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Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


I just saw the first Godfather for the first time, and it was very good. What I don't understand:

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO AL PACINO? He's totally subdued and fantastic, never once bellowing and bugging his eyes out. Is it just age? I remember even by Dog Day Afternoon he had gone completely insane and "Pacino-y"

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Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Crazy Mike posted:

What's the name of the bonus scene that some movies have after the credits? Is there a website that has these in a non spoiler fashion so I know to expect one when I get to the theaters?
Those are called "codas" (singular: coda)

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Mean Bean Machine posted:

At first I thought it was just a way to convey some excitement, and that the best way the director thought to do it (with the more limited means back then) was to put that part in fast-motion. Then I realized how dumb that was, since this is loving Hitchcock we're talking about, and if he did it, he must have had a good reason for it.
Sort of an old quote from this thread, but I did want to ask, more generally, about this.

People always say of the great directors, "Everything they did was on purpose, nothing was accidental, everything has a reason." But it's my experience that all the workaday guys - all the ones making genre movies like Food Porn and rom-coms and gross-out comedies - they all have reasons for what they do, and are solid, effective directors.

So many times in a commentary on a DVD the director says "this extra was super-funny, so we put him up front" or "the actor just said it this way and we went with it." It just seems so arbitrary who is "a genius" in filmmaking.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


So I just saw Robocop 3 and I was wondering - the bad guy hitman is a mute, never has a line in the movie.

What is the SAG policy on people with major roles in films who still never speak (for instance, playing the lead in The Miracle Worker)? I know that "one line = SAG card", but what if they don't have a line, but are clearly above-the-line talent?

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


penismightier posted:

What kind of lenses are they using to get this sort of flare?



AfterEffects

I know after effects didn't exist back then, but it's what they'd use now

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


What happened to shorts? Seems only a few animated features do them anymore.

I can't imagine why DreamWorks wouldn't want to do, say, an 8-minute Skrat short and put it in front of their other features for a few months, with a giant "ICE AGE 12 - October 12th!" at the end of it.

Really I just want more Bugs cartoons.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


sector_corrector posted:

I'm doing a movie league with my friends which is based on pure domestic gross. We're doing a season that covers September through March. I think Mockingjay and The Hobbit are going to be the first two picks, with Interstellar at number 3. I have pick number 4.
Does hsx.com still have fantasy movie-betting?

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


xcore posted:

At the list of looking like a complete idiot:

What does a Director of Photography do?

And while I'm at it, what does a Cinematographer do?

The Director decides how he wants the movie to look (this scene should be 'cool', this scene should be a neat overhead thing)

The DP figures out how the gently caress to do that.

DP and Cinematographer are just two different names for the same thing.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:

The only two movies released this century worth watching are Spring Breakers and Prometheus.

effectual posted:

Prometheus owns though.least 4 is fun.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:

So yeah, what else would go on this list?
Ace of Base's "The Sign" in Slackers (the Devon Sawa college comedy) comes to mind as a particularly brilliant use of this.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


If someone was appearing in The Interview as their first speaking role, would they lose their SAG card since it isn't coming out anymore?

Also, past-quoting since I never got an answer:

Everblight posted:

What happened to shorts? Seems only a few animated features do them anymore.

I can't imagine why DreamWorks wouldn't want to do, say, an 8-minute Skrat short and put it in front of their other features for a few months, with a giant "ICE AGE 12 - October 12th!" at the end of it.

Really I just want more Bugs cartoons.

Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Dec 18, 2014

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


CzarChasm posted:

My wife and I were having a discussion the other day, and neither of us could come up with an answer. We were wondering why Boba Fett was seen as such a cool character in the movies? Ok, yeah, there's all the 'cool' stuff he does in the EU books, but he doesn't do a drat thing in the movies that anybody else could have done.

He's also the only bounty hunter smart enough to know about the sneaky trick Han pulled by stapling the Falcon to the back of an ISD and releasing with the trash. So he demonstrates his skills pretty quickly.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


FreshFeesh posted:

The entirety of Weezer's Undone (the Sweater Song) music video was filmed this way, actually.

Conversely, all of Little Shop of Horror's songs with the plant (other than "Grow for Me," I guess) were shot at between 1/2 and 1/4 speed, so the animation team could manipulate Audrey II's mouth competently, since it would be impossible in real-time. Rick Moranis was a trooper learning to sing to a puppet at half-speed.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Glory, you knobs

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Baron von Eevl posted:

Deep Rising ends on a beach. But wait! What's that sound?! Oh no, here we go again!

