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UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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oceanside posted:

I'm going to be extremely vague here, because I'm not looking for anything specific within this criteria. I considered making a new thread since it's such a lot to cover (have there been previous ones?) but I'm looking for your guys recommendations of modern European films. This is kind of a two-tier request.

I've been very interested in French films made since 2000 (A Prophet, Cache, Mesrine: Part 1 - Death Instinct) and I've seen a few others from Germany, The Netherlands and Sweden. I'm looking for films in the action, drama, thriller or crime genres. Anything you think is worth checking out.

You might have seen some of these, but here's some European films I enjoyed over the past few years (including UK films, but they have more in common with current European trends than American output).

The Lives Of Others (2006, Germany) - Affecting Cold War-era tale of a ruthlessly loyal Stasi agent, wiretapper and interrogator Gerd Wiesler (the late Ulrich Mühe) who is tasked with digging up dirt on an East German playwright, Georg Dreyman; a job actually issued by a cynical government minister who has designs on Dreyman's actress lover. Wiesler's investigations into the supposed subversives only uncover his targets' passion for art, love, and humanistic ideals, through which he begins living vicariously, even as pressure mounts to produce implicating evidence.

Gomorra (2008, Italy) - Based on Roberto Saviano's written expose of the Camorra, the urban, Neapolitan equivalent of the Mafia. Rather than telling one particular narrative, it's an extremely stark and naturalistic presentation of how the lives of various characters intersect with the sheer scope and scale of violence, corruption and influence the Camorra carries over modern-day Naples.

The Consequences Of Love (2004, Italy) - From the talented director Paolo Sorrentino, it's a highly stylised story of an Italian businessman (played by the brilliant Toni Servillo) living an impeccably reserved life in a Swiss hotel through his somewhat shady business connections, until a series of intrusive personal and professional encounters begin to unravel him emotionally.

Il Divo: The Spectacular Life Of Giulio Andreotti (2008, Italy) - Sorrentino's next film, a character study of multi-term Italian prime minister Giulio Andreotti (Servillo again). Although he's little-known outside of Italy, as a political legend Andreotti is a match for Henry Kissinger or Margaret Thatcher; a centre-rightist respected as a witty and unflappable Cold War warrior in some quarters, loathed as a sinister, cruel grotesque in others, actually liked as a person by far fewer. The film deals primarily with the early 90s when Andreotti's efforts to win the Presidency are poorly timed to coincide with a titanic public and judicial backlash against collusion between Italian officials and the Mafia, aka. the Mani Pulite or "clean hands" era, which threaten to tie him to some extremely serious crimes of the past. Sorrentino has a lot of darkly comic fun with this story but I'd still recommend familiarising yourself with the historical context beforehand, as it's really aimed at Italian audiences.

Hunger (2008, UK) - Directorial debut of Steve McQueen (the Afro-British artist, obviously) which follows the 80s-era resistance efforts of Republican paramilitaries held in the notorious Maze prison of Northern Ireland, which was home to a perpetual and brutal standoff between guards and uncooperative inmates. The film is centred around Bobby Sands (Michael Fassbender), the IRA prisoner who escalated protests for political recognition into a coordinated hunger strike and became a martyr to Irish republicans. McQueen is obviously fascinated with the imagery of the protests but also sketches in some of the larger context, best of all in an extended one-take debate between Sands and his priest over the morality, intent and consequences of the strike they both expect to claim his life.

Bronson (2008, UK) - Actually from a Danish director, Nicholas Winding Refn. Bizarre tale of another notorious inmate of the British prison system, Michael Peterson aka. "Charles Bronson" (an absurdly ripped Tom Hardy), a convicted petty criminal who was sentenced to 7 years and ended up with a life sentence, most of which he has spent in solitary confinement. Here a semi-fictionalised Bronson narrates his own story and contemplates his twin interests in art and acts of random, spontaneous physical violence, which unfortunately for the frustrated prison authorities he doesn't really view as competing avenues for self-development. Although this film takes most of its visual cues from A Clockwork Orange you can't expect anything quite as satisfying here, but this is an entertaining production that highlights a uniquely inexplicable case.

