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The apex of this period is 1832. Three slaveowners (maybe four, I can't find information about what William Wirt thought about slavery, but I don't think the "Anti-Masonic Party" was going to get the votes anyway.)
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I wonder if people will vote for the left-wing Populists when they come up considering that their great champion Thomas E. Watson "is now and will ever be a fearless advocate of the Jeffersonian Theory of Popular Government, and will oppose to the bitter end the Hamiltonian Doctrines of Class Rule, Moneyed Aristocracy, National Banks, High Tariffs, Standing Armies and formidable Navies — all of which go together as a system of oppressing the people."
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UberJew posted:depends on whether he thinks its totally fine to keep african americans oppressed because they aren't 'the people' I'm only interested in the 1896 elections, before the Populists withered. quote:The People's Party advocated the public ownership of the railroads, steamship lines, and telephone and telegraph systems. It also supported the free and unlimited coinage of silver, the abolition of national banks, a system of graduated income tax and the direct election of United States Senators. As a Populist, Watson tried to unite the agrarians across class lines, overcoming racial divides. He also supported the right of black men to vote. It could have been yours. Also the biggest inheritor of the Hamiltonian ideology in the short term will be Henry Clay. But I don't think he's going to win in 1824. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_School_(economics)#Advocacy Corek has issued a correction as of 01:17 on Jan 5, 2016 |
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karmicknight posted:"With the shear weight of the socialist nation we have made, Strom Thurmond is a funny blip, rather than inhuman gently caress-up." why not both like George Fitzhugh Wikipedia posted:Sociology for the South, or, the Failure of Free Society (1854) was George Fitzhugh's most powerful attack on the philosophical foundations of free society. In it, he took on not only Adam Smith,[11] the foundational thinker of capitalism, but also John Locke,[12] Thomas Jefferson, and the entire liberal tradition. He argued that free labor and free markets enriched the strong while crushing the weak.[13] What society needed, he wrote, was slavery, not just for blacks, but for whites as well. "Slavery," he wrote, "is a form, and the very best form, of socialism."[14] "Socialism," he continued:
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What I think is unusual is that there is no 100% pro-slavery candidate here, certainly at least not on the level Andrew Jackson would soon be.
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QuoProQuid posted:Clinton has also gently thanked the country for delivering him the extremely capable Daniel D. Tompkins to the Vice Presidency. Hopefully, Tompkins will visit Washington, D.C. at least once to attend the Inauguration. Tompkins for eternal VP. edit: quote:Monroe’s Vice President, Daniel Tompkins, died less than three months into his presidency as a universally unpopular man. 
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Also wasn't Calhoun Adams' VP pick as well? He ended up being vice president, and on Wikipedia (I know) it says directly that Adams supporters put him on the ticket.
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Platystemon posted:Calhoun is so bad that he makes me want to vote for the Clay/Sanford ticket. It's the only true Hamiltonian ticket.
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Cthulhu Dreams posted:Sanford looks less terrible than the rest of the VP situation but Clay seems awful. In real life Clay became an Adams Man after the election. It wasn't his last party shift.
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SpRahl posted:Im predicting an Anti Masonic Party upset for that. Wild Willie Wirt is the only non-slavelover of the bunch, so I agree. (he's also not a Natural Born Citizen, but I digress) Corek has issued a correction as of 00:48 on Jan 25, 2016 |
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Lord of Pie posted:lol that the anti-Masonic party picks a Mason for their candidate though The vice presidential candidate of the Nullifiers was not a Nullifier. Just a guy from Massachusetts who didn't like tariffs.
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SpRahl posted:That didn't stop Chester Arthur Also Albert Gallatin was a vice presidential candidate even though he was born in Switzerland to Swiss parents and immigrated to America as an adult. (Nathaniel Macon replaced him by the time of the election though)
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GlyphGryph posted:Why couldn't we have elected Paine as President For Life? ENGLISHMAN thomas paine
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QuoProQuid posted:Presidential Nominee: Henry Lee Is this guy even a real person?
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QuoProQuid posted:He's a historical footnote of a historical footnote, but he does exist. Oh, I forgot that South Carolina still awarded its votes from the legislature. No wonder somebody who didn't know he was running for vice president could get the votes from there.
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Unfortunately we will have to wait for Hubert Humphrey for someone with chemistry experience to vote for.
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There will be more Adamses to vote for in 1848 (Free Soil) and 1872 (Bourbon Democrat).
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karmicknight posted:If only Martin Van Buren was running on his lonesome, with the corpse of whoever beat Jackson to the nomination, obviously. Just wait until Van Buren/Adams run on an abolitionist platform
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QuoProQuid posted:And, for those of you paying attention, Mother Bank is vomiting into Aaron Burr's Manhattan Bank, which will eventually become a central pillar of the modern JPMorgan Chase & Co. Burr killing Hamilton again 
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karmicknight posted:Vermont The current governor of Vermont, William A. Palmer, is an Anti-Mason. It hasn't had a Federalist (or former Federalist) governor since 1815.
