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Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
He is literally Colbert's caricature of himself.

Speaking of which, bet his face is red.

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Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

He ain't on drugs. He's just high on Trump.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Darkman Fanpage posted:

When Trump announced he was running I was tempted to say something about the clown having arrived at the party. Then I remembered this is the 2016 GOP primary race.



2016GOPPrimaries.jpg

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

site posted:

Somewhere Oprah is laughing her rear end off.

Yeah, like she'd play second fiddle to that rear end in a top hat. He'd be lucky to be 20th on the list for her VP.


That's it. I know the Republicans are hiding a reanimation station somewhere. Trump blurted it out and will be castigated, but the big reveal is Ayn Rand running on the Libertarian ticket, with Rand Paul as VP.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

So he's planning a Red Summit?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Fried Chicken posted:

Someone posted a more elegant phrasing of it earlier, but the thing about Trump is all he is really doing is taking the mindless babble you see from your Sunday morning talking heads and rear end in a top hat op-eds, and saying it the way it would be phrased by your usual Jay Leno Jay-walking guy on the street would. It's like a variation on the quote about Buckley being an intellectual by virtue of saying the same thing as Bull Connor but without a southern accent. What is the difference between Trump declaring he has a secret plan to beat ISIS that he won't share but the problem is Obama is too much of a chickenshit to implement it, and Krauthammer saying he has an in depth strategy too long to go into here but the problem is Obama won't LEAD and MAKE HARD CHOICES? What is the difference between Trump's message of "I'm worth 9 billion therefore I am better than you" and David Brooks about how being wealthy is linked to a better cultural morality that provides a better citizen? What is the difference between Trump's most inane nonsensical blather, and anything Tom Friedman says?

His patois may be different but the substance is the same

I've got it: Trump/Friedman 2016.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Zikan posted:

I hope the Republican Party solves this Crusader Kings 2 style by setting up an Antipope.

Mel Gibson (Columbus I) will be made Antipope in Constantine, Michigan. The Sedevacantists will be pleased.

whitey delenda est posted:

At least one of halberdiers!

That's ceremonial, Archer.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

The X-man cometh posted:

iJeb! is on the Tonight Show, isn't it a little early to be on the talk show circuit?

Think of it this way, with Trump declaring in an already crowded Republican race, each of them needs to reserve spots as fast as they can. It's reality television logic, Race for the Nomination, there's no time to lose!

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

fermun posted:

First Republican debate has been confirmed to be 10 candidates only, looks like Trump is 11-9th place depending on the specific poll, but first debate is a Fox News one, will they use their own polls elusively or will they do a poll-average?

Great, if intentional. (Or even if not)


Yeah, there's just no satirizing him. He will out-outlandish you every time.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Joementum posted:

Carly Fiorina's Super PAC was named "Carly for America", which violates FEC rules.

It has since changed its name to "CARLY for America", which is fine because it means "Conservative, Authentic, Responsive Leadership for You and for America", so it doesn't refer to any particular candidate.

:911:

How do I get a job with the FEC? That sounds like the most phone-it-in sinecure ever.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

In a rare first of its kind move, a Socialist organization has begun a campaign trying to prove that someone who identifies as a Socialist is actually not a true Socialist at all.

Jacobin has a series of essays out now making the case against Bernie Sanders. The list of charges follows:

They do end on a positive note about Bernie's candidacy though:

This is literally the first time this has ever happened on the left, so it will be interesting to see if it succeeds in bringing about full socialism.

I, too, remember how Peta Lindsay and Jill Stein's runs outside the mainstream parties mobilized true leftists and brought about real existing socialism in 2012. :rolleyes: (I did vote for Lindsay, btw)

It helps to think of Jacobin as Forbes for champagne socialists.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Luigi Thirty posted:

I voted for a black socialist because I know a neo-Stalinist who was way too excited about Lindsay. I am the splitter.

There was a black socialist running in 2012? :monocle:

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

GalacticAcid posted:

Jacobin's online stuff is mostly poo poo. They're more scrupulous about what goes into the print publication. Most of their pieces on education or urban infrastructure are valuable, other topics are not as strong.

I was subscribed for a year, didn't get a sense it was really worth the money or the read. It's meticulous leftist filler.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

uncurable mlady posted:

Move to establish Biden as Shadow Vice President for life.