Other stuff: Mesrine obviously has a slightly more bloated Part 2 (and a slightly more bloated Jacques Mesrine) that follows how Mesrine deals with his Public Enemy Number One status, but I expect you're aware of it. I can't actually recommend The Baader-Meinhof Complex very much as I found it the structure and pacing completely broke down by the second half. Cult Swedish vampire movie Let The Right One In has been recommended strongly to me and I even own it but to my shame I haven't actually watched it yet. If I do soon I will doubtlessly edit it in.

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UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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CheckedNoMate posted:

Hey, can anyone recommend me a crime film in which the protagonist has to balance 'the job' with family, and the emphasis is on this clash of worlds? Something like The Sopranos, really.

Hmm, I'm not familiar with any film that managed to do quite what The Sopranos did, mainly because films don't lend themselves enough time to have the protagonist's families factor in much. I do have a couple of rough suggestions though: there's the very twisted A History Of Violence, from David Cronenberg, where a small-town husband and father (played by the brilliant Viggo Mortensen) is targeted by old mob associates from his former life. Prizzi's Honor is a good dark comedy starring Jack Nicholson and Angelica Huston about a veteran mafioso trying to settle down. Mean Streets, Scorsese's first film of acclaim, has Harvey Keitel as an aspiring mafioso who is trying to balance his life between his mobbed-up uncle, his immature small-time hoodlum friends (most notably Robert DeNiro, in his breakout role), his girlfriend and his Catholic faith. I would argue all of those have the clash of worlds between the demands of criminal life and more familiar, domestic relationships at the forefront of the narrative.

There's also, to run through the obvious, nearly every Michael Mann film, but for all the time he spends with criminals' significant others I don't feel his films place them anywhere beyond the sidelines of the plot in terms of importance or narrative drive.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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The Mash posted:

A high school/college age drama with some comedy would be great, although other things could work too. We've both watched Mean Girls as well, so that's out too.

Ghost World?

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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escape artist posted:

This AMC marathon has got me in the mood for mob movies.


I am a huge fan of:
Godfather I and II
Goodfellas
Casino
Carlito's Way
Once Upon A Time In America
Mean Streets
Untouchables
Donnie Brasco
A Bronx Tale


Also love Boardwalk Empire and The Sopranos, of course.

I recently saw "Mad Dog and Glory", which was pretty disappointing considering the two lead actors are De Niro and Bill Murray.

Any recommendations?

The Departed: Scorsese having some fun with his gangster-film mode, if you haven't seen it already. Not his most artistically credible work, but definitely one of the most entertaining.

City of God: absolutely fantastic Brazilian film about the descent of Rio de Janeiro's dirt-poor favelas into drug baron warzones, seen through a generation of young slum kids from the 1960s to 70s, many of whom become notorious outlaws. I realise the prospect of subtitles turn some people off but this is a great production that matches brutal realism in the characters and plot with imaginative, energetic direction and soundtracking.

Animal Kingdom: understated, off-key Australian film inspired by real events in Melbourne gang history, about a teenage boy taken under the wing of his extended family, who also happen to be an unnervingly tight-knit clan of bankrobbers whom the police are hellbent on annihilating.

Miller's Crossing is the Coen brothers' charming, irreverent take on the gangster genre with Gabriel Byrne as a relentlessly wiseass Irish mob consigliere who manipulates the hell out of a rapidly escalating gang war to his own ends.

Mesrine, Parts 1 & 2: French double bill biopic with Vincent Cassel as Jacques Mesrine, a charismatic, stunningly arrogant outlaw whose exploits in bank robbing, prison-breaking, police-taunting, and all-around badassery across two continents put Dillinger to shame.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Starshark posted:

I'm in the mood for a botched-heist movie. Good examples are Reservoir Dogs and Dog Day Afternoon, but can include early noir like White Heat (it counts because an undercover cop wrecks their final heist of the film, but it isn't a prime example of one). Does anyone know of any more I could catch?

