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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Humphreys posted:

This kinda stuff. I could read these stories for days.

Here you go: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/tag/history

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
There used to be a guy who posted old MS stories in YOSPOS, are you the same guy Keith?

The Kins posted:

EDIT: Beaten lol

That's what happens when you take the time to highlight some of the best content :)

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

drunk asian neighbor posted:

Remember Norton Change Disk?



2-pane navigation/file editing, mouse support...poo poo was glorious. My dad had it installed on every computer we had growing up, and I remember being really confused when I'd go on my friends/school computers and "ncd" would give me the good ol' "bad command or file name"

2-pane navigation still rules and Xplorer^2 is like the first program I re-install on every computer

VVVVVVVVV I think ncd was actually released with Norton Utilities originally, but IIRC NU and NC were pretty similar overall (I think NU was rolled into NC?)

That looks like some sort of lame windows application. Should really be using FAR:


http://www.farmanager.com/

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Yes to manage my server farm

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
My employer paid for WinRar. Tbh it handles archives way better than windows does and obviously supports more formats so I'm quite happy they did.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
^^^
Same

ColoradoCleric posted:

Well link us to something

http://www.farmanager.com/screenshots.php?l=en

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Makes sense because complete dead silence is rather unnatural and disconcerting, especially when they probably apply some sort of floor filter in order to reduce the bandwidth but ends up cutting out all of the natural noises you'd normally get like breathing, wind/movement and other background noises.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Police Automaton posted:

Blame the NTSC standard and the USA's AC being 60 Hz. It does not really have any bearing on how things are now and is basically a legacy thing.

Well, more FPS = better than, and it was a good target when you consider most consoles still struggled to hit 30.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Holy poo poo, I had this back in the day! Unfortunately it would always crash at some point through the game so I never finished it. I though it was pretty neat.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Weren't the "brown" complaints more of a mid-2000s thing though? While Quake was indeed very brown, from what I recall this mostly referred to slightly later games where everyone suddenly wanted to make them real and gritty by applying a ton of film grain and usually brown filters.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Original_Z posted:

Wasn't there some really odd controversy after 911 that "NYC" in Wingdings has characters that could be construed as related to the 911 attacks or some bizarre nonsense like that?
This is NYC:


And Q93NY, supposedly one of the flight numbers that didn't actually exist:

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
It was basically the wild west. Just like the real one, it was kind of lovely, objectively, but on the other hand everything was new and exciting as everyone was discovering stuff at the same time. Now everything is trivial to find thanks to google so there's no sense of satisfaction from finding something interesting, and all the sites are the same boring web2.0 reactive bullshit anyway.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

What about things like lpt1 or whatever though?

Also I am still confused as to why having a folder named con would affect the command prompt. Shouldn't it know if you are typing in a directory or if you are trying to do the text thing?
As to why this would be a problem specifically, consider this - you're in the root of the C: drive, in it, there's a file "readme.txt" and a folder "con". You type
copy readme.txt con
What does it do? There's no way for the system to know if you want to output this file to the console, or copy it to the folder with the same name. Exactly same problem with the other names.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
^^^
That's amazing, unsurprisingly I had no idea Quake arcade was a thing. I would've played them too, since my computer at the time couldn't really run Quake at anything approaching usable speeds. On the other hand, this was around the time when internet cafes were becoming a thing here, so maybe they just realized they had no future with those.

Not sure what version I tried it first, it was probably the normal 1.0 or whatever by that point.

EvilGenius posted:

I think the issue with this was that the college didn't have either application (it was a long time ago, my memory is hazy). Chainsaw spat out a .bat or an .exe file that stitched your files back together.
WinZip self-extracting archives :eng101:

I think that was support from a very early version, though TBH I'm not sure when split archives were implemented and whether it was possible to combine them.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Humphreys posted:

I woudl dearly love a new Android version of of the Nokia N97. Not the N97 mini either, the full size one with the D pad.



EDIT: hosed up image link.

Really wanted this one back in the day:



Despite some of the rough edges of WM at the time, it was a pretty drat powerful device and even had a 4 row keyboard, none of this 3-row bullshit.

For some reason (probably cost), I ended up getting an S730 instead:



It didn't have a touchscreen, but the full numpad on the top place was great for dialing, typing short messages and searching contacts or apps. Still, the lack of touchscreen definitely limited it and I never managed to get GPS to work, which wasn't officially supported but was present on the chip. A few cracks eventually developed in the top cover, but the sliding mechanism still works very smoothly to this day. The keys are pretty firm but easily distinguishable and allowed me to touch-type under the table during class or meetings.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
I'm pretty sure a lot of phones supported working as modems. But speaking of Motorola V-phones, I've had a V50 for a bit:



I got it a while after it came out so it was reasonably affordable, but I was still cool as a loving cucumber in school. It's still around somwhere and I should really dig it up and get a new battery for it for when I need a backup to use another sim card.

