NCAA Offseason N/V: Yet Another National Champion From The SEC

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That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

LeeMajors posted:

Ehh...the ads themselves aren't annoying when done with something resembling restraint.

Having a ridiculously huge video board just to do this...

...is just....too much to bear.

Our loving stadium sucks now

# ¿ Feb 8, 2015 07:31

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# ¿ May 11, 2024 19:17

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

DJExile posted:

A former New Mexico student has filed a Title IX suit against the school, alleging it dragged its feet in the investigation of her drugging and rape at the hands of football players

Bob Davie still running the Notre Dame playbook?

# ¿ Feb 24, 2015 04:57

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

The guilty few.

# ¿ Feb 24, 2015 21:56

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Raku posted:

Martial

Or whatever law has Dorito interference or whatever that was.

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 02:24

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Fluffdaddy posted:

Jesus Christ what is happening.

Guys, I don't want to backseat mod but this thread's getting real weird.

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 17:43

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

MourningView posted:

I want to play Rutgers for a staute of Andre Tippett or a literal jersey cow.

Down with this

# ¿ Mar 5, 2015 23:53

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

seiferguy posted:

I'll never understand the south and their obsession with holding onto history of them losing over something that's been proven to be wrong.

It's like Superbowl XL

# ¿ Mar 10, 2015 16:37

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

C2C - 2.0 posted:

Tulane got some new alts w/matte black helmets:

Wish I had better pictures.

They look cool but it's not really "Tulane" colors at all. Looks more like the high school my alma mater got folded into after Katrina.

http://www.nola.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/08/west_bank_high_school_football.html

Emron posted:

Looks white and gold to me.

# ¿ Mar 13, 2015 21:01

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

C2C - 2.0 posted:

The gently caress? You from all the way down there? Worked out of Venice for almost 12 years.

Yep, born and raised there for 20 years. Cool place to grow up.

# ¿ Mar 14, 2015 21:16

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

LOL at UTSA having a harder schedule than Texas

# ¿ Mar 14, 2015 21:46

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Trampoline derail has led to a lot of funny posts.

# ¿ Mar 18, 2015 02:58

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

At least goons talking about their sexual experiences is guaranteed to be a short derail.

# ¿ Mar 19, 2015 12:09

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Spacemonkey57 posted:

I'm pretty sure the stated mission of NCAA Athletics is "assuming the responsibility and financial burden of player development so a billion dollar industry doesn't have to"

I thought it was "Making a profit off of unpaid amateurs"

# ¿ Mar 24, 2015 14:15

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

This is all an interesting subject because you have a couple of things going that should be addressed.

1. The entire system overall makes boatloads of money off of college football. So, leaving the players unpaid and making them jump through a lot of hoops regarding compensation while claiming "they get so many benefits" is not really IMO a great argument. If I was worth millions in my job and was paid with a dorm room, on the job training and a food stipend I'd probably not like working there any longer than I needed to.

2. Paying players is a solution but where do you draw the line? Do you pay all the players for all NCAA sanctioned sports at a University? (arguably the most 'fair'). Do you pay them all the exact amount irrespective of school (again likely the most 'fair'). Or, do you pay only athletes in profitable sports. Subdividing that further, do you pay some players more than others based on their perceived worth to a program?

If you decide to pay players and then claim it will ruin smaller athletic programs that do not turn a profit then is this a suitable excuse to keep making profit off of unpaid players at larger programs?

Paying players would likely end a few athletic programs, possibly many. Is that a bad thing? If your best way to compete is to turn the University academic environment on its head into one that caters to an athletes ability to be a better (and more profitable for the University) athlete then are you even fulfilling the point of college athletics in the first place? It sort of throws out the original intent for student athlete.

# ¿ Mar 24, 2015 14:50

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Deteriorata posted:

Just like high school, middle school, and rec league athletics. That in itself is not an issue. Most of those leagues have to charge admission and sell concessions to make money off amateur athletes so as to pay administrative costs.

The difference with college athletics is that a whole lot of money being made, far beyond any reasonable administrative costs. The NCAA itself doesn't get much of that of money, though. Most of it goes to conferences and individual athletic departments.

Paying the players is a nice idea on the surface, but the consequences of it end up being rather terrible. Good intentions with bad results are bad ideas. The solution is to reduce the commercialization of college sports.

Athletic departments are not stand-alone corporations, they are a department of their universities. The Athletic Director reports to the President of the University. Thus, the situation can be changed if the Presidents of enough universities decide to do something about it.

This has happened numerous times in the past, and in fact the NCAA itself was created by college presidents themselves due to all the chaos in intercollegiate athletics back in 1905. Insufficient faculty control of athletics has been an issue as long as college athletics has existed. Rather than a movement to pay the players which will essentially destroy college athletics, I would much rather see a movement to influence university faculties and presidents to reassert their control and reduce the commercialism in college athletics.

