mike12345 posted:

What's the radio equivalent to Tagesthemen or Heute Journal? I'm looking for a 30 min recap of the day, but in radio format. I looked at Bayern 2 and Deutschlandfunk, but most of their news shows seem to be like 5 min long.

System Metternich posted:

https://twitter.com/MDRAktuell/status/1239889218127556608?s=20

Hopper posted:

I think it would be every other Friday. 20 workdays/month on average so my layman's maths tells me 2 days less is 10%. Not sure that's absolutely correct what with taxation and Sozialabgaben but that's the ballpark I guess. It's not great but at least I'd get some free days out of it to do stuff I hate doing on weekends.

Tarquinn posted:

Also, my company is implementing 50% Kurzarbeit for at least three months. Totally not looking forward to my worker’s council meeting on Tuesday.

Mithaldu posted:

Heck, i'm almost morbidly curious enough to ask why milk is supposed to be bad now, but i'm sure it'll turn out to be some "if you drink it in 10x the 'in moderation' amount it has some obscure side effects".

Libluini posted:

I'm sure you're trolling with this, but just in case: The kcal in milk come from the fat inside, the kcal in Cola come directly from sugar. Slurping too much Cola will destroy your kidneys eventually. The diabetes it will cause isn't very cool, either.

On another note, Cola Light has 0,2 kcal/100 ml and tastes better*. I suggest drinking that instead.

*After multiple years of drinking that stuff. Normal Cola will taste hilariously bad after not drinking it for a couple years, so beware you can't go back to Sugar Coma, oops my bad I meant to say Sugar Cola.

"The Incidental Economist posted:

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Before going any further, let’s acknowledge where there is consensus. Human infants, like all mammals, depend on milk for sustenance at the beginning of life. Breastfeeding (human milk) is almost always recommended, as well as baby formula until 1 year of age if breastfeeding is not feasible. Most experts also think that children should continue to be breastfed or transition to whole cow’s milk until they’re 2. The fat is believed to aid in brain development.

It’s at that point that things get tricky.

There’s very little high-quality evidence, and no comparable mammalian example, to argue for the specialness of cow’s milk after this period. Arguments that it’s good for you because it has protein and other vitamins and minerals could be made about many, many other foods (but those foods don’t receive such official recommendations of support).
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The bottom line, as I’ve written before, is that every beverage other than water and breast milk might be treated the way alcohol is for adults — you can have it if you want it, but don’t be under the illusion that you need it.

Libluini posted:

The only thing I couldn't shake is my coffein addiction. Mostly because it's sometimes super-hard to find the special super diet cola without both coffein and sugar. It's maddening! Not as maddening as the headaches every time I find the special stuff and get hit with Entzugserscheinungen, but close.

I'm fairly sure the day I start drinking coffee will be the day my heart just explodes

Ika posted:

But its a mix of "How to lie with statistics" and "How to fail to present data".

Anyone know whether the RKI provide a CSV with the data they use for the dashboard, and where to find it?

Ika posted:

That's the john Hopkins data, not the RKI data (Which accounts for the lag between tests being done and reports arriving).

Zwille posted:

I thought I didn’t have any allergies and then developed a Milbenallergie and a Gräserallergie over the course of a couple years. Symptoms (for the Gräser/Pollen thing) are mild for me: itchy throat, quad- to quintuple sneezes. If you can brave a visit to a doctor they might be able to prescribe you an antiallergic which might help. Maybe there’s over the counter stuff too, but I dunno how good that works. Used to be the good stuff made you drowsy but what I got last year didn’t.

Nektu posted:

Sitting around at home all the time made me completely forget which day it is and I so VERY NEARLY booted up my laptop and went to work today

Einbauschrank posted:

It's a light hearted Schabernack because it's essentially true. I did a calculation in the happy Vorcoronazeit. Edit: I remembered it wrong! The Lehrernetto only comes up to 85k Angestelltenbrutto (which comes to the upper 10% of Angestellte).