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QuoProQuid posted:As an aside, I don't think I have ever hated a party as much as the Whigs with their "hey, let's run six competing tickets in a first past the post system and see what happens" strategy. The best thing is Van Buren won a majority of the popular vote anyway so it literally did nothing.
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Popero posted:Three cheers for Webster, New England's native son! He only actually ran in New England. Harrison ran in all other New England states.
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QuoProQuid posted:For those of you with any interest in American history, the History Channel will be airing their new show, Join or Die tonight at 11:00/10:00c. The show stars former Late Late Show host, Craig Ferguson, and a random panel of historians, talking heads, and comedians as they discuss a particular historical topic. The first episode's topic is, "Worst political blunders," so stay tuned to see whether they discuss the Hartford Convention or Alexander Hamilton's ill-conceived crusade against John Adams. The Hartford Convention: when secession was a Northern, Yankee idea
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Polk actually ordered the envoy negotiating mexican cessions to get more, possibly much more, than what they actually annexed. But the guy just didn't care and settled for "pretty borders" like any self-respecting Paradox player. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Trist
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lambeth posted:Considering that Thomas Morris is unlikely to make it, I think Birney should keep a second VP candidate in mind. Perhaps that firebrand Pennsylvanian lawyer, Thaddeus Stevens? Stevens actually supported Clay this year (and Taylor in four years).
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foobardog posted:Actually, I think I figured out how to tie our decisions with the reset of the timeline. We're a dark cabal that makes its decisions and attempts to see that man elected, but... we're awful at actually doing it. The Keystone Kops of secret organizations. Half the third-party dudes do not actually even want the office it seems
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Also being a "dark cabal" doesn't jive with our opinion on Freemasons.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Well, I am sold. 
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I will gladly take the opportunity to vote in another Adams, stop slavery, and defeat  himself.
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QuoProQuid posted:I'm really looking forward to see who goons vote for between Grover "probable rapist" Cleveland and James "nakedly corrupt" Blaine. MAW MAW WHERES MY PAW
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In 1880 the Prohibition Party was the only party not to support Chinese Exclusion. ^ Also, the VP candidate's middle name was Adams. 
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Wikipedia posted:The 19th Amendment, which gave women the right to vote, did not pass until 1920. Yet, in 1869, the Prohibition Party became the first to accept women as party members[4] and even gave women who attended its first national convention full delegate rights. This was the first time any party had afforded women this right.[5] These women “spoke from the floor, entered debates, introduced resolutions, and voted on the party platform.”[6] Women’s suffrage appeared on the Prohibition Party platform in 1872. In 1892, the platform included the idea of equal pay for equal work. By contrast, women’s suffrage did not appear on the platform of either the Democratic or Republican platform until 1916. The Woman’s Christian Temperance Union (WCTU), which later became instrumental in the passage of the 18th Amendment, started out as the women’s branch of the Prohibition Party. It went on to become more influential than the party itself. It was, “the largest women’s organization of the nineteenth century and the heart of the organized demand for prohibition and women’s rights as well as for prison and labor reform, for public support for neglected children, and for peace – in short for a transformed society dedicated to social justice."[5]
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Someone should edit Kelly's "Whiskey Sours" so Kelly in the corner is saying this is a bad thing and to vote Prohibition.
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WrightOfWay posted:If Webster hadn't died would he have been on two tickets? Yeah. Bryan in 1896 did a similar thing while being alive.
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Communist Zombie posted:What the hell was their party planks or reason for existing? Im guessing something to do with the Kansas-Nebraska act? Yep. Lincoln was one. It became the Republicans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Nebraska_movement
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Winfield Scott lived so long that he began to serve with people named after him (Winfield Scott Hancock) already by the Mexican-American War.
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It's hilarious that James Buchanan is the very last ex-Federalist we can vote for.Empress Theonora posted:Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Speech, Free Men, Fremont, Freemasons. Oh, Buchanan and Breckenridge are both active Freemasons too.
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SlothfulCobra posted:After this, we've just got one more election until the Union gets reborn as something new where there isn't the question of whether the country will fall apart at the drop of a pin, and politicians no longer um and er and waffle over slavery. I can't wait for the endless gold/silver issues to baffle us (because we'll just slam that Socialist button instead)
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Fun fact: the Greenbacks ran Union-Confederate veteran unity tickets two elections in a row
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We probably need a new title now that Clay, Calhoun, and the whole Jackson generation are now gone.
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