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The Insect Court posted:That would require anti-Zionists actually acknowledging the existence of Israeli victims of terrorism. You're right, the murder they were celebrating is much MUCH more disturbing than the stabbing of the effigy. Thank you for taking time to rightfully condemn those monstrous settlers who could do that to such a nice young family.
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XMNN posted:hi insect boy do you acknowledge that the idf has committed war crimes eg during their recent mowing the grass campaigns yes or no He's yet to answer a direct question yet, dont see why he'd start now when he has so many strawman questions to answer instead.
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The Insect Court posted:Well of course it did. All war is crime hth
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The Insect Court posted:'is it ok to murder innocent people' Who do you think murders more innocent people every year, the IDF or Palestinian militants?
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Ultramega posted:You're too late, sorry. Peace and harmony now reign in the land of Israel and Palestine and nothing bad ever happened again between any devotees of the abrahamic faiths. Wrap it up and make an India/Pakistan thread then?
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Jul 28, 2016 11:17
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Kim Jong Il posted:The solution isn't hard. If you don't want apartheid, unilaterally start treating Palestinians like humans. It shouldn't have anything to do with the religion, it's no excuse whatsoever for anything less than basic humanity.
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GaussianCopula posted:I hope Israel will crack down on these terrorist attacks and especially everyone who supports them. Selective outrage is a hell of a drug
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Jul 22, 2017 01:52
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hakimashou posted:I think a lot of people are uncomfortable with boycotts of Israel not because "the europeans are boycotting jewish businesses" but because "the europeans are boycotting jewish businesses again." Woah, this is gonna be really embarrassing for you but someone has to break the news. Not all Jewish people are Israeli. And since Israel surely isn't some kind of colonial apartheid state...
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Jul 22, 2017 06:01
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GaussianCopula posted:So does the BDS movement request the Arab countries to respect the rights of Jews? Its not like Israel or any other nation would ever respect some sort of 'birthright' to return to where one's kin is from No sirree, no precedent for that anywhere at all nope
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Jul 22, 2017 11:13
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GaussianCopula posted:So, just that I understand this, there is no birthright for Israelis, Germans, Poles (or any other displaced people after several wars) but for the Palestinians there is because ~reasons~? Oh boy, are you sure you are familiar enough with this topic? "No birthright" is a pretty hilarious misunderstanding on your part of how the Israeli government handles immigration and refugees. edit: it's race theory, thats how they handle immigration 420 Gank Mid fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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Jul 22, 2017 21:24
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hakimashou posted:What is the big deal about putting metal detectors at the entrance to the mosque anyway? Yeah why do religious groups get so uppity once you impose COMMON SENSE regulations on them like barring them from their places of worship and treating them like criminals guilty of the sins of their neighbors, grandfathers and cousins?
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Jul 22, 2017 21:57
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Kim Jong Il posted:Whether or not you think that would be a good outcome, it would represent the destruction of Israel as a distinct Jewish state and a Jewish majority state. It's fundamentally a response to 1948, not 1967. It almost certainly would lead to mass ethnic cleansing and hundreds of thousands dead. Not that it ever has a chance of happening, given current geopolitics and the unmitigated failure of BDS to do anything besides cancel a few concerts and academic conferences. Are you trying to say that racial apartheid is a fundamental part of being Jewish? Because that's pretty antisemitic
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Jul 23, 2017 01:12
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Kim Jong Il posted:I thought it was a given among anti-Zionists that Israel was an ethnocentric state? It is, but most states outside of the US, Canada, Australia, etc... are. Whether or not it's a good idea that these exist is open for debate. Is it now? Who exactly is debating the merits of a racial caste system these days other than yourself? Kim Jong Il posted:
is there a  but for nazis?
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Jul 23, 2017 01:20
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Kim Jong Il posted:The Tanakh literally has stories about Hebrews invading Israel and pushing out other tribes. God promises Israel to the Hebrews and demands purity from foreign influences. There's a party in Israel right now called Jewish Home that's centered on implementing this as actual policy. This is not what the majority of Jews believe given that a big portion of the Talmud is why you should ignore certain Tanakh passages, and actually the majority of Jews, including Israelis, don't give a poo poo about religion. The fact is there's enough material to at least give Jewish Home an argument that they're representing "true Judaism." Hrmm, this seems oddly familiar. Which other minor sect in the region is using an incredibly narrow and reactionary interpretation of a popular religion to subvert the public perceptions of the larger religious family? If only there was some way to tell the tiny yet murderous minority apart from the much larger and otherwise sane majority. Oh well, guess we have to treat them all the same and refuse to view the situation with any nuance at all. It's almost like religious extremist xenophobes are....bad....even if they say they're the same religion as YOU!