I wouldn't be surprised if he retired before the end of Obama's term, to be honest. He's barely keeping it together. :smith:

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

The Shortest Path posted:

If killing people for the purpose of trying to start a race war doesn't constitute an act of terror, what does?



Furthermore, lmao at the people in this thread who think Hilary wouldn't allow a Republican congress to do some awful poo poo that benefits the people giving her tons of money. That alone is enough of a reason to put Bernie on the ticket, never mind any of what he actually believes which is a ton better than what she's giving us.

Why do you have the impression that people in this thread have the power to put Sanders on any ticket? I'm not a registered Democrat, so I wouldn't be able to vote for him in the primaries, assuming he makes it as far as New York before conceding.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Anorexic Sea Turtle posted:

So I know y'all probably don't give them any credit, but have you heard any of the rumblings from our minor parties? Has Dr. Jill Stein been making the rounds?

I haven't heard much about her since 2012. This is the latest post on her Facebook page, from June 10th:

quote:

Friends: now that I've seen how excited people are for a new kind of politics, I'm preparing to make a big announcement soon
;)

We have a plan to make waves across the country, but to make it happen, I need your support today.

Will you help me get my campaign off to a running start?

[redacted]

PS. Anything you give (up to $250) will be matched dollar-for-dollar when we qualify for federal matching funds ;)
#‎ItsInOurHands‬

One thing I will say for Sanders, at least he's an active politician between Presidential election.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

taqueso posted:

There is still plenty of time to change your party affiliation before the primary.

The Shortest Path posted:

Every single person in this thread has the power to register Democrat and vote in the primary. His polling numbers are similar to if not better than what Obama had in a similar timeframe for the 2008 election. Don't be lazy and give the cop-out "my vote doesn't matter" excuse, because the more people that do that the more we lose.

To my knowledge that's not how it works in NYS. Unless the Election Committee deceived me, your registration is only valid for the election after the next. That's why I wasn't able to vote against Cuomo in the WFP's primaries. If you have a link showing otherwise, I would strongly consider hopping over just for this purpose, although I am loth to give the Dems more general credibility in this State. (Not that WFP has much left, :smith:)

Anorexic Sea Turtle posted:

I live in Missouri so I don't even have to register as Democrat to get in there and vote. Maybe we should all change the rules of our state to allow for open primaries.

I'm not sure I like that. Party affiliation should stand for something. The person you're presenting to be elected should be representative of what the party stands for, not of whoever decided to show up for your primary.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

taqueso posted:

It seems like you are correct, if the last sentence is completely true. That makes it possible to have a huge delay between submitting the change and them processing it. The primary system is so irregular.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Gyges posted:

Is that a Calendar Year or 365 days? Not being able to vote in your changed party's primary in the same calendar year you changed is dumb but makes way more sense than having to wait 365 days before you can vote in the primary.

Seriously though, what the gently caress New York?

Point is they wouldn't register my change of affiliation until after the 2016 elections, so definitely not in time for the NYS Democratic Primaries for those elections. Probably exactly to avoid a situation where someone will hop affiliation just to vote in a specific primary.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Also it's not like Russia is going to de-annex Crimea or disinvade Eastern Ukraine, or China going to unclaim those islands and raising hell aobut it, or a variety of ethnic/religious/economic conflicts in the Middle East and Africa are going to just disappear, as soon as the Good and Right and Proper President takes office. I'm not sure I want a President who will be ideologically opposed to the use of military force, because they are going to compromise, except you don't know how because they said they'd never do it, period.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Some serious trolling by Sanders:

quote:


“Today we live in the wealthiest nation in the history of the world,” said Sanders... “But the vast majority of the American people do not know that, do not feel that, because almost all of that wealth today rests in the hands of a tiny few."

"What we are saying to the billionaire class is, 'Your greed, which is destroying this country, has got to end,’ ” Sanders said.

Sanders called out Adelson by name.

"People like Sheldon Adelson … and the Koch brothers are now spending unbelievable sums of money [to influence the political process]," Sanders said, according to the Post. Charles and David Koch are billionaires who also support conservative causes and candidates.

:tbear:

Also:

quote:


While Sanders took advantage of the proximity to Adelson's casino, the location of the rally didn’t appear to be intentional.

He had reserved a room at the University of Nevada Las Vegas but had to move to a bigger location at the Treasure Island hotel and casino near the Venetian to accommodate a bigger-than-expected crowd.

Bernmentum!