I feel like these almost count as spoilers, but there's Before The Devil Knows You're Dead, Kubrick's early noir The Killing, the underrated Blue Collar (as long as longer-term fallout from a heist counts), and this is slightly more of a stretch but the three-part miniseries/6 hour film Carlos, about the career of international guerilla/terrorist Ilyich "Carlos" Ramirez ("Carlos The Jackal" to the media), gives over almost the entire pivotal second half to his taking the entire 1975 OPEC conference hostage, without really being prepared for the consequences. It's absurdly tense, a true story and conducted largely in English.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Criminal Minded posted:

Who's got LA crime films for me? Drive has me in the mood. I'm familiar with Mann and Tarantino's stuff, The Driver, To Live and Die in LA, the Terminator movies, Training Day, Chinatown, L.A. Confidential...I know I need to see Night Moves, but what else?

I apologise for how scattershot this is but I expect you've seen a few of them so: Sunset Boulevard, Point Blank, The Long Goodbye, The Killing Of A Chinese Bookie (1978 edit is better; RIP Ben Gazzara, incidentally), Barton Fink, The Player, Menace II Society, Get Shorty, Lost Highway, Boogie Nights, The Big Lebowski, The Limey.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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bowser posted:

I absolutely loved Attack the Block and Four Lions. Any recommendations for similar movies?

EDIT: Also, I know this isn't really the place to post about it, but it's pretty pathetic that most of the criticism I'm seeing online for Attack the Block is something along the lines of 'The characters are unredeemable thugs!' :rolleyes: So, gently caress those people. What are some other movies about the underclass/so called unredeemable protagonists.

It's ultimately not so much a dark comedy as a drama with a bunch of jokes in, but La Haine is a great example of a sympathetic but unapologetically frank depiction of the Parisian underclass/ethnic minorities, if you can stand subtitles (and you ought to for a film like La Haine, it's pretty watchable). This Is England and Do The Right Thing would also qualify if dramas are okay.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Winter's Bone is a great Ozarks-set film about a teenage girl who has to track down her estranged meth-cook father when it turns out he was arrested, and put the family home up for bail bond before disappearing. I would also recommend White Lightnin' (2009) which is actually a fictionalised/grotesquely warped version of the life of Jesco White (yes, from TWWWWV, although you'll spot some large departures from reality later on).

EDIT: There's also Coal Miner's Daughter which is pretty well acclaimed but not something I've watched personally.

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UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Zhaan posted:

Probably a long shot, but does anyone know any non-English films about funeral directors/morticians? Hell, it could even be a gravedigger or a medical examiner if we're going for vaguely related. I just rewatched Departures for the fourth or fifth time and while it's one of my favorite films, I'd like to see more in the same vein.

I've seen pretty much everything related on the subject in English (television and film), but recs for those are welcome too if you know something obscure.

This is the weirdest request I have responded to but here goes. Post Mortem (2010) is a great low-key Chilean film where the main character is an assistant at a morgue during the Pinochet military coup. The guy is not personally a mortician, he is just supposed to take autopsy notes, but, uh, corpse examination is fairly pivotal if not the total focus of it. If that helps.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Trier posted:

I realize this is probably far too broad, and I apologize in advance for that, but I'm pining for some modern British movies after having watched Attack The Block.

Anything set in post-2000 Britain that isn't in the countryside goes. Bonus points if it's about crime or youth culture, but not a must.

vvvv TV shows are also good, Thanks.

Already a lot of the best stuff has been suggested but might I add, re. crime films: Sexy Beast, Dead Man's Shoes, Sweet Sixteen, Red Road, Layer Cake, Dirty Pretty Things, Kill List. Naked and Neds don't quite fit your setting timeframe but personally I think they're both too good to not mention and are modern in sensibility. Also if you want like smart grounded laugh-track-free type British comedy then Peep Show and The Thick Of It are two of the better contemporary efforts.