While I admire the sentiment I don't see Universities doing anything at all to cut off potential revenue streams while they are facing ever increasing funding cuts from their respective states. Private schools would have to lead with this if it were to happen at all.

# ¿ Mar 24, 2015 15:14

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

It doesn't matter because Deteriorata's argument is rooted in the notion that the way to fix the problem is to remove commercialization from college athletics.

That would fix it sure but has about a 0% probability of happening.

# ¿ Mar 24, 2015 22:43

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Sash! posted:

I just want to cut to the chase and the top 40 schools basically just license their names to professional teams of 18-23 year olds playing four years contracts with an option for a fifth under the right circumstances.

Down with this.

Basically this is what Ralph Nader proposed a while back wasn't it?

# ¿ Mar 24, 2015 22:45

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Deteriorata posted:

And in contrast you steadfastly refuse to acknowledge any consequences to your pet position because they're inconvenient to your argument.

So Det, other arguments aside, do you really think that removing commercialization from college athletics has any hope to ever actually occur? I can't envision a scenario where a major university would even attempt it.

# ¿ Mar 24, 2015 22:47

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Deteriorata posted:

The issue is not having the money, but where the money comes from. When their money comes from playing their sport, that's who gets their attention. Classes become an inconvenient side show, leading to ever more no-effort classes or grade-fixing to the point where they finally just dump it completely.

It has happened numerous times in the past. I'm curious as to why you think this time is different.

Do you have any examples more recent than 1905? (And no this isn't a 'Det is old' joke).

# ¿ Mar 24, 2015 22:52

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Deteriorata posted:

I'm not sure the NCAA is capable of dealing with it or if it's going to require a more powerful government-run organization to rein it in. The current situation is not sustainable, though, so something needs to be done about it soon.

Well we agree about that much for certain. Thanks for posting the info.

I think for me, and probably some of the others that don't agree with you, it feels like the system should just be killed off rather than trying to fix it. You'd end up with some sort of University branded semi-pro system of athletes operating separately and then go back to having sports operate within the University at a club level which is a lot more conducive to the idealized / traditional version of 'student athlete' that top programs really have now.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2015 03:05

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Spacemonkey57 posted:

Pretty sure they do that every year. When I went to Ohio State for football camp under Cooper they had the Rose Bowl on there. They should have put the Citrus Bowl on there instead.

Actual football question - why does Georgia always lose to one bad team per season?

DUI suspensions usually.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2015 13:55

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Thermos H Christ posted:

Well I am. The Texas gameday experience blows hard, and I think Det has a point in there somewhere. I could see myself putting up with whatever inconvenience to make it to the games and dropping some cash in the collection plate if I was feeling the love, but as it is at DKR you are unmistakably the customer. And if they're gonna treat me like a customer I will treat them like a business and stay the gently caress away until they give me an experience that's worth the price they charge for it. I sure as gently caress don't donate to my local businesses, even the ones I really like.

I'm told they're considering bringing DJ Mel in as a stadium DJ, which would make us a ringer for best music selection in the country if they would give him a free hand but I basically guarantee they are going to have him playing the same tired old jock jams. I'm already mourning this massive missed opportunity to do something genuinely cool and reflective of the amazing city that Austin is.

With you on that. I have a hell of a lot more fun tailgating outside DKR, getting drunk and watching the game under a tent outside while eating ribs and getting hammered.

# ¿ Mar 26, 2015 14:37

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Alouicious posted:

those are almost literally just the LA Tech uniforms wth

the only real difference is the helmets which are way sicker, i'll say

No way the tech logo is pretty rad

# ¿ Mar 28, 2015 22:48

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Fluffdaddy posted:

Just the National Guard

# ¿ Apr 1, 2015 22:17

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Crotch Bat posted:

If your football team was a currency what would it be.

Hoarded Libertarian gold. Has real value but is useless in the present.

(U Texas)

# ¿ Apr 2, 2015 14:39

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Sash! posted:

There's a beardo playing poo poo guitar while his unattractive hippie girlfriend is being a terrible singer in the place I went for lunch so I feel like I'm getting the Austin experience right now

poo poo now he's mumbly talk singing and whistling

While there are a lot of annoying things about Austin the music quality you will randomly encounter is quite often extremely good.

# ¿ Apr 2, 2015 18:00

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Numlock posted:

Austin is a text book case of some place that gets trendy for some reason and is immediately flooded by idiots who ruin whatever made the place trendy to begin with.

Yup

# ¿ Apr 3, 2015 15:03

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

LeeMajors posted:

Charleston is another example of this, but replace 'idiots' with 'Ohioans.'

Actually, in many cases, they are interchangeable.

Austin started with Ohioans who were mostly alright. Things really started to get lovely when the California people came in after 2007 or so.

