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Azran posted:"hey guys, I'm from the country where my current president has had a hand in terrorist acts against their own people". A month ago I'd be able to make a Sri Lanka joke.  Sirisena better actually fix the country, because Rajapaksa is the President for Life of My Heart.
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Future Days posted:Long time yes-man with nothing but a high-school degree and two decades experience of political cocksucking gets named embassador, earns $60k a month, is unashamedly proud of it. What an inspirational story. 
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Dias posted:Brazil is pretty much what would happen if China made one of their traditional ripoffs out of the entire United States of America. A good chunk of middle and upper-middle class basically think they're Americans, it's just that they pretend to be from the 00s while they actually think like people from the 50s. It leads to these interesting contradictions, as joe pointed out. It's hard to be cosmopolitan when an actual cosmopolitan person will look at you and go "...that's kinda backwards", so people take the liberal left position in English and whatever center-right line of thinking they find more interesting in Portuguese. I love my sister-in-law to death, but this isn't an entirely inaccurate assessment of her politics.  Edit: what's this about the Sao Paolo government murking people? Not that I'm necessarily surprised, I just hadn't heard it before.
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Magrov posted:So, Supreme Justice Zavascki, the judge in charge of the Lava Jato case in the Supreme Court, just died in an air accident. In Brazil, in case filthy foreigners like me were unaware.
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Conspiratiorist posted:That's just tax evasion (undeclared sales). Not Latin America, but there's a joint in one of the main Sri Lankan malls in the capital that is a pirated-DVD store. 
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Dias posted:That's another point: I think America is incredibly corrupt, but it had the cash and structure to avoid loving up too hard. Hell, I look at Japan and that country is a mess too, South Korea had a CULTIST in power and she didn't even had the decency to be a Satanist like our dude. The President Park thing will never stop being funny (not least because she's out of office now).
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bagual posted:It's not like "oh we have to because of informality", it's about a 30-40% tax on consumption, 4% tax on inheritance and literally no taxes on profits and dividends. what what aaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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El Chingon posted:so what's the deal with the lost submarine in Argentina? was it negligence on the poor state of the navy? Or the submarine was secretly carrying the invasion plans of Uruguay and the government is all Uruguayan pirates boarded it and commandeered it and are now threatening to make their careful and meticulous photography of it public. Tony Sorete posted:All of the above (potentially). Glorious Argentinian submarine probably would not, for example, accidentally operate the toilet incorrectly and sink to the bottom of the ocean.
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Shibawanko posted:So Bolso's going down in the polls a bit right? Is there any chance he may yet lose? my sister in law voted for Not Bolsonaro, so i think we'll be fine
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:Notice that the usual liberals in the media carping about how venezuela is a dictatorship are remarkably silent about brazil electing a literal fascist Both are bad. Also I don't pretend to be a representative media consumer but A) I bet you aren't either and B) I've seen PLENTY of "uh, Bolsonaro's actually pretty horrifying".
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:I'm interested in an in-depth look at Venezuela's collapse that's not propaganda. I mean, anything is going to be biased from some direction, but I'd like to read something more than socialism = bad. Any good articles on this? In very roughly descending order of how much I like them, here are four reasonably neutral (or at least not "socialism = bad" as their main angle) summary articles https://www.opendemocracy.net/democraciaabierta/chris-carlson/crisis-in-venezuela-and-its-lessons-for-left April 2018, pretty solid https://www.vox.com/world/2017/9/19/16189742/venezuela-maduro-dictator-chavez-collapse Reasonably detailed, some of the sentences may make leftists angry, also it's from 2017 so it's missing some of the more recent fuckery and catastrophes https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/04/venezuela-happening-170412114045595.html Bullet points, but lots of them https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36319877 it's fine I can pretty much guarantee there's better stuff out there but this was a cursory google for introductory-ish stuff. Edit: here's one from a left-er perspective that still isn't Maduro apologism: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/07/venezuela-maduro-helicopter-attack-psuv-extractivism-oil there was an interesting jacobin article that did a deeper dive on Venezuelan agriculture (and, uh, made a concerted effort to come up with reasons why Maduro wasn't to blame for food shortages) but I can't find it offhand Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Nov 2, 2018 |