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UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Ego-bot posted:

I watched Before the Devil Kows you're Dead last night. I was wondering if there's a term for a movie where there's some type of illegal plan or heist that ends up negatively effecting nearly the whole cast. I guess you could call it a decontruction of the heist genre.

I was wondering if anyone has any more examples of this. I've seen:

Gone Baby Gone
A Simple Plan
The Killing


Man I think pretty much every other Coen Brothers film would qualify, but mostly No Country For Old Men, Blood Simple, and The Man Who Wasn't There. Also Reservoir Dogs but I imagine you've seen it. There's also Dog Day Afternoon and The General (1998 John Boorman film about a notorious Irish professional criminal / thief who had actually robbed Boorman himself), maybe not quite what you're looking for but they both involve the actions of the protagonists taking their toll on themselves, their friends and loved ones, and interestingly to me at least, the cops assigned to take them down who aren't looking for a bloody resolution to things.

EDIT: I should also mention Blue Collar, which is from Paul Schrader, of writing Taxi Driver fame.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Jan 15, 2013

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Red Garland posted:

I'm looking for films like Taxi Driver. Not the ones that are just familiar to it in style or topic, but ones that are about loneliness and capture this feeling of utter alienation and pointlessness as well as Taxi Driver does.

Taxi Driver is a high bar, but I can suggest "Paris, Texas", "Naked", "The Conversation", "The Lives of Others", "Martha Marcy May Marlene", "The Consequences of Love" and "Save the Tiger".

These are more contemporary choices, I'm fairly sure European New Wave has a wealth of alienation / loneliness-concerned films but I'm not as familiar with them as I should be (yet).

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Samuel Clemens posted:

This is a bit of an odd request, but rewatching Once Upon a Time in the West made me realize that it and True Grit are the only Westerns I know of which feature interesting female characters. Most women in Westerns seem to be love interests or damsels in distress, if they are present at all. So I was wondering if anyone could recommend me some Westerns with a more nuanced portrayal of women.

McCabe & Mrs Miller, and Deadwood if you're up for a TV series (and haven't seen it).

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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King of New York and Bad Lieutenant (original, obviously) would be obvious choices for that period, and After Hours if you're willing to branch out into (dark) comedy.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Oliver Reed posted:

What are your favorite movies that deal with revenge?

As far as more obvious choices go, I've seen Oldboy (and the others in the 'Vengeance trilogy'), Get Carter, Gladiator and enough of the rape & revenge subgenre for a lifetime or three. What else?

Are any adaptations of The Count of Monte Cristo worth a drat?

Point Blank, Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada, Shotgun Stories, The Limey, La Haine, and the new release Blue Ruin is very much worth a look.

I'm assuming basically everyone has seen Memento by now.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Oliver Reed posted:

Some nice looking stuff here. The Limey is actually worth a watch? I remember reading/hearing really bad stuff about it. Not that it matters much, just sorta surprised to see its name pop up.

It's flawed but refreshingly ambitious, Terence Stamp is great, and the critical response was largely positive. I don't think you'll regret seeing it, especially if you liked Get Carter which it seemed to me to both take inspiration from and respond to.

As an aside, if you take to it: it's got a DVD commentary that's actually worth listening to, as the film's writer Lem Dobbs tears into Soderbergh (who's also there to defend himself) for all the changes he made to the script, which is a seemingly unique exchange in itself.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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UnknownMercenary posted:

I liked all those parts of it but mainly the last one.

2001, Solaris, and David Cronenberg in general. Also maybe Take Shelter, Splice, Martha Marcy May Marlene, and some of the darker, stranger Jim Jarmusch stuff like Dead Man or Only Lovers Left Alive, or perhaps even Herzog along the lines of Aguirre. I guess I'm thinking more dark, introspective outsider-perspective journeys with similar themes, so I apologise if you're looking for more directly comparable films.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Gozinbulx posted:

Thank you sir!