But the coolest one that nobody's had? That had to be the V70:

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Germstore posted:

well there's good javascript and then there's bad javascript

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
^^^
:argh:

Mortimer posted:

how is winrar guy doing

i assume he made a ton of money despite no one I know paying for it
All of our corporate images have WinRAR either pre-installed or available. Even if he charges just $1/user at these types of quantities, that's enough to retire in Russia or at least live very well for several years.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
It just doesn't have the helpful counter like WinZIP used to have :(

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
I definitely heard the difference between FLAC and 320kbps mp3. The mp3 wasn't worse, per se, but it did sound different enough that I could tell which one was which. Still, a decent quality mp3 is good enough for everything except super- :spergin: audiophools so whatever.

It's interesting that image compression stagnated so much, relatively speaking. There was jpeg2000... 16 years ago and even that isn't being used.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
The existing N64 emulators are perfectly fine for playing a match of Goldeneye or screwing around in Mario, you loving nerds.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
^^^
A lot of the videos I got from Kazaa were very, very nsfw, either intentionally or not

GutBomb posted:

It was the combination of the functionality of the BIOS being easily duplicated AND the fact that IBM allowed Microsoft to license DOS to them instead of selling them the rights to DOS. In allowing Microsoft to retain the rights to DOS this created the perfect storm in which manufacturers were able to build machines that were hardware AND software compatible. If DOS had been proprietary to IBM machines it would have been much harder to have the hardware clones be able to run the same software. Clone manufacturers would have had to reverse engineer DOS as well. If DOS had not been available for those clones the computing landscape may be very different and we might all be using Amiga or Apple derivative computers instead of (likely) something derived from that Compaq clone.

Edit: God dammit filthyimp.
It also might seen that IBM made a huge mistake that cost it billions from all the PC revenue, without all the clones it might never have taken off in the first place and died in a couple of years like a number of other personal computer systems around the time.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Casimir Radon posted:

If VR fails then I can get a headset for cheap later, and I doubt any of that porn is going anywhere.

Yeah that's my strategy, the were was just no compelling reason to drop a grand for a set but if people start dumping them for fractions of the price, I'd be all over it.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

WebDog posted:

Apple's stuff is pretty constrained in comparison.

And it certainly got a bit weird as they started using the brushed metal look for "pro" apps to match the plastic vs metal laptops styling of the time. It then looked so nice that it was adopted across the whole interface in Tiger.

Jobs got really in love with the leather on his Italian couches and insisted that it be applied to the calendar apps and subsequently other skeudomorphic elements like the felt in the Games app.

Ives pretty much hated the use of it and was quick to get rid of it when Jobs died.
Reminds me of this:

quote:

Tuesday, 7 September 2005, 9:30 AM Pacific

A Lexus SC 430 convertible speeds down a sunny street in Cupertino. The top is down. Brushed Metal is behind the wheel, stabbing at the buttons on his mobile phone.

We hear the connection ringing. BRUSHED METAL’s agent, MIKE, answers.


MIKE: B.M. Speak to me, baby.

BRUSHED METAL: Don’t bullshit me, MIKE. What’s going on?

MIKE: What do you mean?

BRUSHED METAL: What do you think I mean? The Special Event. It starts in 30 minutes and no one has called me yet. I’ve been calling Steve’s office all morning, they won’t take my calls. Are they yanking iTunes 5?

MIKE: Uh…

BRUSHED METAL: No? iTunes 5 is still on? Then why the gently caress am I not there?

MIKE: B.M., calm down.

BRUSHED METAL: Stop calling me “B.M.”

MIKE: They’ve gone with someone else for iTunes 5. I thought you knew.

BRUSHED METAL: You’re my agent. How the gently caress am I supposed to know if you don’t tell me?

MIKE: This is not a big deal, Brushed.

BRUSHED METAL: How can you say this is not a big deal? It’s loving iTunes! The most popular app in the world. It runs on Windows. Windows! Fuckfuckfuck!

MIKE: —

It's pretty long, the rest is here: http://daringfireball.net/2005/09/anthropomorphized

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
The real tragedy is that they don't make one with a modern trackpoint :(

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Powered Descent posted:

Linux users go in /home, at least by default.

