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Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
I'm a little late on this, but I'm glad there are other people out there who appreciate Die Another Day.

I even love that song.

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Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

You mean Trans4mers.

quote:

Maleficent could come out of nowhere and be the next Snow White And The Huntsman.

Maleficent's look was inspired by Born This Way era Lady Gaga, so there's hope.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

ChickenMedium posted:

I guess if there was someone who'd only been on the scene for like 5 years and yet have "eras" of their work, it would be Lady Gaga.

That word is used among her fans because together with each album she releases she has so much else going on at the same time, and often that stuff is exploring the same themes and aesthetics as the actual music. Stuff like her music videos, costumes/looks, performances, interviews, slogans, etc. are what make up each "era".

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

TwistedLadder posted:

:shrug: I haven't read the books, that's what I was told.

I haven't read the books either, but it seems to me its better to present rape as unambiguously non-consensual rather than as some sort of "they said no but they really wanted it" situation, and it sounds like the latter is how the books presented both.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

CelticPredator posted:

Did you guys here that Robert Orci got the new Trek movie? I think that sucks.

I also really dislike Star Trek on a whole, so I quite enjoyed the 2009 movie. But the writing for both were pretty bad. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was one of the worst things I've seen in a while. Into Darkness was also kinda bad, but at least Abrams knows how to directo actors and make a movie look pretty, plus it had some cool action scenes too. I have no idea what Orci is going to bring to the table here but I'm guessing it will be something with 35% more 9/11 metaphors.

It could be interesting, I'm curious to see what this rebooted franchise will turn into with less slick direction (I'm assuming, since as far as I know it will be his debut).

I'm hoping they move away from the ties to the old timeline, and especially the idea of fate tied to that timeline.

Nobody ever brings up Fringe or his older work when they talk about the dude. I forgot he worked on Xena.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Corek posted:

Orci is a well-known 9/11 truther who put all the 9/11 subtext in the last Star Trek movie.

I thought he just said one time on Twitter that he was started to question the official story of 9/11. I disagree with that sentiment but it alone doesn't really make him a "truther". Did I miss something else?

It's weird, though, how he's supposed to be simulataneously a crazy left-wing truther but then also a crazy right-wing "'Merica" type when the Transformers films come up (not that you specifically said that, thouugh).

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Happy Fun Bollocks posted:

I said to a woman on the internet who already has an SA account, "you should look at the Transformers thread in CD, those movies are more interesting than I thought", because she is a fan of the G1 cartoons and the More than Meets the Eye comics and has bought a couple of the toys, but she said "no, I saw the first one and it's boring and I'm not going to rewatch it or watch the sequels or read a 500 page PDF about them". Women are completely irrational!

Her loss.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
With Minority Report, its also based on a Philip K Dick story and never knowing what was real was a big theme in his work and his real life.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
My immersion!

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Skwirl posted:

Watch Empire Strikes Back, or most other decent sword fights on film, there should be a sense that at least one of the people involved is trying to hit the other, just for purposes of dramatic tension.

Sure, yeah. I get it. But that's a very different film in every way. Just like how "I love you" "I know" fits there, but wouldn't between Amidala and Anakin.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

wyoming posted:

I'm also reading it in my favourite format for old sci-fi books, beat up paperbacks with ridiculous covers:


Hell yes. There are so many different covers for those books and most of them are amazing. Especially for God Emperor.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
best theme die another day

"Sigmund Freud, Analyze This!"

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
The Brosnan Bonds are really great camp. Skyfall strikes a good balance between the campier ones and Casino's serious realism tone (which bored me personally).

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

You know, I think I'd actually be pretty okay with Panos Cosmatos remaking big name 80s movies.

Is he doing anything?

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
It's one thing to sleep in, its another to do so and expect your housemates to live around your sleep schedule. The latter boggles my mind.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
How is it that the forums were down for days yet all the threads I usually follow have way way more new posts to catch up with than usual?

SALT CURES HAM posted:

Also over the forums-downtime I ended up reading Johnny the Homicidal Maniac because I wanted to laugh derisively at cringeworthy 90s bullshit (plus the art is pretty good) and... it wasn't bad? :psyduck:

Like, did my taste in things suddenly get really terrible, or does that comic just get a really unfair rap because of the idiots who latched on to it?

The latter. Like so many similar situations, it all comes back to people confusing depicting something with advocating it.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

axleblaze posted:

I do like that there's a part where he Vasquez basically directly calls anyone that wants to be like Johnny an idiot (having him literally say "I'm the villain in this loving story"), yet it didn't really have an effect on the fanbase.

I can't fully agree with that because I've seen so many people make the same comment you just made.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

SALT CURES HAM posted:

I mean, that's fair, I just get douche-chills writing out the title of that comic and the name of its creator.

Huh?

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

DrVenkman posted:

Pacific Rim 2: It says something for Del Toro that I was largely disappointed by the first one and still I want to give him the benefit of the doubt with whatever he comes up with next. Just...please replace Charlie Hunnam. Just go with an all new cast.

My thoughts exactly.

Charlie Day can stay, though.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

If Only God Forgives is any indication

Only God Forgives is pure cinema.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

SRM posted:

Just got back from Transformers 4; I'm glad it came out now instead of in 2002 because then it would probably have been called Transf4mers. I won't clutter up this thread with much more talk about it, but that's a movie with a lot of pretty sunsets and an awful lot of jackets. I dug it.

The fact that it's not called Trans4mers is only acceptable because there's still a chance the next one (!) will be called Trans5mers.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

DrVenkman posted:

Transformers 4 has a myriad of problems much bigger than Grammer though (I wanted to get in there before I get told I'm watching it 'wrong' and it's secretly a masterpiece.) My favourite was when one male character unironically tells another that he has to stay alive because someone has to look after his daughter. The fact that she might be able to look after herself is never addressed.