From what I've seen that is a solid list although regarding Long Good Friday-mould stuff I would also recommend Performance and the original Get Carter. And very much emphasise The Hit, as how that doesn't even have a release here in the UK is absurd.

For more recent stuff I'd recommend The General (Irish, but director John "Deliverance" Boorman is British), which is great, and Gangster No. 1, which is at least interesting.

Also be aware that Guy Ritchie's success spawned a slew of knockoff trash British gangster stuff, much of it starring Danny Dyer. Avoid the hell out of them. Good British gangster films don't take themselves too seriously.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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CloseFriend posted:

I've seen Two-Lane Blacktop, Easy Rider, Vanishing Point, Electra Glide in Blue, and Five Easy Pieces, and I still have a craving for more late 60s/early 70s road movies (or at least movies where the open road or traveling are prominent motifs). Are there any others I'm missing here?

Scarecrow, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia, The Last Detail, Badlands, um, Duel? I also hear Wanda talked up as an underrated road movie but it's not one I've seen yet personally.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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TrixRabbi posted:

Alright, it's getting to the end of the year, so I've got to up my 2014 viewing. Here's what I've seen, what's the best stuff I'm missing from this year?



On the List: Whiplash, Dear White People, Interstellar, Venus in Fur, The Double

I will say Blue Ruin and The Rover are both definitely worth seeing.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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bowser posted:

Looking for movies about the British lower class. For example, Attack the Block or Fish Tank are two great, vastly different movies about characters in the council estates in Britain. I'm not looking for any Guy Ritchie-esque movies.

Red Road is another good film from Andrea Arnold, who directed Fish Tank. The biggest name in British working-class drama films today, including for Arnold, is probably Ken Loach - I'd recommend My Name Is Joe as a starting point and see what you think. I'd also recommend Naked and Secrets & Lies from the great Mike Leigh for drama; Mona Lisa, Get Carter and Neds for crime films that far outdo Guy Ritchie for both verve and authenticity; and Four Lions from Chris Morris for comedy.

There's also Billy Liar and Kes (Loach again) for 1960s British New Wave stuff which pretty much kicked off the trend for realistic depictions of the British working class, although I don't know that era nearly as well as I should.

^^^ The General is brilliant, I'm just ethically obligated to note it is Irish, from an English director. I did already recommend it in relation to British crime dramas in this very thread, and the council estate is a big feature, so obviously I second seeing it. Intermission as well, maybe, for working-class Irish comedy, because otherwise you're travelling a largely bleak path here.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Kvlt! posted:

Anybody have any good gritty crime dramas that are more small "hood" crime than like mafia gangsters/organized crime? Think movies like Out of the Furnace, Killing them Softly or The Place Beyond the Pines

Going off that list I am sure you would be into Animal Kingdom. I'd also suggest the Pusher trilogy, Sexy Beast, and La Haine for more modern European efforts, and Get Carter, Blue Collar, The Killing of a Chinese Bookie ('78 cut) and The Friends of Eddie Coyle for classic 70s-era - they're all set in scuzzy low-level criminal underworlds featuring chain-reaction type plots, which I am all about. Eddie Coyle is even from the same author as Cogan's Trade, the source material for Killing Them Softly.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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second-hand smegma posted:

The Killing of a Chinese Bookie is so loving good. Watch any version. Watch all versions.

Yeah, I do have to agree. I still say the 78 cut for starters, if only because in the 76 version the extended club performances scenes were a loving trial, and I didn't think that would be possible to say of a stage show presented by a little fey squat dude in a top hat called Mr. Sophistication. But there's a number of great scenes lost from the original and in any case it's fun and cool to be able to compare the edits.

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Jul 19, 2006

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Illinois Smith posted:

After watching Calvary it dawned on me that I really dig Brendan Gleeson in leading roles, are there any others I should check out besides that one, In Bruges and The Guard? Is the one where he plays Churchill any good?