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RagnarokZ posted:Yes, because toppled Latin American governments always end up so well. Wait? What's that? Dirty War? Throwing people out of helicopters over the ocean? Mass Graves? Nooo, that's just LEFT WING PROPAGANDA! for a while I was hoping there might be some sort of reasoned and careful pressure the other South and Central American countries, particularly Venezuela's neighbors, could collectively apply without the US getting excessively tempted to gently caress around and then welp Brazil elected a Nazi so yeah, i guess i'm stuck hoping Venezuela's continued implosion doesn't get too much more horrible for Venezuelans Badger of Basra posted:I remember when the Jacobin article came out and all the HANDS OFF NORTH KOREA people said this meant Jacobin was a CIA front. that's silly, I don't see Brown Moses' name mentioned anywhere in the article
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Plutonis posted:Aahehahahaehahahahahaehahaehaehaehaehaeheaheahaehaehaehaeha way to elevate the discussion, jackass It's not particularly clear to me whether "the presidency is vacant because Maduro rigged the election and fabricated a parallel legislature" is more constitutionally valid than "Maduro is president forever because there is no remedy specified in the constitution for violations of the constitution at this level", but that just means it's a constitutional crisis initiated by exactly the events in the post you 'responded' to. fortunately, the Supreme Court is dominated by Maduro flunkies
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Dias posted:As far as I understand, with my admittedly limited knowledge, Maduro is a disaster (even taking sanctions into account), but it's still hilarious that the opposition just went no im president now As I alluded to, it's the least crazy and horrible remedy to the situation short of Maduro's heart growing three sizes and/or the PSUV somehow revolting against its shithead leadership and restoring true socialist utopia. And given that it would require something resembling a constitutionally justified-ish military coup, it's still pretty crazy and horrible!
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qnqnx posted:Please don't ever post again about South America, or at all about any topic, thanks. please have some compassion for the plight of the customs officials on the Argentina-Venezuela border
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Scaramouche posted:I work with 5 Brazilians but they're all upper middle class Japanese extraction so they're all pro-Bolso. Coxinhas I think the term is? i'm very glad that my sister-in-law, her parents, and her best friend all hate Bolsonaro i was worried because they're also relatively well off and pretty pale
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Pochoclo posted:My favourite Evita quote is yeah the Perons were complicated and my feelings about them are complicated
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...that's frankly a very polite and thoughtful sicario
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ArfJason posted:lol at the sicarios wearing payday 2 masks godspeed mexico, i hope the usa will stop funding the narcostate someday that's necessary and urgent but not sufficient, a la how repealing Prohibition didn't gut American organized crime
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man I kinda like Morales but on a cursory look the numbers do seem like they might be hinky is there, like, a recount and auditing protocol or something
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uninterrupted posted:Given the protestors against morales are going around and burning ballot boxes he absolutely legitimately won. the situations are not equivalent but good point it doesn't look great for the Bolivian protesters
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zocio posted:Also, please remember that Morales couldn't run for president again according to Bolivia's constitution, so he called a referendum, which he lost, so he sued and Bolivia's supreme Court sentenced that running for president is a basic human right and he cannot be impeded by silly things like the constitution. this does not sound entirely ideal
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joepinetree posted:There may be questions over whether he won in the first round or not, but there's no question that the courts had ok'd him running, that he was ahead, and its a question that will never be resolved because the opposition has started burning ballot boxes. The idea that this is "dictator for life" is laughable. I hope that DSA tag is ironic. people can disagree with you while still being leftists, bub they can even be sarcastic or ironical about it 
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Cup Runneth Over posted:It was a misconception that Morales used the court that he presumably appointed to circumvent constitutional term limits in order to let himself run for president again after losing a referendum on it. In reality, the court just struck down term limits that were shoehorned in under threat of an armed right wing insurrection, on the basis that that should not influence law and it was not added by the constitutional assembly. Or so I understand it. yeah I think I have some mild criticisms of Morales here (should be getting a successor ready or ideally have one, the election immediate results were kinda  ), but the protesters at best angrily hosed up election integrity themselves and there's not really a good remedy to that that isn't unfair to SOMEBODYhopefully things get resolved with a minimum of violence
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I assume an FF win is not great, not terrible.