(Deep Rising is so dope)

"Now what?" is the best catchphrase and Deep Rising is my guilty pleasure, the movie that proved Stephen Sommers was ready to make the awesome Mummy movies as comedy-action. The essential problems with Deep Rising are as follows:
  • R-rating for gore and cursing, which while sweet, kept it from being the sort of PG-13 summer tentpole it should have been
  • January release
End of list. :colbert:

It had a plucky sidekick, cool monster effects, badass quip-spouting hero, and Wes-Goddamned-Studi being (much like in Street Fighter: The Movie) much better than the material given to him.

So love Deep Rising.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Steve Yun posted:

2001: A Space Odyssey is sitting at 96% on Rotten Tomatoes. This has to be bullshit.
2001 is a beautiful-looking mess that tries to cover up its lack of engaging story with esoteric visuals, hth

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Do people really think the subway chase sequence in The French Connection is good? Or is it just hype and people who saw it in 1971 and haven't re-watched it plus its own mythos? Because I just watched the whole movie, and it is bland as heck. Is it just because there weren't chase sequences before TFC? I find that hard to believe, when Bond and Bullitt were both in full swing (to say nothing of all the westerns with horse/stagecoach chases)

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I really love it, I don't know how to refute this though, really.
If Popeye Doyle lived today, there would be marches in the street against him. The chase started when a woman next to him was gunned down next to her stroller, and he left her there to die to steal a car and run down the perp without even ordering people to call the police or an ambulance. He steals a civilian's car (dubious legality) and almost runs down a baby in pursuit of a perp, who kills 3 more people during the chase before Doyle shoots him in the back (which Tennessee v. Garner ruled was totally illegal).

Taken in the context of Doyle trying to crack down on drugs (impossible to view without taking in the War on DrugsBlack People as an unmitigated failure and horrific generational oppression) while being a curmudgeon and racist, it just seems more like the sniper is fleeing a horror movie monster, though none of the way it's actually shot or presented with the score back up that reading.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Eggnogium posted:

On my phone so can't find a source but I've read that several of the crashes in the final cut actually were unintentional.
Reading the wiki page now, this is 100% accurate.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Well, wouldn't you say the ending does?
I mean, if Popeye is a shithead racist cop who in the end shoots an ally and allows Alain Charnier to go free, that's all well and good. But the other side isn't all sexy mobsters either, it's bumbling small-timers and foppish Gerard Depardieu analogues. So if the cops are lovely people, and the crooks are lovely people, then who are we supposed to root for?

And lol gently caress THAT STUPID ENDING.
-Popeye runs around a corner out of the scene
-Single gunshot
-Animal House-level codas for each character
-MUSIC
AND SCORE
BY DON ELLIS

:wtc:

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005



OK, congratulations you made a nihilistic film where everyone's terrible always. Oscars for everyone, I guess?

Like, The Godfather presents Michael as the good guy at the beginning and Vito as the bad guy, and then slowly shows the transition and you learn that things are not Schwartzenegger black-and-white hero vs. mooks, cool, I'm with it. But this is just bleak and awful and then abrupt and pointless. Lars von Trier would be proud.

Exorcist had a similar stupid, abrupt ending so I guess :xcom: only with William Friedkin's face?

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


GimpChimp posted:

I don't know what sort of reputation French Connection carried for you before you watched it
The only thing I knew going in was that it had "omg the best car chase of all time" and while I was cool with finding out it would be a cerebral thriller that happened to have a car chase in it, it still was just a massive failure as both an action and a thriller movie, with the exception of the cat-and-mouse foot chase culminating with Doyle and Charmien dodging each other on the street and subway car.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Magic Hate Ball posted:

Are you a dumb person because you sound like a dumb person
I was just trying to understand why a bad dumb chase scene had achieved near-mythic status and universal praise when it was :mediocre: at best, especially viewed through the lens of a movie designed to showcase how lovely everyone was. I guess my answer is "retroactive hagiography" so thanks Magic Hate Ball for answering my question.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Egbert Souse posted:

The French Connection's car chase is great, but decades of movies trying to one up it have diluted the impact. I'd imagine audiences in 1971 were blown away by it since it was like nothing they've seen before.
Are you saying audiences had never seen a chase sequence before? Because ignoring the entirety of the 50s and westerns/stagecoach robberies, there is a chase sequence in the old testament.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Super Ninja Fish posted:

I have a blind sister that wants me to take her to the movies for her birthday. Is there anything good out right now that she might like? She's 24 and likes any good movie that she can follow/understand.

I've heard that Mad Max has about 3 minutes of dialogue. So I guess that would not be a good choice.

I saw that in additional to closed captioning, they also were showing Mad Max at my local theater (a Regal) in something that I am remembering as like a "Describe-surround" where you could get a headset and I guess someone would describe the events on the screen for you? Is that something anyone has tried? How would that even work?