I've ended up mentioning it a bunch of times in this thread, but definitely check out The General, directed by John "Deliverance" Boorman. It's a great film, and a solid opportunity for Gleeson to flex his acting range.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Mimir posted:

I'm looking for movies about journeys by small groups or individuals across an unforgiving wilderness/desert/forest, where nature, rather than man, is the main enemy. Westerns, fantasy, or modern.

Van Diemen's Land

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Fonzarelli posted:

Anybody know any cool mysteries similar to Chinatown?

If you haven't seen it, The Conversation came out in 1974, was directed by Francis Ford Coppola, and stars Gene Hackman as an introverted surveillance expert who's troubled by the potential fallout of a meeting he's hired to record for a powerful businessman. Also, it's great, and should make for an interesting comparison / contrast to Chinatown (which came out the same year).

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Chas McGill posted:

Need more films like the Station Agent, eg: mundane but touching. Something in a fairly static location featuring likable characters. I've seen Baghdad Cafe.

Big Night, Junebug and Trees Lounge come to mind.

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Jul 19, 2006

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Dopilsya posted:

I was watching Stretch on the US netflix a few weeks back and while it wasn't a great movie, it did make me want to see something that follows a similar theme. I guess I'm trying to find movies that involve the main character finding out about secret/underground/weird locations or organisations in their city; sort of the "seedy underbelly". Bonus points if they have to travel to multiple locations. Is this a thing in noir films, maybe? I'm not sure I've ever seen a noir film.

Definitely seconding Eyes Wide Shut and Blue Velvet. I would also think of Rosemary's Baby, Videodrome and Hardcore (1979), maybe Kill List or even Auto Focus. Kill List and Videodrome being towards the cusp of how hosed up a film can get for me in terms of graphic content, because I am not very into that generally.

In terms of noir stuff generally, "seedy underbelly" is pretty fundamental to the genre, but wasn't really possible to depict much actual seediness in the censor-heavy 1940s and 50s, so you're probably looking at neo-noir. Even then you'll kind of have to take the content for what it is, given the Internet has put a lot of distance between what was historically considered shocking and now, but if you're up for good neo-noir stuff that has seedy-underbelly woven right in there (albeit not the sole driving force), I would think LA Confidential, Chinatown, Get Carter (1972).

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Jul 19, 2006

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Kvlt! posted:

Can anyone recommend some revenge movies set in the South? Kind of along the themes of Blue Ruin or (even though it's not revenge per say) the show Justified?

Shotgun Stories is a definite, things that take a revenge turn I would think Sling Blade and White Lightnin', if we're counting protagonists as revenge victims then Cape Fear (ideally the original from '61, but do as you will) and Southern Comfort, and if general Southern Gothic score-settling counts then Deliverance, Joe (2013), and Winter's Bone. Deliverance and Southern Comfort are more redneck-panic type films but that's not unrelated thematically what with the spiral of violence and all.

regulargonzalez posted:

Examples of movies with the plot device of, there's a spy or undercover cop and only his direct supervisor knows he's actually one of the good guys, and the supervisor gets killed?

Is this that much of a thing? Obviously there's The Departed and I think the same plot point was present in the original Infernal Affairs, but maybe those are what you started with.

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Jul 19, 2006

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You guys. I'm interested in seeing more urban post-WWII dramas. Preferably noir or social realist stuff, e.g. The Third Man, Stray Dog, Phoenix, maybe something akin to Bicycle Thieves if you think it's worth seeing, but the more evident the direct aftermath of war is, the better.

Alternatively if anyone knows anything good that takes place during WWII, but centred on citydwellers trying to go about their lives under the effects of wartime, I'd be into that. I've read some 40's NYC/LA-set things that were interesting, when the US still had to presume there was a threat of Axis attack, but I don't know what there is on film about that.

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TychoCelchuuu posted:

A Foreign Affair, The Stranger.


HP Hovercraft posted:

Big time seconding The Best Years of Our Lives. Watch Rossellini's WWII trilogy: Rome, Open City, Paisan, and Germany, Year Zero. A lotta great Japanese movies fit the bill such as Pigs and Battleships and Gate of Flesh.


morestuff posted:

The Best Years of Our Lives, if you haven't seen it.