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Grouchio posted:

Why has the thread title and icon become hispanic? :psyduck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ5iulTwAzQ

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Sir Tonk posted:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/clinton/

Her history leads me to believe that she would be a far more leftist President than Obama.

And really, how much longer is D&D, of all the people, going to obsess over Sanders as if he has any chance in hell of getting the nomination, much less the Presidency? It's like the PronHaul days all over again, just with less gold standard.

Is there another candidate to discuss on the Democratic side who's going to make it in any way interesting? There's a couple of people obsessed with Sanders, but I think most of us are just glad it's not going to be boring. Especially with the Republicans having an anal discharge consisting of a mix of fecal matter and semen and a man possessed by his extraterrestrial hair.

I honestly tire of this notion of "D&D" like it's some kind of unitary hive-mind you are personally up against. There is no such thing, and if there were, it's not ba-ba for Bernie. You need but look at the arguments in the past couple of pages. :shrug:

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Getting all het up about Sanders as President doesn't seem all that sustainable. If his "movement" really is a movement and not a bunch of people projecting their frustrations and excitement into one person and two races, then we'll see a push to primary out or pressure Democrats in local, State, House and Senate races, as well as run outsider socialists, and as has been said here before, I don't think Sanders expects any different. There's no point in having a McGovern repeat, either.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Miltank posted:

It could be a Goldwater repeat, and that would be a good thing.

How do you mean?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Sir Kodiak posted:

To the left of conservatives is where you find the middle-ground.

And therefore actual progress, and more gay and lesbian veterans, and hence grass-roots support for repeal. But I mean, I guess you could sit in the corner and just scowl at anything that isn't 110% of what you want and call that progressive. :shrug:

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

FAUXTON posted:

The middle of the bullseye is called the double bull and that's what happens when he starts talking.

When you hit the bullseye Rubio falls into a pool of water, from which he then proceeds to drink his fill. The water has to be replaced hourly.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

SirKibbles posted:

Political capital is not a thing there are not imaginary points you can save.

I don't think you've ever actually done politics, not even on the micro scale, otherwise you wouldn't say something like that. If you did you'd soon notice people gaining and losing it, and what the consequences are of that.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
How about we all take a break while the probations go through?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Excellent. Now how about we try this again without all the slap-fights, name-calling, slurs, and misogyny? :thumbsup:

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Has there ever been such an entertaining primary season?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Joementum posted:

Trump has still not filed paperwork with the FEC :ssh:

Speaking of paperwork, did Bernie's campaign ever end up reporting the in-kind donation by Ben&Jerry's?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Joementum posted:

Don't worry! HOT OFF THE PRESS! :toot: :dance:



We need a Trump "it's happening" .gif.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

:swoon:

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

quote:

DR. JILL STEIN: I wish that he had run outside the Democratic Party. There are many similarities, obviously, between his vision and my vision. The difference is that I’m running in a party that also supports that vision, so when our campaign comes to an end, that vision will not die. It will not be absorbed back into a party that is essentially hostile to that vision and which has basically disappeared similar very principled, wonderful reform efforts within the Democratic Party that have basically allowed the party to keep marching to the right.

And how many House Reps and Senators will that party have, Dr. Stein? :nallears:

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Vertical Lime posted:

Trump, of course, is taking this well



Has he ever in his life apologized for anything?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Joementum posted:

OK, I give up. I'm voting for Ted Cruz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrEmQk3u88U

I don't understand if this is for or against. :psyduck:

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Skwirl posted:

It's probably appropriate that there's as much disagreement in this thread on whiskey choices as there is on candidates. But you're still wrong, Evan Williams isn't even a bourbon.

Now, now, folks, we do have a thread for booze chat.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

RACHET posted:

All I see is an idiot that couldn't hack it at a low rank state college, Trump at least graduated from UPENN

Is that why he's trying to kill UW?

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Joementum posted:

Hillary is speaking at the Democratic Party's Jefferson-Jackson dinner in Virginia tonight and is referring to "a Republican candidate" when quoting Donald Trump.

Jefferson-Jackson? As in Thomas "I raped my slaves and only freed my slave children after my death" Jefferson and Andrew "Trail of Tears" Jackson? :psyduck:

I feel like John Oliver needs to have a "Why is this still a thing?" segment about this.

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Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Useless Shotgun posted:



So wait, is this a standup special or a presidential run?

You really think there's a difference? :v:

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