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hakimashou posted:There will not be a happy ending for the palestinians before they disarm and commit to giving up violence. You are a naive idiot if you think that lying down in the street and watching your home bulldozed by settlers is a happy ending
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Jul 23, 2017 01:59
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Kim Jong Il posted:Of course there's a wide variety of experiences within both, I just think they're frauds, the same for any religion. I'm actually adopting the argument of David Hume here. If you're going to water down the true religion even one iota, you might as well go full atheism. Logic can't be applied to faith, because if it is, that's the only reasonable conclusion. You either need full atheism or full fideism. All religion is unmitigated trash, you just need to say it in a context where it's not used to do things like cudgel people from the Middle East. I didnt know r/Atheism had such a vocal pro-Israel faction
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Jul 23, 2017 19:45
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qkkl posted:Well maybe they should try a different plan. If I were Palestine I would offer an unrealistically generous plan, something like: 420 Gank Mid fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Jul 25, 2017 |
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Jul 25, 2017 08:11
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Disinterested posted:Look if you want to get mad about murdering civilians I'm all for it since Israelis do it 10x as much. No but you see Israelis aren't killing any humans beings, only Palestinians so its A-OK The selective outrage people like Gaussian and qkkl show off just demonstrates their own complete lack of empathy. To them this isnt a problem to be solved because of all the human suffering it has caused in the past half-century. It is an eternal religious war waging since the creation of man to eliminate evil that they must win once and for all via genocide
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Jul 25, 2017 20:18
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Ytlaya posted:But the way Israelis are killing the Palestinians is just more civilized. There's just something different about a Palestinian killing an Israeli that really riles you up! I wonder what that thing could be. The difference is Deus Vult
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Kim Jong Il posted:
Just like every other pro-genocide troll you shut up or run away when people actually point out the massive inconsistencies and inaccuracies in your posts only to come gallivanting back a few weeks later hoping people have forgotten.
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Lady Morgaga posted:Jew racist ISIS apartheid neanderthal Do you have an idea of what any of those words mean?
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Lady Morgaga posted:Seriously? Finally clearcut example? This thread is, and always was, full of lazily barely hidden antisemitism. From various blood libels to blaming [c]Jews[/c] Israel for every problem in the world. This is thread that thinks that stabbing in image of Arab to be much worse then stabbing living Jew. Please point to one such example of blood libel in this thread It was probably that literal Nazi German Gaussian if it was anyone The only time I can even think people talked about poisoning wells is when Israeli settlers literally poisoned a Palestinian well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o2aGCdDiFY like in real life; recently
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qkkl posted:Also the phenomenon of antisemitic Jews is them wanting to assimilate within their communities. They want to paint themselves as the "good Jews" who don't exhibit any of the negative Jewish stereotypes in the hopes that they won't be persecuted. So any Jewish person that doesnt support genocide is an uncle tom now? Just like the "real" muslims are the ones who fly planes into towers and the rest are either deep cover Taqiyya agents or 'fake' muslims No wonder you see antisemitism everywhere you go, its yours.
