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Alwyn posted:I've been looking for a new graphics card for a while now, but haven't had the money until recently, so I finally got more seriously to researching what card I should take. A 780 is more than enough for 1920x1200. A 770 would be fine. Most people here get 760s.
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Alwyn posted:Thanks for the tips, (+ Bude). nVidia doesn't let manufacturers cheap out on their 700 series cards, so they'll all be of good build quality. Look for a quiet one like the MSI TwinFrozr or Asus DirectCU II. Pretty sure Afterburner can be downloaded for free and will work on any card from any manufacturer, nVidia or AMD. Personally I use Asus GPU Tweak for overclocking my HIS Radeon 7850.
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MJBuddy posted:It's a bad idea get your wireless from your mobo, right? Just stick with the intel one in the guide and avoid buying the integrated one? Unless you're using mini-ITX and can't fit a seperate card, then yeah, get the Intel. Your case can impede the wireless signal and slow your poo poo down significantly. For example, I have a USB wireless adaptor. When I plug it into the port on my monitor, I get about 18Mbps. When I plug it into the back of my case, 3 feet away, I get about 3Mbps.
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Hadlock posted:I have two sticks of PC3-12800 (1600MHz) dual Data Rate RAM plugged in to my H87 chipset motherboard (Haswell) The number of sticks doesn't really make a difference nowadays.
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fleur_de_leet posted:Looking to pull the trigger on this in the next couple of days. Looking for maxed out 1080p/60fps. Maybe some streaming. For 60 FPS maxed out you'll probably want a 770 instead of a 760. Also that's an awful lot of money for a Bronze rated PSU and it's more wattage than you need.
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Here's a noodle scratcher. The printing company I work at is moving and we're getting all new computers, printers and scanners next month. The new scanners my boss ordered require a PCI-e slot for some sort of card. The problem is all the computers he just bought are all-in-ones. He hates desktops and really doesn't want to buy any. Are there any external PCI-e boxes that can connect via USB? He wants something like this but for PCI cards instead of hard drives. I tried to explain to him why the demand for such a product would be so small (DACs, USB wireless adapters, the fact that USB is too slow for graphics cards), but he insists they must exist. Do they? As an aside, why the hell would a loving scanner require an i5 and 8GB of RAM? If it needs that kind of horsepower it might be true that it also requires the bandwidth of PCI-e, but thinks whoever wrote the requirements is an idiot. We'll see.
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May 1, 2014 20:42
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Ignoarints posted:Are they really high resolution scanners? Do you know the models? Sir Unimaginative posted:They have those, actually, but only for Thunderbolt ports, and which cost I think it's this. Anyway, he resigned to buying a desktop. I also informed him that i7s are not dual-cores, and that the i5 in his 4 year old laptop is not the exact same chip as the one in my 3 month old desktop. He knows a lot about computers. 
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May 2, 2014 00:24
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NJersey posted:Hello, To add to what other people have said, you're missing a HDD. You'll definitely want more than just 120GB. Think about adding a 1TB WD Red.
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May 8, 2014 03:01
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frunksock posted:I haven't paid any attention to CPUs for the past three years or so. I have an i7-2600K (stock clocked) in my gaming PC. Is it just me, or is there absolutely no point in upgrading it? Has CPU performance just hardly improved at all over the past three years? This seems really weird. http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1199?vs=287 If I change the comparison to my 2600K vs the current goon-recommended 4670, it's even closer, with the 2600K actually doing better on several of the measures: http://anandtech.com/bench/product/837?vs=287 Get a decent aftermarket CPU cooler and overclock that bad boy (if your motherboard supports it). 70FPS on low settings with a 780 isn't right. How much RAM do you have?
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May 19, 2014 10:24
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Kazy posted:What happened to drive RAM prices up over the last two years? A lot of the factories that made RAM converted to making Flash memory for phones and tablets and USB drives instead. Supply went down but demand mostly stayed the same, so prices went up.
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May 23, 2014 01:40
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vanbags posted:Radeon 7770 1GB There's nothing that would hold it back, it's just that a 750Ti isn't a very big step up from a 7770. Not really worth the money. I'd say go for a GTX 760 or R9-280, they're both well under $300 now and they're much bigger upgrades, the 280 especially.
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echinopsis posted:I'm thinking about getting a 4570i5 on a assrock motherboard. I see that getting a That CPU and motherboard are from last year. Intel released new stuff very recently, look for the i5 4590 and an H97 motherboard. Though they might not be available in NZ yet. If they aren't the ones you've chosen are fine. It'll come with a cooler, the one you linked to will keep it at around the same temperature but comes highly recommended for being nearly silent.