Before then it was mostly midwestern people kind of having a good time and marveling about how it was a nice place and they were happy to be there. After that it was nothing but table after table at my local bar full of people talking about how "this is alright but the food/beer/service in CA was so much better" etc etc

# ¿ Apr 3, 2015 17:20

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Neil Armbong posted:

Yeah, the influx of people moving here from CA and NY in search of a lower cost of living and jobs during the recession is when Austin started blowing up, drastically increasing the cost of living. Recently bought a house, but holy gently caress, anything worth a drat gets up to like, 20 offers, some cash from out of town buyers.

I could go on and on, but poo poo is changing, and in the midst of it, it's hard to know whether or not for the better.

I lived there from 2005 to 2011 and come back to visit once a year. I think it's gotten a lot worse personally. I loved it when I was there but I'm 100% certain I wouldn't move back even with a good job offer. The traffic alone (which was bad when I left) is now so bad that it just makes doing much of anything hugely problematic.

To avoid too much of a derail, UT hired Shaka Smart from VCU for basketball so now we have Coach Strong and Coach Smart. Waiting for some horrible athletic department posters to show up.

# ¿ Apr 3, 2015 18:06

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Alouicious posted:

skeletons are often afraid of black knights, especially one's carrying maces or clubs.

The best extension

# ¿ Apr 7, 2015 17:18

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

MourningView posted:

there is no way you were really THAT invested in Illinois football, come on. I've been to that stadium. Y'all don't care at all. Deep down you don't really want to cheer for a team who could reasonably refer to a team coached by Ron Zook as "the good days" anyway. Roll Tide.

Man while this is true there are just things that we shouldn't really say out loud you know?

# ¿ Apr 7, 2015 19:26

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Pakled posted:

GT's B-Back situation got worse.

Quaide Weimerskirch, our early enrollee who was expected to get some significant playing time next year, injured his foot and is out for the rest of the Spring and questionable for the season. After some shuffling around, our depth at B-Back is now C.J. Leggett, a converted LB, and two walk-ons.

There are rumors that we're getting a transfer B-Back, though. No names yet, though speculation is that former Kentucky RB Josh Clemons fits the bill. He supposedly is looking to transfer somewhere close to his family in Fayetteville, GA and he looks like he's got the skills we need, just an unlucky streak with injuries. If he is indeed transferring here, and can learn the system and not get hurt, then I think he'd be a good addition. I'd certainly feel more comfortable with him than with what we've currently got. Anyone know more about Clemons?

I've heard that B-back is pretty risky and that you should wrap that up.

# ¿ Apr 7, 2015 19:32

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Thermos H Christ posted:

I... I wore maroon in the student section at some A&M games out of love for a woman and for college football. I must live with this decision every day of my life. I drew the line at singing the song.

You're dead to me

# ¿ Apr 7, 2015 19:47

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

My favorite Gator story is the time they got curbstomped in Baton Rouge coming in ranked #1 in 1996. That game owned owned owned.

In all honesty though I grew up with / around gators and hunted them a fair bit. Pretty dumb overall. In Louisiana you don't see the problems that Florida has with them because American Alligators overall are pretty scared of people. In a natural setting they would only attack a human if you were near a nest / mother. Florida has more of an issue because they developed right into / over their habitats more than we have so you get random gators popping up in golf courses, swimming pools, backyards.

I play rugby with a guy from Australia and after swapping large reptile stories it's apparent that Saltwater crocs are like the worst things in the world and are bigger meaner gator deathmachines.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2015 16:43

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

LeeMajors posted:

This was the worst day ever. I remember being all like "Pshhh Tebow is an overrated little bitch who is about to get dominated by a sick nasty LSU defe- :stare:

# ¿ Apr 10, 2015 17:15

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Sash! posted:

We're far enough from football that I can say that Hack gonna throw for 5000 yards and PSU going to be the first 15-0 team of the modern era and it still seems possible

By September, I'll be down to 3000 and 9-4.

And 7-6 by December :v:

# ¿ Apr 16, 2015 02:53

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Ping!

# ¿ Apr 16, 2015 21:48

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

C2C - 2.0 posted:

No one should feel "pretty conflicted" about any apparel that displays "gently caress Ole Miss".

Right on

# ¿ Apr 17, 2015 00:29

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Zypher posted:

Augie is 76; he's been rumored to retire since I was in school.

Gotcha. Like you said, a lot of that started under Deloss (hello, taking all the excitement out of Godzillatron with ads) so I'm surprised anti-Patterson is already so high when he's doing a great job at hiring coaches.

Announcing season ticket prices increasing while the product on the field is still bad and the program posts record profit has a little to do with it.

And yeah the game day experience inside DKR blows now. Loud rear end commercials basically all the time when plays aren't running.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2015 00:12

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# ¿ May 11, 2024 19:17

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Thermos H Christ posted:

Hey, we hate you, how's about you donate some money?

"Also Swoopes is gonna start again."

# ¿ Apr 22, 2015 13:51

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