To earn 45k netto (adjusted from originally 54k, see Edit above) netto as a verbeamteter Gymnasiallehrer you need to chose the right Bundesland (BaWü, BY, NRW) and not be fired for 10 years until you automatically get a high enough Erfahrungsstufe to earn 4.5k netto a month (when you' be ~37 y/o). If you aren't allergic to the smallest bit of responsibility, like being a Oberstufenleiter, you can get promoted to A15, but these slots rarely open for obvious reasons. For mediocre people without leadership skills or entrepreneurial spirit being a verbeamteter Lehrer at the Gymnasium is the mother lode. Doesn't mean every verbeamteter Lehrer is a lazy gold digger, only that the incentive to attract that kind of personality certainly is there.

Pensionwise a verbeamteter Gymnasiallehrer in the right Bundesland will retire after 40 years with a monthly pension of ~3200€. If you had worked for 45 years and earned 100k right off the bat you'd have earned enough entgeltpunkte to be entitled to 2300-2500€ (depending on the cap for maximale Entgeltpunkte during your working years).

If the glorious revolution ever comes, please reward verbeamtete teachers for sucking dry the working classes (and everybody else) for decades.

Einbauschrank posted:

The job is important. But it's not exactly rocket science, i.e. it's not too difficult to recruit people with the right skill set.

Honj Steak posted:

People who say teaching is easy are the reason for bad teachers. It's a complicated skill that requires a great amount of creativity and adaptability.

Haramstufe Rot posted:

If y'all wanna gently caress yourselves up tonight

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/spiegel-tv-ueber-corona-verschwoerung-wut-unterm-aluhut-a-2a561b5d-0aa9-416a-b795-119a9e4203a7

Ika posted:

Is that a bendy bus, or was it going really fast, or did it push itself back up? I would expect it to be at a larger angle.

Eezee posted:

Since you drive a TTS, you have to get a Mahlkönig

Tarquinn posted:

I know what Ephex means. I pretty much did the same thing last year. I have owned several cars over the years, but they were all simply Gebrauchsgegenstände, with no emotional attachment at all. The new car makes me happy on some level no car did before.

pidan posted:

Zeit telling people not to travel:
https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitgeschehen/2020-05/opportunismus-und-urlaub-klimakrise-kreuzfahrten-soziale-oekologische-folgen-kosten

On one hand, I kind of hate this new trend of phrasing all pandemic related articles as "some TOTAL IDIOTS are DENYING SCIENCE and BEING UNREASONABLE, but if we try to make sense of their deluded bleating we may interpret it as expressing some valid concerns, which they only have because they don't understand the following truth: ..."
On the other hand, if this makes "not traveling far" and "working from home" into markers of high status and good breeding, I guess I don't mind. More people should do that anyway.

My Lovely Horse posted:

Super great for those people, but it seems like it would put all the responsibility of setting up a work area that is conductive to working and conforms to Arbeitsschutzbestimmungen and whatnot on the shoulders of people who already lack the means to do so.

Ika posted:

Isn't it open source? I'm so tempted to check the amount of (non automatically generated) code and seeing whether each LOC cost less than or more than 100 euros. I should charge my boss the same amount!

Hopper posted:

So... my parents for some inexplicable reason are driving to their summer house tommorow.
In...Sweden... Planning to stay until September.

But it is in an area with almost no cases, in a small town with 0 cases and they will not be outside except for shopping etc, you see.

There was nothing I could tell them that would make them reconsider, which is surprising because they have been really good at distancing and masks and isolation, but it seems they are adamant at going.

I even told them if they went, I would need access to all their documents insurance, bank locker, accounts etc. To try and dissuade them. On Friday we had an appointment at the bank where they signed full Vollmachten for me and they gave me a comprehensive list of all their insurances, running contracts etc. on Saturday.

So I stopped worrying and learned to love having access to my inheritance.

I genuinely don't understand how you can be so thorough to cover all eventualities and at the same time so careless.

aphid_licker posted:

I mean sitting at the cabin without going to a cafe or restaurant isn't exactly an amzing Urlaub

pidan posted:

Meat packing workers aren't exactly 20 year old fit people, lots of them seem to be 50+ and/or fat. They also appear to work in what is basically full PPE, so if they got it on the factory floor all hope is lost for our little cloth masks. Apparently there's a good chance they caught it in canteens or housing though.