These all look very good and on point and I haven't seen any of them. Thanks folks.

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fishtobaskets posted:

Can you guys think of some other movies that have scenes like the drug deal in Boogie Nights? Gradually escalating the tension to the point where it's almost unbearably agonizing? The pub scene in Inglorious Basterds is another good example (and the opening scene, for that matter) but I'm hard-pressed to think of any other great ones. I love it when a movie can pull that off and make you feel the same pressure as the characters.

If I'm focusing on scenes that have you strongly identify with characters who are very liable to gently caress up in dangerous situations, A Prophet, Killing of a Chinese Bookie and McCabe & Mrs Miller are some of my favourite films featuring those, as well as Dog Day Afternoon which is arguably a whole film of that, but especially the climax. Blue Ruin and (already mentioned) Killing Them Softly are also good recent examples. Maybe also the joyride sequence from Blue Velvet which I suspect had some influence on the Boogie Nights thing and its more bizarre touches.

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fishtobaskets posted:

I'm looking for suggestions for lesser known gems from the New Hollywood era of 70s auteurs. I've seen all of Kubrick, Scorcese, and Coppola. I'm looking for recommendations (bonus points if it's streaming) from guys like Hal Ashby, Michael Cimino, William Friedkin, John Milius, and Sam Peckinpah. It doesn't specifically have to be those guys but I think they give a good gestalt of what I'm after.

Hopefully these aren't overly obvious, but I can strongly advocate for Arthur Penn's Bonnie and Clyde; Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch, The Getaway, and Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia; Alan J. Pakula's "paranoia trilogy" (Klute, The Parallax View, All The President's Men); Terrence Malick's Badlands and Days Of Heaven; Robert Altman's McCabe & Mrs. Miller, The Long Goodbye, Nashville and Three Women; Sidney Lumet's Dog Day Afternoon and Network; George Romero's Night Of The Living Dead, Dawn Of The Dead, and Martin; Paul Schrader's Blue Collar; Hal Ashby's The Last Detail; and John Cassavete's The Killing Of A Chinese Bookie. Also if Europeans may crash the party then Milos Forman's One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, John Scheslinger's Midnight Cowboy, Roman Polanski's Rosemary's Baby and Chinatown, and John Boorman's Point Blank and Deliverance.

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Oliver Reed posted:

Not the most straight-forward request but I'm looking for movies featuring veteran actors as sort of mentors/guides to younger talent. Examples would be:

Robert Shaw in Jaws as a veteran fisherman working with Roy Scheider and Richard Dreyfuss
Sean Connery in The Untouchables as a veteran cop who helps Kevin Costner
Alec Guinness as a mentor to Mark Hamill in A New Hope

Those are the best examples I can think of; essentially great actors past their prime 'coaching' young stars.

These are what comes to mind so I hope they fit what you are looking for:

Accidental mentordoms (i.e. dramas with a generous dose of comedy to them): Gene Hackman and Al Pacino in Scarecrow, Jeff Bridges and Hailee Steinfeld in True Grit, Jack Nicholson and Randy Quaid in The Last Detail, Jerry Lewis and Robert DeNiro in The King of Comedy, Albert Finney and Gabriel Byrne in Miller's Crossing

Comedies: Harry Dean Stanton and Emilio Estevez in Repo Man, virtually every Wes Anderson film but especially Rushmore and The Grand Budapest Hotel, Martin Landau and Johnny Depp in Ed Wood

Dramas and / or outright dysfunctional mentordoms: Brad Pitt and Casey Affleck in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (spoilers!!!), JK Simmons and Miles Teller in Whiplash, Paul Newman and Brandon de Wilde in Hud, Paul Newman and Tom Cruise in The Color of Money, , Sean Connery and Christian Slater in The Name of the Rose, a lot of latter day Clint Eastwood films but especially Gran Torino, Jean Reno and Natalie Portman in Leon, probably most PT Anderson films but especially Hard Eight (aka Sydney) and The Master

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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feedmyleg posted:

Just watched Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy twice in a day. What are some other great films have that perfect stuffy British 1960s look and feel? Bonus for tension and/or spycraft.