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May 24, 2014 03:33
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Your monitor is only 1280x720? That's really low nowadays. If so, a 270x is total overkill. I'd get a 750Ti for like $50 cheaper, it'll still give you good FPS at ultra settings at that resolution. You also probably won't get a good gaming system with an SSD for under $600. You can add that later. Here, this is as close as I could get without cutting any corners too badly: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($118.98 @ SuperBiiz) Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($87.98 @ SuperBiiz) Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Micro Center) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.42 @ Amazon) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg) Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US) Total: $624.33 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-26 16:53 EDT-0400) You have a Windows license, right? It'll be an extra $90 if you don't. Monday_ fucked around with this message at 22:09 on May 26, 2014 |
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Rookoo posted:May I ask what's wrong with corsair CX PSUs? I've been having problems for a while with my PC dying on me when playing games (Which I assume is when it draws the most power) and I've investigated every part apart from the PSU with no luck (Because I assume testing PSUs are kind of a pain in the rear end). They use cheaper capacitors and are prone to dying early, that's why they have shorter warranties.
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Rather Dashing posted:So I'm about to embark on my first build. I'm happy with the specs that I've got (including a few items left over from my last compy which I plan to replace later in the year), but is there anything I should get other than the items in the OP such as CPU coolant, specific screwdrivers etc? Phillips head screwdriver is all you need. Maybe an anti-static wristband if you're paranoid. You don't need extra thermal compound, the CPU cooler will come with some.
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May 28, 2014 15:01
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Spiritus Nox posted:Parts are ordered and on their way. One last question: How long would the goon hivemind expect me and my dad to spend on our first build? I've heard anything from 30 minutes, which I doubt I'll manage from what I've seen, to 4 hours, which seems like a worst case "I got halfway through and had to start over from the beginning twice" scenario. 2-3 hours, usually. Less if you've got an SSD.
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Spiritus Nox posted:That's what I was thinking. Watching the Newegg tutorial, the only part that intimidates me at all is installing the heatsink on the CPU. Everything else looks tedious at worst. Installing the CPU itself is nervewracking. It always crunches and sounds like you're breaking it even when you're not.
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Unbelievably White posted:My goal is to reduce the size and noise of my tower, and get an OS better than XP. This machine has been a Your existing motherboard won't fit in that case.
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deimos posted:Wait, the bronze is SS too? I thought it was a different manufacturer. Johnny Guru says it is. I've seen a few people in this thread say the same thing.
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nilumtil posted:I'm trying to decide the best option to upgrade my aged system, especially given costs. My main goal is that if I spend like $450 or more, I should be able to play AAA console port games, 1080p/max settings, shooting for 60fps but 40 would be acceptable. I was hoping to keep up with a PS4, performance wise, and for longer than like 3 months if possible. If I were you I'd get a used 290 with a custom cooler and a transferable warranty, and a new PSU from the OP. I've never heard of Ultra brand but it sounds like an electrical fire waiting to happen. Your CPU is fine for the time being, a new i5 would be ~$300 for maybe 5-10 FPS at most. The 290 is a bitchin' card. The GTX 770 is in that same price range if you don't want a used mining card, and nVidia has arguably better drivers, but it's slower. BTW as far as your first option goes, the 4570 won't work with your current motherboard, it uses a different socket. You'd want a 3570 which is less of an upgrade from what you have now.
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nilumtil posted:Indulge the less knowledgeable, if you will: Your questions are getting a little bit beyond my expertise, but I'll answer the best I can. Hopefully someone more knowledgable can elaborate or correct me if I'm wrong. I wouldn't try to use such a powerful card with that power supply. Less reputable PSUs like that one don't actually put out as many watts as they say they do, and if you overload it you could have a failure that can destroy your whole computer, or if you're really unlucky, your whole house. The 290x is significantly more expensive than the plain 290 (they're different cards), you can get a 290 and a really good PSU for the same price as a 290x. That $27 XFX model a few posts up is the steal of the century, and the 290 is still stupidly good for 1080p, you'll get solid 60 FPS at 1080p/max settings on most games. If you're mostly concerned about gaming, an SSD doesn't increase frame rates except in MMOs and open world games. They're great for non-gaming, I'll never go back, but I'd still get a new PSU before an SSD. The power supply is the most important component in your machine. The 4th generation (Haswell) Intel processors use socket 1150, not 1155. Your motherboard is 1155 which supports 2nd generation (Sandy Bridge) and 3rd generation (Ivy Bridge) only. On eBay used 290x's with custom coolers start at about $400. The reference cooler ones are $300-350 but are much louder. That's actually a lot cheaper than I realized, might be worth it if you can deal with the noise or if you wear headphones when gaming. You wouldn't RMA the card until it stops working or otherwise fucks up. I'm pretty sure buying a used one and immediately RMAing it to get a new one would constitute fraud. At best, they'll test it, find out it works fine, and just send it back to you. The 200 series is new enough that they shouldn't be too worn out from mining just yet. It should last until it's obsolete enough that you'll want a new one. Just don't buy a used 7000 series, those are 2 years old.
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HalloKitty posted:I think 'most games' is downplaying it even I'm thinking of console ports that are so shittily coded that they won't run smoothly no matter how much machine you throw at it. Watch_Dogs being the newest one. I was playing KOTOR a few weeks ago and getting frame rate dips into the teens, and that game is 11 years old.
