randombattle posted:

http://www.mmo-troll.com/carbine-and-ncsoft-take-a-hard-stand-on-wildstar-promise-never-to-go-free-to-play/

Would they really LIE to us?

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Another Carbine source was a bit more… militant… when it comes to the subject of ‘Free-to-Play':

“Free-to-Play is for games that suck, or have failed, and that’s that! ‘Wildstar’ does not suck, nor has it failed, so we won’t be going Free-to-Play. If any MMORPG deserves to be run as a subscription-only service, it is ‘Wildstar’, and if players can’t see that, then they are f*****g blind! If ten million morons are willing to pay subscriptions to play ‘World of Warcraft’, there is no reason why the millions of intelligent, discerning players out there would not jump to do the same to play ‘Wildstar’!”

mulodyne posted:

goon delusion over bad mmos will continue until the heat death of the universe at which point the void will say 'hey i could use like 250 bucks to make my hardcore pvp voxel mmo' and someone will say 'yeah that sounds good' back

Anatharon posted:

If by intern you mean third world child sweatshop labourer, I'd believe you.

I can't wait until they add stunning new innovations like flexible raid sizes. Surely with that sort of thing they'll overtake WoW!

Anatharon posted:

There is a crucial flaw in your reasoning.

Thumbtacks posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEUmGnzkQ1k

what a fun boss

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

Like, FFXIV is quite literally the same thing as wow but with a new engine and better in a lot of ways.

Belzac posted:

Out of the first 4 bosses in Ulduar 3 of them had the same thing so .

Failboattootoot posted:

And Ifrit, Garuda, Ramuh, Titan if you count the heart as an add which is a little silly but whatever. Cloud of Darkness in WoD. Glasya Labelas and Xande in Syrcus. Vassago in Lota. Chrysalis. I will refrain from going into the 5 man dungeons but it is a mechanic that happens a lot.

Thunderbro posted:

No.

Unlucky7 posted:

What is this about a bot ban? Color me interested, I love schadenfreude l as much as the next goon.

Father Wendigo posted:

I'm sorry, this is above and beyond what I expected from MMO drama. This is now the most enjoyable game I've never played.

Cyron posted:

really? Because i heard timewalker is poorly added atm it weekly and the rewards are meh.

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The subscription model isn't the problem... millions of players are willing to pay monthly for a game they like.

The game isn't the problem... look how much praise the game gets from being great and improved.

So what does that leave? I'm not going to say it.

sword_man.gif posted:

actually if you listen to those people they "didn't do it right" because you don't have the old spells which explicitly countered that poo poo

which i guess is true for the curses. and nothing else. because raid design back then was a 30 minute duration curse that made you receive 50% less healing or some poo poo

Byolante posted:

http://imgur.com/iDb22v9

Thunderbro posted:

WoW had to squish stats solely because boss health was running up against the 32-bit integer limit.

Just take that in.

They meticulously reduced the numbers on all the gear in the entire game, and all health across every single enemy ever made, purely so they could lower DPS and buy a couple years' time to try and upgrade the integer format used to store boss health. Player health and healing is already back to the exact same levels they were at when they ran up against that 2 billion limit, player damage output is literally the only thing that's still lower. That's how bad their code is.

Thunderbro posted:

The numbers weren't the problem, just the hilariously bad backend. And no, they're ramping up just as fast. WoW DPS has already reached the starting point it was at in MoP.

CoffeeBooze posted:

I feel kind of bad for mocking someone who is clearly suffering from some rather debilitating mental illness, but for some bizarre reason Franbunny has posted a picture of her teeth on Reddit. It is just too weird not to share with this thread. She even wears a Wildstar t-shirt in the pictures! How's that for free publicity?

For the curious: http://imgur.com/a/PKJZb

Flesh Forge posted:

This is standard girl presentation in just about every video game I've ever seen except vanilla Everquest, in which you could be a great big fat woman with blue eye shadow and rouged cheeks. Absolutely nothing else was good about that game but in the "Can I Be A Fat Ugly Woman" category it will forever reign supreme

Anniversary posted:

So, uh, how much am I going to regret talking a friend into trying this out with me now that the keys are practically free?

sword_man.gif posted:

you forgot the legendary attunement and the following 20 weeks of increasing it's ilvl 3 at a time

Tenzarin posted:

There was never anything to do in wow but raiding, since when did this change? Its been that way since vanilla.