Going to watch the Alec Guinness Smiley TV minis next, which I'd imagine contain a lot of the same look and feel. Albiet likely a much slower burn.

The Spy Who Came In From The Cold (another Le Carre adaptation) and The Ipcress File tick all your boxes I think. Maybe something like If... or The Servant if you're looking to branch out beyond espionage into just general depictions of uptight Englishmen abusing one another in a grubby and austere postwar Britain.

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Jul 19, 2006

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Stealth Tiger posted:

What are some other movies that follow a character over a longer period of time, like Moonlight or Place Beyond the Pines?

Once Upon A Time In America, The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, Jules et Jim, Carlos (I'd recommend the miniseries but the film works too), City of God, and I guess to compulsively get some super loving obvious ones out of the way, Citizen Kane, Goodfellas, The Aviator, There Will Be Blood.

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Jul 19, 2006

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oceanside posted:

I'm looking for "crime", action or mystery films which have the same tone as recent indie films like Blue Ruin, Mud and I Don't Feel at Home in This World Anymore. I really enjoyed the understated nature of them--not quite sure how else to describe it. I'm hoping someone who has seen either one or more of these films has similar thoughts and can help me connect the dots to other similar films. Not too worried whether they're indie or mainstream, but I think this aesthetic and script style tend to end up being made independently. Look forward to hearing thoughts!

US: Fargo, Martha Marcy May Marlene, The Place Beyond The Pines, Killing Them Softly, Before The Devil Knows You're Dead.

International (I hope you're open to these): Animal Kingdom, Gomorra, the Pusher trilogy, Man Bites Dog, A Prophet, Carlos.

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Jul 19, 2006

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morestuff posted:

Would love some murder mystery recs, preferably old-school stuff like the Thin Man movies and noirs.

Some of these I'm stretching the concept of murder mystery into "there is a mystery and at least one murder spicing it up en route", but in roughly descending order of direct relevance I can recommend Murder My Sweet (aka Farewell My Lovely), Witness for the Prosecution, The Big Sleep, The Lady from Shanghai, The Third Man, Woman on the Run, Les Diaboliques, Rear Window. There's also Klute and The Long Goodbye from the 70s neo-noir wave.

double nine posted:

any suggestions for a recent "smart" movie, something in the vein of Tinker Tailor where the viewer is rewarded/required to pay attention, something with a slower pace and great intrigue(s)?

Hopefully I get to throw in anything generally built around intrigue, as long as it's smart, contemplative and from this century: Winter's Bone, The White Ribbon, The Lives of Others, Phoenix, Martha Marcy May Marlene, Elle, Memories of Murder, Brick.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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Kvlt! posted:

What are some more movies like Taxi Driver, Bringing out the Dead, and Bad Lieutenant? Generally looking for movies with themes like the ones in the movies I listed: isolation, loneliness, addiction, people being pushed to the end of their rope, urban alienation, generally gritty, etc.

Midnight Cowboy, Klute, The Killing of a Chinese Bookie, A Short Film About Killing, Light Sleeper, Naked, Leaving Las Vegas, Red Road, Tony Manero, A Touch of Sin, You Were Never Really Here

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UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

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ButtWolf posted:

Hello, I just watched 'Paterson.' I am looking for more great slice-of-life films. Please and thank you.

I would say Trees Lounge, Big Night, Frances Ha, Mistress America, The Straight Story, maybe stuff like Smoke or Short Cuts if you're up for the whole 90s anthology trend? Also for more Jim Jarmusch there's Stranger Than Paradise and Mystery Train as two of my favourites of his, and most/all of Mike Leigh's work, but I'd particularly recommend Naked and Secrets & Lies. Hope that's the kind of stuff you're looking for.

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