We should change the default to /dev/null, instead.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Regular Nintendo posted:

This guy's visit to yospos is easily one of my favorite SA History type things

E: the templeos/losethos author not powered descent

Can you link the thread? That sounds like it'd be an amazing trainwreck :allears:

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

jojoinnit posted:

Wanted one of these so bad when I was a kid but it wouldn't make sense these days. Phones are powerful enough and I can travel with my Surface if I need an actual computer. Still craving one though.
I've also been itching to get a 5MX for years now, but the longer I wait the less sense it makes, as they're pretty much useless by now. Still, I love the form factor and for $200 would take a modern version over a lovely tablet any day of the week.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Star Man posted:

By the time I had a CD burner in 2002, the issue with bad discs and being unable to do anything seemed to be gone. I rarely had any issues with the CDs that I made.

I think I had the Yamaha CRW8424S which puts it at around the same time. It wasn't too bad, but I definitely had to be careful and not do anything stupid in parallel, and I've still made my fair share of coasters.

Powered Descent posted:

I still burn audio CDs to play in my 12 year old car. :dealwithit:
Same. Well not as of earlier of this month when I replaced the OEM CD player with an amp + bluetooth receiver.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

More like

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

The Big Word posted:

Outside of wayback machine is there anywhere I can flick through galleries of old web design?

Reminder that the Space Jam page is still available, mostly unchanged from 1996: https://www.warnerbros.com/archive/spacejam/movie/jam.htm

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

A Pinball Wizard posted:

There were no apps because every time they iterated windows mobile, they completely changed the API and the old apps wouldn't work anymore. Imagine if upgrading your iPhone meant all your apps stopped working and you had to wait for the maker to re-release it. MS did that three times.

Plus, there were a ton of apps for Windows Mobile, but nothing for Windows Phone because MS suddenly decided compatibility wasn't important, and we see how well that worked out.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
You can buy retired pc hardware super cheaply form my company but first they insisted on wiping the drive by a third party, understandably, and now thye remove them altogether. If the drive isn't removable (like in a Surface Pro), you're out of luck.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

barbecue at the folks posted:

Are shoutcast radios still A Thing? I recently went looking for Monkey Radio to find the original 24/7 chill study beats stream and it had been dead for a decade or so, lol. Luckily someone had made a Spotify playlist with most of the songs, which also tells just how much of even relatively obscure stuff is in Spotify these days.
Yep some old stations might be dead but it's my main music source at work when I just need to have some rock n roll blasting.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

KozmoNaut posted:

RIP

They were too beautiful for this world.

The term is dead but they're still around in the form of various convertible and 2-in-1s like this one



I have one and it's absolutely great for travel. It's not exactly a powerhouse but not almost useless like the netbooks, basically a 12" macbook for $300.

Gonz posted:

Bootstrapping

Kerberos

WYSIWYG

PSTN
Kerberos is definitely alive and well if you ever have to deal with AD authentication bullshit in enterprise land.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
And Excel though with mouse scrolling it's pretty much never needed

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Platystemon posted:

When the iPhone was first released, AT&T’s billing system was unprepared for the advent of unlimited data.

Every time the phone opened a connection, a new line item was generated for the bill. The price for all was $0.00, but AT&T dutifully printed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdULhkh6yeA

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2540432/mobile-wireless/iphone-owners-rail-at-at-t-for-wasting-paper-on-massive-bills.html
That's ridiculous, the iphone wasn't the first EDGE (or 3G, lol) phone by a long shot. How did they not run into this before?


The_Franz posted:

Yep. The whole reason for the seemingly arbitrary 160 character message length limit is because they just packed the SMS data into some unused space in the packets the phone was already receiving anyways.
The phone receives the data anyway, but the towers cost money to build and run so it's just one of ways to account for that.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

evobatman posted:

I'm not gonna miss every gadget being piano black and covered in fingerprints after three seconds of use.

I DO miss my Dell Studio XPS 13. It came out at the tail end of 2008 and was built with aluminum and leather trim, and there has never been a laptop like it before or after.

The first iteration was horribly unreliable. With Windows Vista and an Nvidia chipset with switching graphics in the small chassis it never stood a chance, and I went through 5-6 motherboards before Dell swapped it for a facelifted model for me.

The facelift ran perfectly, and I kept doing unsupported upgrades to it using parts from computers at work, until 2017 when I finally sold it. At that time it had the most powerful Core 2 Duo CPU you could fit the socket, Windows 10 Pro, 8GB DDR3, the fastest Intel SSD drive the chipset would accept, 4G modem and some upgraded Wifi card.


Good news, the HP Spectre Folio is a thing now:

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Vanagoon posted:

I took the 8GB DDR3 1333 from my old C2D E8400 PC and put it in this one, hence the 12GB.

Edit: Purchase history in eBay:

Nice.

I'm running an Optiplex 7010 with the i5-3470 as my main dev/gaming pc. For about $150 I got it with 8 gigs for RAM and a 128GB SSD too, added a GTX 1070 and it runs everything flawlessly for under $500 total.

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