Enjoy some meat factory vibes in this old Doku:
https://youtu.be/SSKpAxEa0Co

Investigation of a superspreading event preceding the largest meat processing plant-related SARS-Coronavirus 2 outbreak in Germany posted:

We describe a cluster of SARS-CoV-2 transmission in a meat processing plant that originated from a worker who had self-reported previous contact with potentially SARS-CoV-2 infected persons from another meat processing plant. Analyzing housing and commuting parameters along with spatial and climate conditions in the work area, this study provides evidence that transmission occurred over a radius of at least 8 meters around the index case, within a work area where meat is processed at temperatures around 10°C. [...] Physical work and relatively low fresh air exchange rates together with continuous re-circulation of cooled air may have favored the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in the investigated work setting.

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Two days later (Fig. 1B), two MPP-R [this meat processing plant] workers from the early shift (referred to as cases B1 and B2 in the following) reported to the management of having had a brief contact with employees from MPP-D [another meat processing plant that had had 94 out of 279 workers test positive] (D1 and D2 in the following) on d0, both of whom had received positive test results later that day (Fig. 1A). Cases B1 and B2 reported to have no symptoms.

B1 and B2 were tested in the company’s test center three days after the encounter (Fig. 1B). Because the contact with MPP-D workers was not classified as high risk, both continued to work. On the fourth day following the encounter, B1 and B2 received positive test results. [turnaround time of a single day!]

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Indeed, subsequent serial testing by health authorities performed a month after the initial encounter identified more than 1,400 positive cases, constituting the largest outbreak in a German meat processing facility seen thus far.

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Combined, the eight mutations therefore represent a novel sub-branch within the 20C clade that defines the prototypical viral genome signature of the infection cluster (submitted to GISAID, accession number 476705, strain id NRW-MPP-1). Whereas the B1 sequence is an exact prototype representative, we find an additional nucleotide exchange at 100% frequency (C7735T) in B2. The fact that this mutation is absent from the other samples rules out B2 as a possible source of the cluster with near certainty. [...] Taken together, these observations suggest prototype virus transmission by B1 as the common source of infection in the cluster. [so only one of the workers actually acted as a spreader]

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Given the above, we investigated potential transmission routes between the suspected index case B1 and the other employees within the cluster. The universal point of potential contact among all cases was work in the early shift of the beef processing plant. The shift comprises 147 individuals, most of whom work at fixed positions in a conveyor-belt processing line. The processing line occupies an elongated area approximately 32 meters (m) long and 8.5 m wide (see floor plan in supplementary Fig. S1A). Quarters of beef enter at one end of the line (referred to as proximal in the following) and are processed as they move in longitudinal direction across the room, until cuts are finally packaged near the far end of the line (referred to as distal in the following). Eight air conditioning units placed near the ceiling in the proximal half of the room constantly cool the air. Fans project the air in a lateral direction, either directly from frontal openings in the unit or via perforated hoses mounted underneath the ceiling (see schematics in Figs. S1A-C), effectively sectioning the room into zones in which air is perpetually recirculated.

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While data protection regulations do not allow us to indicate the precise position of the suspected index case, we can disclose that the individual occupied a fixed station within the proximal half of the room. Fig. 3A furthermore indicates the position of 86 employees relative to the suspected index case, along with test results and (where available) viral genotypes (see Table S1 for details). These 86 individuals include all employees with fixed work positions in the proximal half of the processing line (n=56), 22 employees with fixed work stations in adjoining areas, and estimated average location of 8 employees who typically move around the room during the shift (marked with an asterisk in Fig. 3A).
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The map in Fig. 3A immediately suggests a spatial relationship between the location of the suspected index case and the SARS-CoV2 positive workers.
[Fig 3A:]

As shown in the distance matrix in Fig. 3B (see also Supplementary Table S2), the probability for spatial overrepresentation of positive cases is highly significant and reaches a maximum (p-val 2.33E-05) within a radius of 8 m (referred to as 8m area hereafter; note that while the 8m maximum reflects statistical significance of overrepresentation, infection rates per se are higher in closer proximity to the index case).
[Fig3B]

In addition to work area locations, we were provided with information on apartments (n=11), bedrooms (n=16) and carpools (n=9) shared among workers from the early shift. In Fig. 3C, we show a statistical overrepresentation analysis of positive cases in shared units (see supplementary material for additional information). The 8m area around the index case is shown for comparison. Positive rates were statistically significant only for a single shared apartment and associated carpool (a1 and c3), and a shared bedroom (r5). The fact that 5 of 7 members in a1/c3, and 2 out of 3 members in r5 have fixed work stations within the 8m area (Supplementary Table S3), however, suggests that high infection rates in these units primarily reflect the number of group members who work in close proximity of the index case, rather than resulting from independent infection chains within the units themselves.
[Fig 3C]

Hence, while some secondary infections may have occurred within apartments, bedrooms or carpools, our collective data strongly suggest that the majority of transmissions occurred within the beef processing facility, with case B1 being at the root of the cluster.

