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The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

Lemon Curdistan posted:

She's going to meet with one economic block's leader in particular, the old dude who looks like a Buddhist monk, who is Arbrau's leader. This is because the region of Mars that she and CGS are from belongs to Arbrau specifically...

...Per Teiwaz' boss, Arbrau granting real independence to their part of Mars is likely to ignite a wave of similar decolonisation movements and cause open war between the economic blocks by destabilising the already-fragile peace on Earth.
In particular, I got the impression that the important point is that she's doing an end-run around Gjallarhorn to speak with one of the Earth blocs directly, when a big part of how Gjallarhorn has enforced peace for the past few centuries is that they played go-between on any international and inter-sphere issues and prevented the powers from making deals on the side. One of the blocs attempting to independently carry out foreign policy is thus a direct challenge to the entire post-war system.

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The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans - A Love that Crushes Like a Mace

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

AradoBalanga posted:

Except he then ditched the mace after about 2 minutes and went back to the sword (and the preview shows Mika continuing to use the sword).

Stop letting the model kit department dictate your weapons loadout, Mika! :mad:
To be fair, it was kind of stuck in another Mobile Suit's torso. Getting weapons unstuck from corpses generally isn't a thing you have time for during a fight.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

Sazabi posted:

Maybe when they get scrapped they'll get reincarnated into something even more traumatizing cute like how Acguy was reincarnated into Bearguy

They're getting sold to the new Full Metal Panic anime as spare parts for Rk-92 Savages.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
Kind of wonder where Savarin's going to go from here, assuming this isn't the last we see of him.

Also looks like not-Jerid is going to lose yet another superior next episode.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

Kanos posted:

If I had to pick something I haven't liked about the buildup it's this. Having a massive core pillar of Gjallarhorn be so nakedly comic book villain evil is less interesting than if the organization as a whole was still salvageable but was riddled with bad apples like Coral.
This is pretty much Strikebreaking 101 from a century ago, though. Except in IRL they didn't bother with false flag poo poo.

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Then again I'm not entirely sure why Gjallarhorn is jackbooting economic protesters because I was under the impression that most economic interests like the Dort colonies would be under control of the power blocs and thus subject to the power bloc's brutal fascist police crackdowns.
Their entire regime is built on them having an absolute monopoly on violence off of Earth's surface. They can't allow the blocs to bring the sort of weaponry they'd need to efficiently massacre dissidents onto the colonies.

Now the question is whether they bother to retake the other colony cylinders by force or they just evacuate all the air and let everyone suffocate.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

galagazombie posted:

Kind of ruined the tension though when the next episode preview showed gjallahorn letting them pass through when the cliffhanger has them asking "How will we get through?"

Yeah, because the show was totally going to have everyone die in episode 18.

AradoBalanga posted:

Clearly Kudelia is about to roll a 20 and a crit on her diplomacy check.
Kinda sorta? My guess is it's more like "letting her and her escorts pass safely through our blockade would be bad, but shooting them now that it makes it obvious to everyone we have something to hide would be even worse".

Once her speech started broadcasting to the entirety of the Earth Sphere, Gjallarhorn lost its chance to simply disappear Kudelia or have her killed in the confusion of battle. Killing her now would just prove her right about whatever she says in her speech.

It also doesn't help Gjallarhorn that McGillis can probably sabotage their normal information control attempts regarding her, or that Nobliss has decided that she's currently more useful alive than dead and is thus putting his figurative and literal weight behind keeping her that way.

On a different subject, I wonder what's happening with the part of Tekkadan that was left on Mars? We haven't heard anything from or about them in a while. Maybe they're going to be the subject of a side-story manga or something?

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

Darth Walrus posted:

I was just thinking - how would Ein react if Norba killed Gaelio with the Ryusei-Go?

Can... can the human body even contain that much rage?

He'd finally achieve it: the legendary Super Salty.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

Midjack posted:

Edit: also, does anybody in Tekkadan besides Kudelia know that Fumitan was a traitor?

Cao Ni Ma posted:

I dont think so.
Probably helps that, unless I missed something, the only one she was actually betraying was Kudelia herself. She wasn't informed about the whole "get Tekkadan to unknowingly smuggle in weapons which will be used to provide an excuse to massacre protestors" bit.