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wait, if his name is alberto, why is the acronym FF his middle name is angel, so that can't be it
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Dias posted:I'm just gonna add that Dilma got impeached by a coalition that stretched constitutional law to get her out and I'm pretty comfortable calling that a coup anyway. I'd actually argue that the Dilma thing bears more resemblance to the nonsense bullshit invalidation of the Venezuelan National Assembly by Team Maduro and, even more closely, the invalidation of candidates and coalitions running againdt Maduro for the presidency. The remedies for the Venezuelan opposition in late 2018 / early 2019 consisted of - Wobbly constitutionally fig leafed pseudo-coup to install Guaido and hold elections, or - Revolt without fig leaf (other than the amusing line in the Venezuelan constitution about how armed overthrow of a tyrant is constitutional )they tried the former and ultimately fell flat on their incompetent faces, but I feel like the fig leaf was preferable to its absence?
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:South America’s wretched month has been great for one man: Venezuela’s Maduro I really really really want to see how you would respond if China somehow decided to back him
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Elias_Maluco posted:Could not find another source and I dont know this one, but I saw it elsewhere (in portuguese) Does Morales have solid support in the military?
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:reportedly 16 leaked audio recordings implicating the US government in instigating a coup against evo morales i can't properly evaluate the embassy allegations / PostCuba as a platform (seems to be this Marco Velazquez Cristo guy's blog?), but afaict based on PostCuba's own summaries the only mention in the audio of USgov conspiracy is Rubio-Cruz-Menendez being vaguely pro-Bolivian-opposition which, well, obviously
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legalization is probably necessary but definitely not sufficient for USians, we have an extremely direct analogy in alcohol prohibition - it vastly strengthened organized crime, and while repealing it sharply constricted their cash flow, the bell could not be entirely unrung because, like the cartels, they had already branched out a bit and still had enough resources to keep their footing through alternative industries but prohibition repeal certainly wounded them
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Well, darn. Assuming the military et al let normal rules apply, who's next in line and are they good or bad? edit and also assuming the left protesters don't get morales reinstated
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Buried lede in the twitter headlines: quote:Morales said he will call new elections after the Organization of American States (OAS) released a report saying a disputed vote last month that sparked deadly protests should be annulled because of irregularities. the opposition is, of course, demanding that Morales also not run again OAS preliminary report on their apparent election-system concerns: http://www.oas.org/documents/spa/press/Informe-Auditoria-Bolivia-2019.pdf i can't be bothered to machine translate it on my phone so I don't have an opinion on it Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Nov 10, 2019 |
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Pochoclo posted:They're basically saying they found possible fraud to the tune of 350k votes, and Morales would have still gotten a comfortable majority, but it would have almost certainly gone to ballotage Okay yeah, the first count round he just barely squeaked past the runoff bar so that's what I would have expected if any fuckery was suspected; do you / the thread have any idea whether the audit / report is reasonably credible? Also, re my earlier question, quote:The resignations of Morales and his vice president meant it was not initially clear who would take the helm of the country pending the results of new elections.
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joepinetree posted:None of that changes the fact that this is a coup. Are you alright with the first two? I haven't developed an opinion on whether he should have resigned pending new elections (and the military taking a hand in it is, uh, not great, and I'm worried about what the interim government is going to look like now) but I think I'm okay with a redo in and of itself - it's annoying to reward the opposition protesters for destroying ballots but it seems like a reasonable remedy and, I mean, if Morales was going to legit win the first election he can legit win a second, right?
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Majorian posted:Given that the opposition has apparently burned quite a few ballots, I'm not sure they have the moral high ground here. I keep waffling on what the remedy should be there. We don't want that to be a standard strategy by the side that thinks it lost, but "well guess we can't do a recount now, that means I definitely won" doesn't sit entirely well with me either.
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joepinetree posted:Yes? A reminder that the only reason there was an audit was because Morales invited it. And if the audit found anything questionable, sure, have a do over. Sure. I'm just crossing my fingers that the outcome isn't terrible and the new election is prompt, fair, and ideally won by Morales (or a substitute leftist if he gets screwed out of running as a result of this). fake edit: actually based on what I know so far about the report, one remedy might be to not have a full new election but instead to just assume "okay, maybe all 350k votes or whatever were invalid, let's have the runoff that would have happened without them"
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ANIME AKBAR posted:In a vacuum, yeah, that sounds like a military coup. But it sounds pretty disingenuous to describe the situation in such black and white terms. when the military politely suggests that you resign for the good of the nation, when the cops have already mostly flipped and you're having trouble with your own supporters, that's pretty  joepinetree posted:Ah, no need for elections then. so I think there might be some confusion on at least one of our parts, aren't new elections still on the agenda?
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