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Discussion
Our results collectively point towards a superspreading event in the MPP-R beef processing plant that originated from a single employee. Our findings suggest that the facilities’ environmental conditions, including low temperature, low air exchange rates, and constant air recircularization, together with relatively close distance between workers and demanding physical work, created an unfavorable mix of factors promoting efficient aerosol transmission of SARS-CoV-2 particles. It is very likely that these or similar factors are also responsible for current worldwide ongoing outbreaks in other meat or fish processing facilities.

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In contrast to work-related exposure, shared apartments, bedrooms, or carpools appear not to have played a major role in the initial outbreak described in this study. Nevertheless, later viral transmission within shared living quarters or work rides very well may have been a confounding factor in context of the second, larger outbreak occurring one month after the first outbreak.

MonikaTSarn posted:

I find this study questionable. How did they not mention at all the substandard living conditions the workers were in, or the cantina video ? Maybe workers on the same shift together were eating together as well, were being transported in to small vans to their homes together ?

Researchers posted:

Positive rates were statistically significant only for a single shared apartment and associated carpool (a1 and c3), and a shared bedroom (r5). The fact that 5 of 7 members in a1/c3, and 2 out of 3 members in r5 have fixed work stations within the 8m area (Supplementary Table S3), however, suggests that high infection rates in these units primarily reflect the number of group members who work in close proximity of the index case, rather than resulting from independent infection chains within the units themselves.

Researchers posted:

Description of housing conditions, work area conditions, and working conditions
Housing conditions: Many of the workers share apartments and those usually commute together to their workplace in vans organized by the company. The company provided us with anonymized information about the housing situation of the workers regarding information on shared apartments, bedrooms and carpools. The largest housing unit encompassed seven workers for the initial outbreak in month 1 in the beef processing plant.
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During breaks, the workers from a shift visit the canteen. Workers do not have fixed seats in the canteen. Supervisory staff does not spend the break times together with the production line workers. The supervisors do not share housing or transport facilities with the production line workers.

Smirr posted:

That's the split by apartment / carpool / etc. group. Look at r5, their one "significant" result. That's a sample size of three. Except there are repeated measurements (which makes everything a lot worse, although with a sample size of three it doesn't matter - it's all noise anyway). And you don't even know what the baseline for each group is, because:

With sample sizes that low, and overlapping multiple comparisons (that they appear to not even have tried to adjust for), p-values are completely, absolutely meaningless. They always are, but in this specific example, they are straight garbage. My advice, take the raw data (which is mostly meaningless because of the data protection issues - you don't know which positive tests occurs twice or more times in which specific groups) and ignore any significance thresholds. The proximity data from Figure 3a is the one thing in this paper I would say is useful (but it's also something we already knew). Figure 3c is (3b too, but that's such horseshit I didn't even try to parse it)

Mithaldu posted:

Well, for the moment this is the wall the USA is driving straight at.

Not having a house.

Wipfmetz posted:

So "37% AK" means "37% of renter households in Alaska are at risk of eviction"?
What's the percentage of renter vs owner households in the US?

Smirr posted:

pidan posted:

So the Corona app needs bluetooth on to work. But it's fine if I turn it on when I go out, and off again when I'm home alone, right? It won't delete my Corona meeting history out of spite?

Drone posted:

For some reason reminds me of flying into London City airport.

The utter terror of landing at LCY, with its tiny runway right on the banks of the Thames, is made up for by its utter convenience as the tiniest, best little airport there ever was.

Einbauschrank posted:

I hope your Malay is not too rusty by then.

Cingulate posted:

Putzhilfe und Schwarzarbeit: irgendwelche Tips, wie man das legal hinbekommt? Kann ich einfach mehr zu zahlen anbieten, damit sie sich ohne Verlust für die sozialversicherungspflichtig einstellen lässt?