On that note, I liked the little touches at the end of the episode (the offering left at her station, the student writing her name). Kudelia isn't the only one who misses her. :unsmith:

I also liked Mika's initial reaction when Atra told him to comfort Kudelia. I think that's the first time we've heard uncertainty in his voice in the entire series. :3:

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
Ein will only go crazy if they give him the Gundam Caim. :colbert:

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
The worst part will be when someone has to tell Cookie and Cracker.

Also, Mika's going to have to step up and start thinking for himself, because with Biscuit dead he's the only one in a position to play Kircheis to Orga's Reinhard.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

BizarroAzrael posted:

Is anyone else having a problem getting the new episode to play on Daisuke? It seems to just buffer forever.

In my case, I tried watching on Hulu, only to find that the subs weren't there. With closed captions set to "on", mind you.

Otherwise, I agree that they really needed a shot of Carta's subordinate dragging her suit away from a stunned Mika.

Very much liked Kudelia's show of competence.

Vaguely amused that "McGillis" is his first name.

Definitely hoping this gets a second season. There's just no way I can think of a satisfying ending they can pull together in the next few episodes, especially when it feels more like Tekkadan finishing their mission will be the catalyst that kicks off the war that's been brewing since the first episode.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

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So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

Gaj posted:

The true barbarity of Mika is the trail of disabled vets he leaves in his path. Hes must be over burdening Gjallerhorn's VA.
I think Ein's the only disabled vet he's left in his path.

Now, Gjallarhorn's janitors, those guys are cursing his name every time they have to scrub out a cockpit before the techs can rebuild the mobile suit.

Also, assuming we get a season two, here's a batshit insane idea I had while thinking about the whole "Biscuit and Fumitan died, so who's next from that frame in the end credits" thing: Kudelia will die, Atra will take up her role as leader of the revolution.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

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So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

ImpAtom posted:

You know, I do have to wonder.

Why the hell didn't Gaelio just blow up the train tracks on his way out or get someone to do it? I mean Carta didn't do it because Honorable Duel but that went out the window, no reason not to. I guess he was kinda panicked but they've got a while to go down the line.

Because he was prioritizing getting Carta the gently caress out of there. It didn't help, but...

As for why McGillis is probably setting Gaelio up to die rather than bringing him into the "fix Gjallarhorn" scheme, it's because he expects Gaelio to balk at the sort of dishonorable poo poo necessary to carry out any such scheme.

Also, while I'm reticent to get too much into the whole "comparing to other Gundam shows" thing, I'm honestly at a loss for whether there's been an uglier death than Carta's. Manipulated into a hopeless fight, her last subordinates die horribly in front of her, she and her mobile suit are brutally beaten in a fight where she was dominated from start to finish, she's reduced to begging for help as she watches her enemy prepare to finish her off, and then she dies while the man who tried to save her tells her he's the man who (unbeknownst to both of them) sent her out to die.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
As brutal as that episode was, I can't help but imagine Makanai just kind of sitting there strapped in upside-down in the car at the end, waiting for someone to remember that he's there.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

Darth Walrus posted:

The second Ein statuette is either going to be enormous or very, very small.

It'll have detachable limbs.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

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So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

KoB posted:

I hope they keep the emphasis on sick axes and maces and chainsaw things instead of dumb beamspam like every other gundam.

:black101:

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

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So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
For real Season Two spoiler: Gundam Caim shows up and murders loving everything.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

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WUB!

bman in 2288 posted:

Will it be riding a Gundum Angelus, a-la G Gundam?

That goes without saying.

Even better, Mika already killed the local Inuart!

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

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WUB!

Caphi posted:

Mobile Suits are robots and Normal Suits are space suits, so what do you call those?

Business suits.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

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Gaelio was sympathetic largely because of how the last few episodes dismantled him, culminating in McGillis explaining exactly how badly he'd been used right before killing him.

He was utterly out of his depth by the end (much like Carta), and his final moments were him out-Garmaing Garma. It was a bit excessive when his main crime was never stepping outside his privileged background.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

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So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
So is there anyone else in Gundam who's as big a bastard as McGillis?

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The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

MonsterEnvy posted:

Lets not forgot him transforming Ein into a horrible abomination. (While tricking Ein's friend into letting him do it. Under the pretense of it just being medical help.) Just so it would cause uproar about Gallarhorn being willing to do that to it's soldiers.

I didn't notice that much difference.

Well, okay, he was actually able to win a fight.

...although he still failed to kill anyone, so I guess he stayed a fuckup right to the end after all.

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