broader patterns), because I see many people who are on that list still posting, seemingly in a totally reasonable manner, and although I know from the list that they did something incredibly hosed up once and can't be trusted to be an adult for much longer, I have no specific reason to believe that without a link. Without attaching evidence, fewer people heed the list and hit ignore, those posters get more visibility and more room in the thread is taken up by meltdowns and arguments with them that repeat history
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Kale posted:Stop Stop playing the victim and martyring yourself in D&d, retard. I've had to wade through your useless bullshit for pages to catch up, you sound like a whiny bitch boy that spends his time blaming everyone else for his own drat faults. As Coyote said, shut the gently caress up
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/903767111138410496 This seems on tract. Trump was already on the "say nice things in passing" stage of the relationship. Kelly just has enough audacity to bring it up in public himself instead of letting Trump "shock" people with the sudden firing. Who can they get to replace Kelly? Sheriff David Clarke? I know he left his post, but you got to be stupid as gently caress to accept this job since it's a guaranteed firing. And to leave your job for it, that's just a terrible move after Scarramouch. Is Trump going to need to pull another General out of the army by taking advantage of the fact they literally can't say no?
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Kale I don't think you're a secret Falangist, just an idiot with foot in mouth disease and can't be wrong syndrome but please just stop posting for a bit. There's a plethora of reasons why you should comply, and one of them is you're making the thread about yourself and it is hell on Earth
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Zoro posted:This seems on tract. Trump was already on the "say nice things in passing" stage of the relationship. Kelly just has enough audacity to bring it up in public himself instead of letting Trump "shock" people with the sudden firing. My read is Kelly is way more sacrosanct than the other trumpstaffel who could be easily replaced. I could be wrong but I don't think Kelly would go quietly into that good night. squirrelzipper fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Sep 2, 2017 |
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coyo7e posted:Isn't Kale finished trying to have the last word, yet? We already know what he sees (fox news) and what he does after it (twitter). He needs a ban from that poo poo instead
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squirrelzipper posted:My read is Kelly is way more sacrosanct than the other trumpstaffel who could be easily replaced. I could be wrong but I don't think Kelly would go quietly into that gentle night. I doubt it, really. I can see where you're coming from. Kelly is respected, a general of the army, and has a stern personality. Compared to the other people he fired, he seems a lot harder to target for firing. Indeed, I imagine firing Kelly would go over poorly in ways that the others could not compare to. After all, he actually has a career with a history one could argue that's why Jeff Sessions survived this. gently caress, do I wish Jeff Sessions got fired. But still, Trump is too narcissistic to accept someone trying to "reign him in." He's been rich his entire life, he really has no comparison to this kind of oversight. And his past shows that he's going to respond negatively and stupidly.
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squirrelzipper posted:Honestly from what I read Kelly is probably the most effective person in the WH and he's not going anywhere unless baby yam loses his mind. Kelly is the saviour that like 95% of the GOP has been hoping for. He will, Trump's a rich boy and once he realizes Kelly is keeping him from something he wants to do, well, there'll be a new boot print on Kelly's backside....and the GOP will pass the buck on responsability while his base worships the moment as a dimension 82 chess win
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There's just one problem with all the praise of John Kelly: he accepted a job in the Trump administration. It's only one data point, but it's a doozy. He's a shitheel and a coward and he'll take all the abuse Trump hurls in his direction, until he's outlived his usefulness and Trump fire him.
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Zoro posted:I doubt it, really. I can see where you're coming from. Kelly is respected, a general of the army, and has a stern personality. Compared to the other people he fired, he seems a lot harder to target for firing. Indeed, I imagine firing Kelly would go over poorly in ways that the others could not compare to. After all, he actually has a career with a history one could argue that's why Jeff Sessions survived this. gently caress, do I wish Jeff Sessions got fired. Man I hope you're right because imho Kelly is the man who's going to get poo poo done in the current administration. It would be awesome if he got fired, otherwise I think he'll get poo poo done.
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Kilroy posted:There's just one problem with all the praise of John Kelly: he accepted a job in the Trump administration. It's only one data point, but it's a doozy. Unless I'm mistaken, wasn't John Kelly not allowed to reject the offer because he was a general in the army? Thus, the offer was an order from the Commander in Chief and therefore cannot be ignored?
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