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


lizardman posted:

I've never understood who the identity of the fisherman was in I Know What You Did Last Summer. Granted, while I'm pretty sure I've seen the whole movie, I've had to cobble it together from various random watchings on TV, I've never just sat down and watched the whole thing through.

IIRC (hint: I do not recall correctly), the guy they hit ended up being the fisherman's son, and he came after the kids as revenge for killing his boy.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Also fun fact: If you, like me, were on your school's Geography Bee team, the plot of I Still Know What You Did Last Summer is hilariously, absurdly extra-bad. I would rather watch Lifeboat as a fluent German speaker.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


lizardman posted:

^If you're talking about how Brandy wins a radio contest even though she got the answer to the question wrong - and how it turns out to be a plot point later that "Gasp! Rio De Janero is NOT the capital of Brazil! This whole trip has been a setup from the get-go!" Oh, yes, I remember.

Now, I'd be willing to give the writers the benefit of the doubt that the wrong answer was meant to be foreshadowing for those who know their geography (personally I remember thinking, 'I thought it was Brasilia. Odd...') and not that they figured every audience member would be surprised at the SHOCKING truth.... but these two movies have not been convincing me to afford them that leniency.

Was there any explanation at all for how the stalker managed to manipulate the radio DJ to go along with the bogus contest, or how he knew Brandy and Jennifer Love Hewitt would be listening at that moment, and that they would be interested enough to call and enter the contest, and how he made sure that their call would be the one that would be answered?

IIRC (and again, it's been years, I probably do not recall correctly), they called the girls, with like, "you've randomly been selected. Answer now!" so the whole thing was fake.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Skwirl posted:

For the record I don't think Yahoo Serious was a Nazi apologist, and apologies to him if anyone took that meaning away from my previous post. I'm also not quite clear on how that happened.
this has been a wild page to return to CD on.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Just for fun, throw in one movie that has no allegorical aspects and just let the students puzzle it out. Suggestion: Josie and the Pussycats

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Snak posted:

Well at least you didn't put Paul W.S. Anderson.

I unironically love PWS Anderson, and not just for Event Horizon. I think Mortal Kombat is great, way more fun than it has any right to be, and Death Race is an underappreciated member of the new action canon that features so much more talent than anyone could imagine being in a movie titled "Death Race"

That he made the Resident Evil movies, which are of widely-varying quality, between all of this is just icing.

Oh, and he also made the almost-perfect Soldier with Kurt Russell

Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Sep 15, 2015

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Spiritus Nox posted:

I'm sure I've seen it in other works I can't place right this second.
hi

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


There are so few roles for Indians and other asians Aziz Ansari had to cast his own parents to play his parents. They aren't even actors, they were just the only brown people over 30 he could find.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Dr Monkeysee posted:

It's amazing The Black Hole even exists. What a weird time for Disney.

When I heard they were looking at remaking it, and trying to find a new bad guy, I said out loud "Wait a minute, Max Von Sydow isn't dead, just get him again. He already knows all the lines!"

Then I realized it was Max Schnell and felt awful.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


What happened to Brendan Fraser? He was the king of comedy-actioners, anchored by the Mummy trilogy, and he's a fine physical comedian. Then the third Mummy wrapped and it was like, "Welp, no more jobs for you!" and he's been in bit parts in small pics and doing voice work since then.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Vulpes posted:

Yeah, it always confuses me when people ask 'what happened to [person] who made a shitload of money acting and then stopped acting?'. A lot of people don't keep working once they're set for life, actors included.

Someone once asked Warren Buffet "How much money is enough?", to which he smiled and replied "Just a little bit more..."

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


atrus50 posted:

what are some good spy/operative movies? Ive been on a kick of them lately, I really liked the guy richie guy from UNCLE and the first hour of the Good Shepard

Sneakers

Spy Game

3 days of the condor

Day of the Jackal (NOT The Jackal, but do YouTube up Jack Black getting his arm blown off in that)

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Enos Cabell posted:

There really hasn't been a bad Mission Impossible movie.

The first one kinda makes no sense at the end, but yeah.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


ALFbrot posted:

D-Box seats have only one use, and that is going to see Fast and Furious movies

I saw one of the Resident Evils in D-Box. They're a gimmick, and if you're gonna partake in a gimmick, no half-measures. Trashy genre sequels all the way.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Hockles posted:

It may be the MI movies too, but it is definitely all but one of the Die Hard movies.
Specifically, it's Live Free or Die Hard (5, the lovely father/son one). Every single other Die Hard, including the first one, is a repurposed spec script for something else.

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Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Timby posted:

I think that's A Good Day to Die Hard. Live Free or Die Hard was the one with Justin Long and Timothy Olyphant.

OMG you are100% correct and Die Hard sequels are the worst

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