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Lady Morgaga posted:Maybe. Although antisemites tend to jump on "opposing the Occupation and Israel's ongoing policy of Apartheid " bandwagon very readily. And when you stand shoulder to shoulder with them it will rub off on to you. You could literally swap out your posts with those from any random Free Republic poster and no one would know
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qkkl posted:And is it bad? Lots of first world countries have participated in eugenics, and they did it for practical purposes. In Israel's case it was deemed necessary because culturally Ethiopians believed that having lots of kids was good, even if you couldn't support them. This belief is incompatible with Israel's desire to be a first world country. One could argue that teaching kids from a young age that it's bad to have kids that you can't support is a form of eugenics. Yeah guys whats the big deal about eugenics? Dumb libs will whine about anything these days amirite? 1 Samuel 15:2&3 and Hebrews 9:27 amen
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qkkl posted:No, because Ashkenazi couples could either support their children themselves, or had a community that could help them support their children (i.e. a poor father with lots of kids had a rich brother who helped support them). Ethiopian Jews didn't have those things, so if they had lots of children they would have grown up in very poor conditions. Remember that Israel wanted Ethiopian Jews to come to Israel so their lives would be better. Part of making their lives better was making sure they didn't have more kids then they could support. http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/10/eritrean-refugees-israel-uganda-rwanda-161024130201856.html quote:Gebar, for instance, says that he was being held in an immigration detention camp in the Negev Desert called Holot, when, he claims, officials there informed him that he had three options. If he liked, he could stay indefinitely in the camp. A second option was to go back to Eritrea, the country he had fled five years before. Or, he could agree to take $3,500 and depart for a third country of the Israeli government's choosing. quote:Tedros Abrahe, an Eritrean midwife who also left Israel under the "voluntary departures" programme earlier this year, says he is "just waiting to be a legal refugee somewhere". ...But when he arrived, he found that his Eritrean midwifery qualifications were not recognised in Israel, and that the only work available to him as an asylum seeker was an under-the-table job cleaning the kitchen of a Tel Aviv shawarma restaurant. quote:Between 2009 and 2016, Israel granted official refugee status to 0.07 percent of all its Sudanese and Eritrean asylum seekers - a total of four people. quote:According to Interior Minister Gilad Erdan, the voluntary resettlement plan had "encourage[d] infiltrators to leave the borders of the state of Israel honourably and safely". Yeah really looking out for the little guy there. Only democracy in the middle eastTM
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qkkl posted:First generation Ethiopians came from a culture where having a high child mortality was normal, so first generation Ethiopian parents would feel less bad about a child dying from a preventable disease than Haredi parents. Dont you get it people? Their 'culture' turns them into emotionless subhumans not worth our empathy
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emanresu tnuocca posted:So are we're ignoring the whole "Ethiopian Jews" thing and conflating it wholesale with Israel's treatment of African immigrants and refugees? Yeah, there's no way this is part of the same larger problem of Israel being lovely on human rights of migrants and refugees, no siree
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Yeah I'm sure you've even read those articles before you posted them. 
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Laserpig posted:Look, I'm out of this thread, but before I go please allow me to make something clear. 
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Kim Jong Il posted:Israel/Palestine isn't even the biggest example of ethnic cleansing in the region Is this the first time you've explicitly recognized Israeli guilt in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine? I can't keep track of all the different pro-apartheid posters in this thread anymore but congrats on making some small progress comrade.
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Kim Jong Il posted:The US, Saudi Arabia, Russia, who isn't aiding and abetting war crimes? Bolded for emphasis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantustan
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Last Buffalo posted:If you don't know which positions the poster holds, maybe don't crawl up their rear end. Jesus loving christ you're a thick one arent you? KJU regularly posts long-winded and completely disconnected with reality effort posts making excuses for the ongoing genocide in Palestine and when he finally says something approaching the truth and gravity of their crimes you want to snipe at me for complimenting him? Do you pleasure yourself everytime a new Dry Bones comic comes out?
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Kim Jong Il posted:Nearly every country on Earth, including the Palestinian government, supports a two state solution and sees them as separate countries. So do independent polls of Palestinians. Holy poo poo, how dumb are you if you think a Bantustan is an independent and separate country? That's the exact opposite of the purpose of a Bantustan like Israel is creating in occupied territories.
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starkebn posted:Why can't Palestinians just have equal rights in a one state Israel? Because the Israeli government keeps trying to cleanse them from the face of the earth and giving them rights would be an impediment to that goal. Like all of a sudden if someone has equal protection under the law you cant just bulldoze their house and salt their farms to build your illegal settlements on the land their family has lived on for countless generations.
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qkkl posted:The only perfect form of government is one where every decision has support from 100% of the population. Majority rule can lead to atrocities and oppression just like other forms of government. Maybe instead of just focusing on the endgoal of a 'perfect government' we can just instead work on making fascist apartheid states less terrible and follow the road from there.
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Disinterested posted:Note it's an implication of that argument that not letting fascists get their way is inherently oppressive. Well you see the Palestinians are perfectly free to form their own state, govern themselves, create a life and community for themselves. And Israel is equally free to stop them. Freedom.
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qkkl posted:Israel is not depriving Palestinians the resources needed for physical survival. They are limiting them, yes, but not depriving them to the point that Palestinians are dying. You might want to double check that part
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hakimashou posted:Does HAMAS give people due process before executing them? HAMAS and the IDF sure are similarly awful organizations. Glad we can agree on that much. I wonder which of the two murders more people and is infinitely more successful at spreading misery.
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Lady Morgaga posted:. All criticism of Israel is antisemitism.
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