Minsky posted:

The "apexis grind" in WoD that most people hate involves basically doing something once per day in a random area, and that something is "kill any 50 monsters and/or click 25 things until your progress bar has filled up". The reward for doing this is 800 apexis crystals which is a generally useless currency, because you either buy gear that is worse than crafted gear or hoard a huge pile of it to purchase a lame mount. Apexis crystals also trickle in from a few other sources related to your garrison, or from grinding even more monsters in those same areas, but what's described above is roughly about it for the primary non-raiding non-garrison mission PVE end-game content.

Normal Adult Human posted:

Valor had int

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Counterpoint:

Asimo posted:

The great and horrible secret of Blizzard is that, for whatever reason, they absolutely hate player-driven cosmetic customization. Look at how staggeringly limited the options for creating a character are in WoW for example. Some of this is due to the age of the game sure, but there were games before it (like CoH) and basically every game after it that offered an order of magnitude more options. They added gear customization, but only years later and in the most limited and begruding fashion. And there's lots of little things like that, to the point that Garrisons basically have little to no useful cosmetic customization. I'm not even sure why they're like that; maybe there's some quiet agreement with the art staff that they think their handmade stuff is good enough, maybe there's management who thinks it's too much effort for too nebulous a return, whatever. But it is what it is. There's a lot of really smart and inventive designers at Blizzard, but they're still a horribly conservative company when there's no pressure to advance.

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Tenzarin posted:

Last good wow dungeons were cataclysm heroics.

Byolante posted:

WoW introduced randomised secondary stats and warforged items which is equally as bad so here we are.

Byolante posted:

Both. Speed is actually a direct dps increase because you can stack it to the point where you can replace your boot enchant with a pure dps one. Also unbudgeting sockets then adding them was garbage too. This introduces loot distribution issues when a dagger drops with a socket and 2 rogues want it but one already has the unsocketed version. Adding in the worry of a lockout actually makes it worse because the less times you will see a drop. Something like a warforged immersius trinket for instance could cause all the drama in the world.

BigPaddy posted:

Pandemic but with the undead plague.

Saxophone posted:

Hooooly poo poo. Seriously? How can you possibly go from Blizz to Wildstar? I literally cannot fathom any possible reason. Hell at least the people on the inside of Carbine have the sipping the flavor-aid too long excuse. But you can literally watch this thing sink.

Bust Rodd posted:

I know you are but what am I.

Stop posting yourself, stop posting yourself, stop posting yourself

<Wedgies>
*Flush*

Bust Rodd posted:

Ugh, I tried to buy a lifetime sub so I can start grinding rep for space cupcake recipes but it's moving to F2P. I guess I'll just have to buy as many house plants and hats for my dude as possible.

Saxophone, you strike me as a goon of good humors. Would you care for to escort me on my WILDSTARS ESCASPACECAPADES?

Holyshoot posted:

The only thing you're missing out on are the 3 jobs you don't get to play until you're level 50 and have completed the story line up to Heavensward. What you're saying is "I want to buy wow and start at level 1 and have access to garisons and alternate outland right away".

Flesh Forge posted:

Still not getting why this is OK either, other than just because it's traditionally mandatory.

Xavier434 posted:

Well there needs to be some sense of progression. It just doesn't need to revolve around increasing power through numbers. Call it whatever you want.

Saxophone posted:

But the new mercenary system puts the goofy Halloween masks on your character to give them impression that he's the proper faction and totally serious enough for Warcraft.

Rorus Raz posted:

Cross-faction in WoW would probably turn all the invisible rabbits in Ragnaroses and destroy the game.

I wonder what their churn on programmers is like. I just can't imagine working on that game's gordian knot of code for that long.

Ghostcrawler posted:

Can I ask you, how much has the WoW team changed since WotLK?
Not much. The leadership team stayed virtually the same the whole time I was there. Some folks went to Titan and several came back. The team was growing the entire time so you always saw a lot of new faces, but they were additions, not replacements. Reading between the lines a bit, I don't think this is one of those deals where some kind of new team radically evolved the philosophy. Blizzard turnover, even between teams, is very low by industry standards.

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For example, the Tanaan Jungle casual content in the current patch was actually planned to be in at the expansion's release

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

Actually wow finally hit upon something with the "you can only wear 3 pieces of crafted gear at a time, but that gear is as good as 99% of the content will ever give you" so it makes it easier to get a decent piece of gear in slots that are traditionally annoying, like a second weapon for fury (or both weapons, or just weapons in general for everyone). You also don't need to even have the craft to get the items, you can make a garrison building and put a follower in it to be your profession bitch, and all the materials will eventually poop out of your garrison except for felblight, which is just for the last two upgrades.

They're also probably going to throw it right out because blizzard doesn't iterate on something when they stumble across a good idea, so