If the past 3 movies taught me anything it was that you don't have to agree with what the characters do or say, and the movie isn't necessarily asking you to. This applies even to films that are not "secret masterpieces".

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

DrVenkman posted:

I agree. But 'Men are Men, Women are to be saved' is such a recurring theme in Bay's work that I can't not see it. He's politically odious.

I'm not sure that's true. Just look at Maggie Madsen's role in the first Transformers.

Regardless, what makes you think Bay is expressing that view, as opposed to just his characters doing so (consistently)?

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Steve Yun posted:

Anyone wanna defend Cronenberg to me? Videodrome is artless and guileless. There's no cleverness to its message. It's just clumsy, blunt symbolism mashed in the audience's face.

What do you think that blunt message is?

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Steve Yun posted:

Cronenberg is sitting at the typewriter wondering how to symbolize that James Wood is being brainwashed by media to become violent. "Uhh... I'll have somebody literally stick a videotape inside James Wood. Yeah, that'll do it. "

You missed a key point, ironically the actually bluntest part: All his exposure to violent pornography doesn't make Max violent. The people who want to censor his "scum show" do, for their own twisted sense of moral progress.

Lord Krangdar fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Jun 30, 2014

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I don't know that the takeaway from Videodrome is that media makes you violent.

Cronenberg was reacting to people who thought that about his early films, and IIRC especially the controversy over their government funding.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
Cronenberg has claimed he didn't even know the graphic novel existed until after directing the film.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
Its true that Cronenberg really did say that, and he doesn't seem to really respect comic adaptations. At the same time I don't see how he could not know the source for his own movie.

Everyone go listen to the score for Cronenberg's Crash. I'm quite sad he never adapted its sister novel The Atrocity Exhibition.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Baron von Eevl posted:

Didn't Herzog say he had never even heard of the original Bad Lieutenant after Abel Ferrara got all pissy about BL:PoC:NO?

Its weird in both cases because don't directors watch their own films? Don't they approve the credit sequences?

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
Give every movie generous readings.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
Most polarizing this year has gotta be Godzilla. At least both people who love and who hate Trans4mers will be able to agree on a lot about it.

But the Lego movie, insincere? Huh?

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

I have a feeling my viewing of the Lego movie was at least in part influenced by watching it on DVD, where it's preceded by 20+ minutes worth of commercials for Lego Land theme parks, Lego: The Movie: The Video Game, Lego The Hobbit: The Movie: The Video Game, and another Lego movie about a farting skunk.

You don't skip that poo poo?

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

I have a feeling this is one of those questions you already know the answer to, but I'll humor you: No.

But like not just for that movie but normally, you always watch all the previews and stuff? That's bizarre to me.

In this case that's exactly the context in which the actual Lego Movie stood out. It could have easily been more of that, but it wasn't.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Beyond The Black Rainbow, of course. Any second it seems like someone is going to start talking about stimulating the pineal gland.

I always thought Cronenberg's Stereo and Crimes of the Future were akin to that film, as well.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

CloseFriend posted:

Slice of Life: I know we have a lot of depression sufferers in this thread (I'm one)… Do any of you have really weird/random triggers? I ask because one of mine, of all things, is this song. It's this bouncy, happy, major-key song that makes me sad as hell as soon as I hear it. (For some reason, my brain associates it with the boy in the box, which is the saddest thing I've ever seen.) Of course I've had the loving song stuck in my head all day.

Does anybody else have this problem with weird depression triggers, or is it just me?

When I used to be depressed I would have bad days randomly triggered by seeing anything rainbow colored on an overcast day. I think it was because as a kid I had curtains with a rainbow pattern and when I first developed Seasonal Affective Disorder, without knowing it of course, I would just lie in bed staring at those drat curtains for hours.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Beyond sane knolls posted:

Last night I dreamt that I answered a knock on my door, whereupon I met an old woman who asked my opinion on Michael Bay. I was like, "Y'know, he's a pretty good filmmaker. There are some who'd say he's a genius. I dunno." She proceeded to enter my home uninvited, followed by dozens of other disheveled elderly people, most of them quite freakish and debased in appearance. As she made herself at home, the one who had knocked merely said, "We have nowhere else to go." My house had become a refugee camp for some weird sort of Michael Bay fans. Thankfully I woke up before I could discover why exactly they were cast out of society, but I have a feeling the reason was far more perverse than simply liking Michael Bay's work.

Maybe they were also fans of Damon Lindelof.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Coffee And Pie posted:

Slice of life: after my first trip to the dentist in years, I've learned I need two wisdom teeth removed, multiple root canals, and a few cavities too.

He told you that you need a few cavities? Sounds like a scam.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Also I had to take some sort of steroid right after the operation and I got, like, cartoonishly angry about nothing for about an hour.

Was it Prednisone?

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Geekboy posted:

The most valid criticisms I heard of True Detective were based around the women being props, so yes a female lead would be super rad.

They weren't props, the show just wasn't primarily about them. It was only really about the two leads, and only they got fully developed.

But yeah, next season focusing on women sounds promising.

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Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Anonymous Robot posted:

Silent Hill 2 is one of like, three games that have artistic merit in the conventional sense.

That's a silly thing to say.

But yeah, I had hoped maybe the second film was getting poo poo on because of fan expectations or the usual hyperbole where everything has to be the best or worst thing ever, but it actually is entirely worthless. I can't even see it as worth-while camp, or "so bad its good", or whatever.

Lord Krangdar fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jul 12, 2014

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