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Wengy posted:My rig (i5 3570k, 8 GB RAM, 660 Ti) runs Watch Dogs like utter poo poo on ultra. What do I need to buy to make the game run well? A console.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Something I was just thinking about now that all my poo poo's ordered - everything I need should come with whatever cables I need to get everything wired correctly, right? Or will I need to buy an SATA cables or anything like that? You're gonna need an extra SATA cable. The motherboard comes with 2 and you need 3.
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Karl Sharks posted:Would like a look over of the list I've gotten together. Stuck more or less to suggestions from the OP, and obviously I'll replace the CPU as suggested when the second rolls around, but was going to probably go ahead and order the rest tonight or maybe tomorrow. I think it's fairly obvious it's built for serious gaming. I pretty much only watch TV/movies on my PC, but I'm not an aficionado so unless that monitor is garbage (which I've read it's high quality for its low price) then I won't complain. I had a bit of trouble picking between things like the motherboard, video card, etc when the OP just has "get this manufacturer and type" but there's a decent spread between prices. I hope generally picking towards the cheaper end isn't a huge mistake. If you do end up going with the 4670K instead of Devil's Canyon, don't expect to get a good overclock out of it with a Hyper 212.
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FYI, got a cheap wireless adapter because my desktop will mostly be in my room on campus, where I have an ethernet outlet not even 3 feet from where it'll be and I like having it plugged in regardless of having wireless on or not.
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Tempest_56 posted:Doing my first new build since high school. I'm mostly looking for a reasonably budgeted, mid-range machine - a couple of games, not looking to overclock, etc. More or less put it together from the suggested parts in the OP. I've already picked up a few parts (case, fan, HD), but figured it wouldn't hurt to ask for a double check/suggestions about where I can boost performance or longevity while keeping it at/around $1000. (The monitor is the big throw-away piece, I'll probably just grab whatever Woot has up for a good deal on a 1920x1080.) That's a bad monitor. Get one with an IPS panel. And lose the wired network adapter, like fletcher said.
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nebby posted:I just put together my build thanks to the help in this thread. I sprung for the EVGA GTX 780 Ti, god drat this thing is sweet. And yeah getting the EVO on there without loving up was kind of a bitch, but managed to get the thing to boot on the first try. (This never happens, at least for me.) Only catch was I ended up having to take off and remount the mobo half way through because of the loving sound daughter card the mobo came with needs to be mounted before you install the mobo (because the audio jacks need to be slotted through the port panel.) Other than that went smoothly and it runs like a dream. I bought a Z97 board in the end even though I am not overclocking since my plan is in 3-4 years to upgrade the CPU and GPU and probably will overclock it then. If you buy a new CPU in 3-4 years you'll need a new motherboard.
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You have to do it on a 64-bit OS. Microsoft won't let you download the 64-bit version of Windows if the machine your using is running 32-bit. You can check in the "System" section of the control panel. I'm not sure if you can do it on a Mac.
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Thumbtacks posted:I have a Windows 7 CD for a 64-bit version, I'm wondering if I can just put that on a USB and boot from there. My laptop is 64-bit as well so I don't think that will be a problem. That should work fine, just follow the guide.
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I have the Harman Kardon Soundsticks III and they're pretty great. I actually took them off my PC and hooked them up to my turntable.
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sebmojo posted:My goon approved build is still running blindingly well (r9 270x, i5 4570, 8 gig) but I'm eyeing up an ips screen like the Dell U2412M to replace my TN Dell 24 incher. Unfortunately I can't find one to actually look at anywhere in my home town to decide whether it's worth it. It's quite noticable. You get used to it after awhile. After I'd had mine for a few months I hooked up my old TN screen as a 2nd monitor and the difference is amazing. The TN just looks so washed out and bland.
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VirtualStranger posted:I don't really know much about monitors. I need an inexpensive 1920x1080. The Asus VS series ones appear to be very common and they're pretty cheap. Is there anything wrong with them? As Hace said it's not an IPS panel, also it only has a VGA connector so you'd need an adapter to hook it up to a modern video card. Don't buy that. The Dell S2240M is a much better monitor for $10 less. Monday_ fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jun 14, 2014 |
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Zohn posted:Well, it turns out for Don't buy a $30 power supply. Also you don't need the Arctic Silver.
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SolitarySolidarity posted:I already own the Z77 & 3570k. Are they not good anymore? I should just scrap this thing? That PSU got really good reviews when it was released, but that was back in 2007. I'd get a new one if it's more than 2-3 years old. 550W is fine for a single video card.
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Caddrel posted:My friend was going to buy an Intel i5-4590 and MSI B85M-G43, but now the new motherboards are out and the choices are a little confusing. From my understanding (I may be wrong), the older 85/87 require a BIOS update for Haswell Refresh processors. So unless you have an older Haswell CPU lying around that you can use long enough to update the BIOS, it won't boot. You want an H97 board.
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Araganzar posted:Here's my current system, I don't know much about current motherboards or processors but there is a Newegg combo for $30 off on the two I chose. I may want to stream at some point so I'd like a system that can handle that. I'd bump it up to 16GB of RAM, sell those monitors and get one with an IPS panel. I hear the Dell Ultrasharps are very good.
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